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BobinCH wrote:
Wise man once said « man with loudest mouth has smallest brain »


"if you know it you do not speak it , if you speak it you do not know it" .......... old Zen proverb.
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Actually my wife corrected me. It was a wise woman… wink
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@BobinCH, sounds like she talks too much Very Happy
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@BobinCH, Confucius say: who care what bellend think when you ha'skiied full season?

@skimastaaah, excellent words of wisdom, pass them on to your doctor when he next gives you a diagnosis.
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@boobleblooble, I am a doctor. wink
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boobleblooble wrote:
@BobinCH, Confucius say: who care what bellend think when you ha'skiied full season?

@skimastaaah, excellent words of wisdom, pass them on to your doctor when he next gives you a diagnosis.


10/10 great trolling, you made yourself really quite unlikeable with the trumpy covid denying vibe, but taunting people about not skiing, next level!
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@boobleblooble,
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@BobinCH, Confucius say: who care what bellend think when you ha'skiied full season?

Thing is, he has also skied the whole season. You are the bellend here.
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@jimmer, ah yes no surer sign of an idiot than churning out the catchphrases: "covid-denier". Do you also refer to the NHS "being overwhelmed" and anything other than endless lockdowns as "letting the virus rip"? Don't forget: even though I think you and many others on here are tossers I'm arguing for you to be free to go skiing. I reckon that so many of are you desperate for the lockdowns and all the other hated controls that have wasted a season and a half of skiing to be worthwhile that you can't countenance the idea that it was all a waste. That's fair enough. But becoming wedded to an idea because it feels to late to go back is foolish and tacitly gives the government support to do it again. Have you even written to your MP? The local paper? Anything? If you've just sat and taken it then why would the government change their mind?

@Hurtle, oh aye and he skiied every day?
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I was going to ask the OP to delete the thread then realised that he too is a complete fud.....................
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It was a good, useful thread for a while but, as so often happens, a couple of trolls turned up and kicked it all into touch.
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The thread is as repetitive as the SCGB one but somewhat more amusing with all the vituperation being thrown around and a different cast of characters
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@countryman, How dare you use long words like vituperation. You obviously have a completely inflated opinion of yourself. And I bet you didn't ski every day last season.
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boobleblooble wrote:
@jimmer, ah yes no surer sign of an idiot than churning out the catchphrases: "covid-denier". Do you also refer to the NHS "being overwhelmed" and anything other than endless lockdowns as "letting the virus rip"? Don't forget: even though I think you and many others on here are tossers I'm arguing for you to be free to go skiing. I reckon that so many of are you desperate for the lockdowns and all the other hated controls that have wasted a season and a half of skiing to be worthwhile that you can't countenance the idea that it was all a waste. That's fair enough. But becoming wedded to an idea because it feels to late to go back is foolish and tacitly gives the government support to do it again. Have you even written to your MP? The local paper? Anything? If you've just sat and taken it then why would the government change their mind?

@Hurtle, oh aye and he skiied every day?


I think because you are believe in zero restrictions during a pandemic, you automatically assume that people who disagree with you must want the exact opposite, i.e. maximum lockdown permanently. Which is, of course, absolutely idiotic. You probably include me in that category, which is weird as I went on holiday to France last summer, have fully paid to go again in 6 weeks, have paid the deposit for 2 x ski trips in Jan/Feb 2022 and go to the pub regularly. I even, shock horror, shake people's hands. You may not realise it, but you are at the extreme end of the anti lock down curve and fail to understand that 95% of people are not at the opposite end of the curve to you.
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boobleblooble wrote:
@jimmer, ah yes no surer sign of an idiot than churning out the catchphrases: "covid-denier". Do you also refer to the NHS "being overwhelmed" and anything other than endless lockdowns as "letting the virus rip"? Don't forget: even though I think you and many others on here are tossers I'm arguing for you to be free to go skiing. I reckon that so many of are you desperate for the lockdowns and all the other hated controls that have wasted a season and a half of skiing to be worthwhile that you can't countenance the idea that it was all a waste. That's fair enough. But becoming wedded to an idea because it feels to late to go back is foolish and tacitly gives the government support to do it again. Have you even written to your MP? The local paper? Anything? If you've just sat and taken it then why would the government change their mind?

@Hurtle, oh aye and he skiied every day?


I am sorry for calling you a covid denier, is there a term you prefer? Selfish gammon?

As a resident of Japan, no I haven't written to any MPs, doesn't mean I can't find your posts hilarious though. Are you not trying to be funny?
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stanton wrote:
The EU Vaccine Passport will come into effect from July 1


That's the theory, what happens in reality is a different matter. For example Italy doesn't seem to respect the EU Vaccine passport and imposes a whole raft of additional requirements for EU nationals entering from the Schengen zone and those requirements remain in place at least until the 31st of July according to the Italian government website.

Switzerland you don't seem to need anything to enter as an EU national.

So it is all a bit random.
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@Timmycb5, oh dear. OK. I think that there should be a balance between basic individual freedoms and protection of the whole. Lockdowns and obligatory masks are not balanced. They have never been tried before in such a fashion and the point is that they were imposed. You list all the things you've done but have you done any of them when they were forbidden? I think you obeyed the rules and kept any breaches private instead of having the balls to state them publicly.

@jimmer, excellent: I bet you'd froth and rage if I compared anyone else's skin colour to food but if they're white it's OK? Ironic given the Japanese attitude to foreigners. I also note that Japan didn't have a full lockdown as their laws prevented it. Very nice of you to call others who hate lockdowns 'deniers' but not have to put up with one yourself.
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@Timmycb5, oh dear. OK. I think that there should be a balance between basic individual freedoms and protection of the whole. Lockdowns and obligatory masks are not balanced. They have never been tried before in such a fashion and the point is that they were imposed. You list all the things you've done but have you done any of them when they were forbidden? I think you obeyed the rules and kept any breaches private instead of having the balls to state them publicly.

@jimmer, excellent: I bet you'd froth and rage if I compared anyone else's skin colour to food but if they're white it's OK? Ironic given the Japanese attitude to foreigners. I also note that Japan didn't have a full lockdown as their laws prevented it. Very nice of you to call others who hate lockdowns 'deniers' but not have to put up with one yourself.


No, I haven't breached the rules, as I'm not a selfish prick. But neither have I cowered behind my sofa begging for more restrictions, and have welcomed each easing with delight.
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@Timmycb5, well said sir.
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@boobleblooble,
Are you outspoken on the internet because in the armed services you have to do what you are told?
Will you be skiing every day next season too?
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@BobinCH, Confucius say: who care what bellend think when you ha'skiied full season?


If you managed to ski a full season then why are you prattling on here about how awful the world is Puzzled
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@Timmycb5, are there any rules the government could have imposed on you which you would've disobeyed?

@DB, we're not in the armed forces: what's that got to do with it?

@BobinCH, because others have suffered and frequently died early from cancer and other diseases when they were forgotten or ignored in the rush to treat C19 patients.
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@boobleblooble, If you actually cared about cancer patients then you would broadly support lockdown measures. The last thing that someone on chemotherapy, with a greatly weakened immune system, wants is to catch Covid and the best way to achieve this is to not have Covid being widespread and the only realistic way to keep a lid on the pandemic has been lock downs. Without a lockdown diagnoses of cancer would likely be even lower as due to the high levels coronavirus at medical facilities people would have been even less likely to go to their GP, GPs and hospitals would be even less capable of coping, and people with a weakened immune system due to an undiagnosed cancer would be even more likely to catch Covid and die due to the higher levels of coronavirus in society.

Yes, coronavirus has been poo-poo for people at any stage of cancer treatment/diagnosis but it would almost certainly have been much worse were it not for the lock down measures
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@rambotion, why couldn't cancer patients stay at home? I think cancer treatment being cancelled is probably more lethal then C19 and not all cancer patients are immunocompromised.

You also make the assumption that lockdowns work which is dubious at best. I've heard your point about the system being even more badly crippled by C19 if there were no restrictions but if that's the case then why haven't Sweden and Japan fallen apart? Sweden had lower overall deaths last year than the EU average by some margin. They aren't lying about in mounds of dead in Japan either.

Show me proof that lockdowns work. Here's some that the fall in infections and imposition of lockdowns aren't linked: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/03/german-study-finds-lockdown-had-little-effect-virus-infections/amp/. In previous pandemics people kept away from one another and protected themselves and didn't need to be ordered to do so by the government.

Normally a medical intervention has to be robustly tested and trialled on small numbers before being introduced. Imposition is extremely difficult and legally fraught. Yet within the space of a few weeks the government imposed probably the most drastic social and medical intervention in history. Where was the research to support that decision? What argument was made for both positives and negatives?
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@boobleblooble, Cancer patients can largely stay at home but many/most don't live alone and without specific measures from the government most of their family members can't. As well as family members being a risk, if coronavirus is widespread it is even harder for hospital to not catch it and then pass it on to their patients

Japan has a much more effective track and trace system than the UK due to previous pandemic experience, a lot of lockdown, semi lock down, curfew, state of emergency and other measures and even with all of that in recent weeks its hospitals have been struggling

Sweden has a much higher death rate than its neighbours, it is helped by having far fewer multigenerational households than the UK allowing the old to easily voluntarily isolate, it hasn't had no lock down measures, and the Swedes appear to be particularly willing to follow non-mandatory advice

Whenever the UK implements a lock down cases fall shortly afterwards. To me, this is pretty good evidence that lock downs work. Some argue that this is due to some natural cycle but the best proof that lockdowns work is probably the dip in infections after lockdown measures were reintroduced in the second wave and then as soon as the measures were lifted in the run up to Christmas infections took off like a rocket. I don't like lockdown either, but I am yet to see any evidence that they are not effective in supressing the virus. Of course, as soon as they're released cases start to rise again and if there was no vaccine then you might conclude that there was no point as its simply kicking the can down the road. However, as lockdowns have bought us time while the vaccine is rolled out I find it hard to believe that these measures haven't saved a large number of lives
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@rambotion, would helping cancer patients to stay at home not be cheaper than shutting hundreds of thousands of businesses? It was managed for furlough etc so clearly not impossible.

How can you track an airborne disease in a crowded, industrialised country like Japan? All it takes is one person to get on the underground or overground train at a busy time of day and that's it. They didn't have a lockdown as I've said: their laws prevent it. Where's the struggle: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/?

I hear this a lot: why are you comparing Sweden to her immediate neighbours? As I've said before the C19 deaths were entirely average for the EU/Europe and the overall deaths lower than average. Their method clearly wasn't a disaster as was being insisted in the Press last year.

Actually no, cases began to fall before the lockdowns either started or could possibly have taken effect. This has been suggested to be caused by people voluntarily staying in as they perceive the situation to be worse. Would infections not have increased everywhere given that it was winter? The exact same thing happened across the world regardless of lockdown measures. Peru and Belgium had strict controls yet did terribly with deaths.
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@DB, we're not in the armed forces: what's that got to do with it?


Can't recall the exact wording but remember you saying you worked for the services, thought maybe you were a medic in the armed services or something.
Some ex-military personnel rebel against "the system" when they finish/drop out of service.

Take it you won't be doing a season next year as you didn't answer my second question.
I get your points although at the end of the day it's ultimately not the UK government that decides who can ski abroad but the local governments (e.g. France, Austria, Italy etc)

After Ischgl here in Austria people (including ski tourists) pursued legal action against the Authorities for not locking down earlier. Everyone has a degree in hindsight and whatever they do there will be criticism.
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Answer to the OP:

Not currently but things may change.
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@BobinCH, empty vessels make most sound?
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Away and boil your heid as they say around these parts.
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Is it too early for the “no snow yet thread?” Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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Is it too early for the “no snow yet thread?” Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


They're still skiing on last years snow in Avoriaz!
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Kaprun 3m base, Hintertux and the Möltaler glacier over 4m.
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OK, I get it... Razz Razz Razz
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This is what happens when zealots are brainwashed by anti-science rhetoric. I guess what I see in this thread is on the mild side of that.

https://twitter.com/StefSimanowitz/status/1404684367251791872
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@rob@rar, blimey.

I'd be swinging at the people up in his face.
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boobleblooble wrote:


@BobinCH, because others have suffered and frequently died early from cancer and other diseases when they were forgotten or ignored in the rush to treat C19 patients.


If you were in the Alps this season you are no doubt aware of the horror scenes, just over the border, in Northern Italian hospitals that woke everyone up to what can happen very quickly without covid restrictions.

As a skibum/trainee ski instructor, or whatever you are, what gives you such arrogance to preach to us all about what idiots we are for following Covid guidelines?

Were you one of the « freedom fighters » who refused to wear a mask on the ski lifts only for the liftie to stop the lift and the waiting lift line to abuse you into submission?

Did this leave some deep seated psychological wound you are still trying to heal?
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So. Anyway. Is next season in doubt? Very Happy
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So. Anyway. Is next season in doubt? Very Happy

Absolutely not. There will be plenty of Alpine holidays on offer and resorts will be operating. At worst, it'll be like Switzerland last season. Nationals won't have any problem skiing. The French will happily take Brits' money while regarding them with the same contempt that they reserve for Parisians. Cheap catered chalets will be a thing of the past. There will be a lot of confusion about what Covid boosters and Green Pass app you'll need for what country. There will be long queues at destination airport passport control. The loud Brit Covid Denier will become the next télécabine bore. Otherwise, back to normal.


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