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See look how down wiv da kidz I am with that up to the minute cultural reference.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Exit Planet Dust and Dig Your Own Hole were released in the last century. Funnily enough I assume that everything from the 90s onwards was 7 or 8 years ago, rather than 27 or 28 years ago.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@sixth_jackson, that's not how betting works. But no doubt you'll find an out of date weblink to try and "prove" your theory. Dream on sucker.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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See look how down wiv da kidz I am with that up to the minute cultural reference.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Exit Planet Dust and Dig Your Own Hole were released in the last century. Funnily enough I assume that everything from the 90s onwards was 7 or 8 years ago, rather than 27 or 28 years ago. |
Stone cold classics. Timeless.
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| @sixth_jackson, that's not how betting works. But no doubt you'll find an out of date weblink to try and "prove" your theory. Dream on sucker. |
------the joke------->
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It's dead simple, borders are open but you need a valid reason to visit Austria which cannot be "to ski" as from 15 Jan 2021.
Even the Germans can't get across the border to ski at the moment just as the Austrians couldn't get across the border into Germany when the shops were open in Germany but not in Austria. How someone believes they will be able to turn up at the Austrian border with a car packed full of ski stuff and expect to get in is beyond me. |
Yes, and as I have mentioned a few times, this is obviously subject to the rules changing post lockdown.
Time will prove one of us right. Until then, I suggest you worry about something else.
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What's up man are you bored and just want an argument or something?
I agreed it could change and said there was no point arguing for 20 pages earlier.
There's nothing to prove from my side, I've stated the facts to the best of my knowledge to help people here. We are not stating these things because we don't want people to come. If this goes on for years the Austrian economy will be knackered which will probably have long term serious effects on us too.
… but let's cut to the chase, here's my offer -
You pay to join up to snowheads now for 2021. If you make it to Saalbach in April 2021 and ski while the lifts are open I will pay your subs for 2022, if not you pay mine. Deal?
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| DB wrote: |
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| DB wrote: |
It's dead simple, borders are open but you need a valid reason to visit Austria which cannot be "to ski" as from 15 Jan 2021.
Even the Germans can't get across the border to ski at the moment just as the Austrians couldn't get across the border into Germany when the shops were open in Germany but not in Austria. How someone believes they will be able to turn up at the Austrian border with a car packed full of ski stuff and expect to get in is beyond me. |
Yes, and as I have mentioned a few times, this is obviously subject to the rules changing post lockdown.
Time will prove one of us right. Until then, I suggest you worry about something else.
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What's up man are you bored and just want an argument or something?
I agreed it could change and said there was no point arguing for 20 pages earlier.
There's nothing to prove from my side, I've stated the facts to the best of my knowledge to help people here. We are not stating these things because we don't want people to come. If this goes on for years the Austrian economy will be knackered which will probably have long term serious effects on us too.
… but let's cut to the chase, here's my offer -
You pay to join up to snowheads now for 2021. If you make it to Saalbach in April 2021 and ski while the lifts are open I will pay your subs for 2022, if not you pay mine. Deal? |
no offence, but there are other people i would prefer to ski with...
anyway, i'm glad we agree. have a good evening.
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no offence, but there are other people i would prefer to ski with...
anyway, i'm glad we agree. have a good evening. |
You don't have to ski with me, I have many friends in the Salzburg area who could confirm wether you were there or not.
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The facts are -
British citizens are seen as third country nationals in Austria.
From 15 th Jan 2020 you need a PTC (Pre travel clearance) - this has been implemented for a reason.
Tourists are not legally allowed to ski in Austria at the moment
Most ski resorts shut at easter, irrespectuve of snow conditions.
Easter Sunday falls on the 4th April this year.
.... and I'm not going to argue on the internet with a twit who doesn't know the difference between Saas Fee and Saalbach. |
For the final time... from https://www.bmeia.gv.at/
"People who are in regions that are subject to a travel warning due to the COVID-19 pandemic must continue to immediately enter a ten-day (home) quarantine when entering Austria. The early termination of the quarantine due to a negative PCR or antigen test is possible on the fifth day at the earliest (ie from the 5th day after entry)."
This is very simple stuff. See you in April <3 |
On the same website (click the FAQ link)
"When are third-country nationals outside the Schengen area allowed to re-enter Austria?
It is not yet possible to foresee when it will be possible for third-country nationals to enter Austria without a visa D or a residence permit. However, the regulation on entry to Austria in connection with the containment of the coronavirus (COVID-19) provides for some exceptions. You can find more detailed information about existing exceptions on the website of the responsible Federal Ministry for Social Affairs, Health, Care and Consumer Protection".
the Quarantine thing quoted above refers to Austrians travelling back in from "regions". I can't see the current ban on third country nationals being lifted by April. Even if it is relaxed it will be for a specific set of valid reasons, which "tourist's skiing" wont be one of them. Similarly France won't be letting the Brits back anytime soon. Switzerland might be a better but still extremely thin bet.
Saalbach has a new Gondola link to Saas Fee ski area. I'm sure I read that on a Zell am See thread.
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| t4tomo wrote: |
| Saalbach has a new Gondola link to Saas Fee ski area. I'm sure I read that on a Zell am See thread. |
Thats some Gondola, it's almost 700 km. 
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@DB, they're easily confused, aren't they?
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| @sixth_jackson, qpp's track record concerning what's happening in Austria regarding UK citizens has been very good. |
*is that really a saying, doesn't look right and doesn't make sense either, am I just another of those people saying stuff like "all intensive purposes" or "no pacific reason"? |
Errr... you might actually be the only one saying the above, as it's actually "all intents and purposes" and "no specific reason." 
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@Bergmeister, um... that was their point 
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You know it makes sense.
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| @DB, they're easily confused, aren't they? |
Yes and I have so many questions -
Is it heated and how long does it take?
Is there a baggage allowance?
What happens if you need to do a number 2 or a number 1 whens it's windy? (wear goggles?)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@DB, you know those little hatches in the bottom of gondolas, which are too small to fall out of, and about which everyone always asks why they're there? That's called the Number Two Hatch... but you do have to hover, as sitting on the cold floor is not a great idea.
How long does it take? About 200 years to build it, then a week to ride one-way in it.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| @sixth_jackson, enjoy your life of delusion. I'd bet good money that you won't be anywhere near here in April. Saalbach will be closed in early April anyway. |
Good point, well made. Well the area closes on 11.04 according to Bergfex at least.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| dode wrote: |
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See look how down wiv da kidz I am with that up to the minute cultural reference.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Exit Planet Dust and Dig Your Own Hole were released in the last century. Funnily enough I assume that everything from the 90s onwards was 7 or 8 years ago, rather than 27 or 28 years ago. |
Screamadelica is 30 years old this year - it's as dated as Bill Haley was when I was a kid. Time is a cruel mistress as we creep towards dust.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Am I the only one who had to Google " OK Boomer"?
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| NickYoung wrote: |
| Am I the only one who had to Google " OK Boomer"? |
Not at all.
I went from not knowing what it is to feeling proud (because Pam was proud to be one so it must be something good) to realising I'm too young.
As you can imagine it's been a real emotional roller coaster for me, I just wish some people would get their facts straight before insulting me.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Boomer
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| Saalbach has a new Gondola link to Saas Fee ski area. I'm sure I read that on a Zell am See thread. |
Thats some Gondola, it's almost 700 km. |
You mah have missed the albeit thin humour of 6jackson, originally getting confused by Saas Fee and Saalbach further up thread.
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@DB, I’m too young as well!
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| Saalbach has a new Gondola link to Saas Fee ski area. I'm sure I read that on a Zell am See thread. |
Thats some Gondola, it's almost 700 km. |
You mah have missed the albeit thin humour of 6jackson, originally getting confused by Saas Fee and Saalbach further up thread. |
Sorry I'm trying (very) but sometimes it's hard to sort out the humour from what people really believe.
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Saxony finishes the Alpine ski season 2020/21 before it starts. The ski lifts in the free state will no longer start their operation for winter tourism. This is what tourism minister Barbara Klepsch agreed with the operators of the ski lifts today.
′′ Our ski resorts in Saxony would currently have to start snowing their slopes in order to keep enough snow for the rest of the season. The current corona situation in Saxony is still very serious. We have therefore agreed with heavy hearts to end the alpine winter season for tourism. With this, we want to give the lift operators planning security so that they avoid unnecessary costs," says Minister of Tourism Klepsch.
i ️ According to the current Saxon corona protection regulation, the operation of ski lifts is prohibited. The ski lift operators shared the view that even after this period the ongoing infection situation does not allow for appropriate relaxation.
➡ Minister Klepsch will soon again communicate with the ski lift operators on how to offset the revenue shortages of the ski lift operators. In addition, we are considering how to strengthen local all-year tourism. |
I am sure there will be more decisions like this one all across Europe.
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Today the Austrian government are discussing extending the lockdown. The German government already talking about extending until Easter. The fears are that the British virus mutation is already spreading.
With that in mind the ski areas are discussing closing at the end of the semester holidays in late February as they do not envisage many day trippers after this date.
So this will of course mean that Saalbach is closed in April and the borders will also remain closed.
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@queenie pretty please, calling it the British virus is as unhelpful as calling it China virus
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We have had our booking moved from March 20 to jan 1 21 then again to March 21 and now it’s still live for mid April for Grand Massif. Feeling increasingly downbeat about the possibility of us getting out there tho. Considering moving to an alternative country as think France is unlikely. Flights booked into Geneva as well
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@SnoodlesMcFlude, British virus mutation is how it is being described by the press, sorry. A better description would be the more contagious virus mutation first discovered in the UK.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| @SnoodlesMcFlude, British virus mutation is how it is being described by the press, sorry. A better description would be the more contagious virus mutation first discovered in the UK. |
Makes sense. In my mind it doesn't seem right for the media to be attributing nationalities to the virus, which is exactly what I thought a year ago when Trump was doing it. I know historically it's been done as with Spanish Flu, but just seems a good way to further divide people.
But I could just be being and overly sensitive snowflake.
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| While it's unlikely that the “Spanish Flu” originated in Spain, scientists are still unsure of its source. France, China and Britain have all been suggested as the potential birthplace of the virus, as has the United States, where the first known case was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11, 1918. |
https://www.history.com/news/why-was-it-called-the-spanish-flu
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| SnoodlesMcFlude wrote: |
| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| @SnoodlesMcFlude, British virus mutation is how it is being described by the press, sorry. A better description would be the more contagious virus mutation first discovered in the UK. |
Makes sense. In my mind it doesn't seem right for the media to be attributing nationalities to the virus, which is exactly what I thought a year ago when Trump was doing it. I know historically it's been done as with Spanish Flu, but just seems a good way to further divide people.
But I could just be being and overly sensitive snowflake. |
I think our objection to it - on grounds of science if nothing else - will sadly however be by the by. If media in various EU countries describe it as the English or British variant there is all the more reason for local leaders to place more restrictions on UK visitors because a bit of populist pandering never did any poitical career any harm. I think our case rate probably will do for us anyway effectively but even if that were trending dramatically lower there would still be the UK X factor.
I can't say we wouldn't do the same in reverse - say there was a French variant identified - our tabloids would be all over the opportunity to lead on "Hop off back home froggies" or "NON - No Overseas Nasties".
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With the UK currently having over 600 cases per 100,000 population, compared to France's less than 200 cases per 100,000, I believe that most of Europe is going to seriously restrict UK travellers entering EU countries for some considerable time. Pinning one's hopes on a quick vaccine fix is wishful.
Calling the UK variant as "plague anglaise" is not boding well either.
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The head of the Genome sequencing team in the UK was on the radio this morning.
He said they started looking for the variant that is now the so-called British variant....but only after having been asked to do so by one of "our European neighbours" which had spotted something going on in their country. My money would be on Germany where in December the rates just kept going up while the restrictions got tighter and tighter.
They asked to UK to look for it because the UK does nearly 50% of all the CV sequencing in the world!
10% of all positive tests get sequenced in the UK.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| I can't say we wouldn't do the same in reverse - say there was a French variant identified - our tabloids would be all over the opportunity to lead on "Hop off back home froggies" or "NON - No Overseas Nasties". |
Oh they absolutely would, but our tabloids are also undeniably ****s.
Doesn't help our case for going skiing this season though 
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The head of the Genome sequencing team in the UK was on the radio this morning.
He said they started looking for the variant that is now the so-called British variant....but only after having been asked to do so by one of "our European neighbours" which had spotted something going on in their country. My money would be on Germany where in December the rates just kept going up while the restrictions got tighter and tighter.
They asked to UK to look for it because the UK does nearly 50% of all the CV sequencing in the world!
10% of all positive tests get sequenced in the UK. |
Yes agreed - calling the UK variant as "plague anglaise" seems particularly unfair due to this. One comment at the time the new variant was identified mentioned that a lot of countries have little or no sequencing, so the likelihood was the UK was always likely to identify it first no matter where it originated.
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With the UK currently having over 600 cases per 100,000 population, compared to France's less than 200 cases per 100,000, I believe that most of Europe is going to seriously restrict UK travellers entering EU countries for some considerable time. Pinning one's hopes on a quick vaccine fix is wishful.
Calling the UK variant as "plague anglaise" is not boding well either. |
Yes very wishful. Even if the UK manages to vaccinate all the vulnerable (big if I know) to a point where hospital pressures ease and we can start to ease restrictions in the UK (because even if those under 60 haven't been vaccinated, those likely to die or get seriously ill will have been vaccinated). However, it feels like France* are behind the curve in their vaccination programme, so if their vulnerable still aren't fully vaccinated, then we still won't be able to travel there (without a vaccination certificate, which only the older and more vulnerable will have).
*other skiing countries are available.
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With the UK currently having over 600 cases per 100,000 population, compared to France's less than 200 cases per 100,000, I believe that most of Europe is going to seriously restrict UK travellers entering EU countries for some considerable time. Pinning one's hopes on a quick vaccine fix is wishful.
Calling the UK variant as "plague anglaise" is not boding well either. |
Seems highly likely that case rates in EU and elsewhere will pick up, given that the new variant is more infectious and even the original variant couldn't be contained.
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Saalbach has a new Gondola link to Saas Fee ski area.
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On looking out of my window earlier, I noticed that the Schattberg Xpress gondola had been closed due to high winds. Can anyone direct me to this new gondola, in case the weather is better in Saas Fee?
In other news, a British neighbour of ours drove down a few days ago, via the Chunnel (apparently breezed his way through, even though he only has a holiday home here in Saalbach). Our elderly Austrian neighbour nearly had a fit! Convinced he’s imported the British variant - negative test certificate or not.
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Saalbach has a new Gondola link to Saas Fee ski area.
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On looking out of my window earlier, I noticed that the Schattberg Xpress gondola had been closed due to high winds. Can anyone direct me to this new gondola, in case the weather is better in Saas Fee? |
It is a joke, read the previous couple of pages to get the context.
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