@Riccardo, One of the reasons I post a variety of approaches on this thread, is we all understand/learn skiing differently, so one Instructor may make more sense to us, than another.
Personally, I like trying to understand how Inclination, Toppling and Angulation (knee and hip) interrelate to each other in modern skiing. It's a topic that I find very interesting.....and probably key to becoming a more expert skier.
It is also interesting to see what other people post, in case it brings something new to the table.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
@Old Fartbag, Absolutely, it's a great thread.
I guess the conclusion I've come to as an intermidiot, is that while there are plenty of ways to skin this particular cat, it is better for me to use method A or B or C rather than take a little from A and a little from B etc and end up looking like a dog's dinner.
Very happy to see klaus is still posting vids. I remember his early SofaSkiSchool vids.
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
I find this a very interesting Blog by Paul Lorenz on the subject of Angulation vs Inclination.
As I understand it, he seems to suggest that we underestimate the role of Inclination....and Angulation is important, but more as an adjustment to align the body to oppose the forces created through Centripetal force.....so depends on speed. While too much angulation hinders the ability to topple inwards, it's still a crucial movement within the turn....but maybe to a lesser extent than conventional wisdom.
"The racers of the past, while using straighter and longer skis, predominantly used knee and hip angulation in order to produce edging in the turn. Modern technique executed on the shorter skis with a larger side-cut dictates the different mechanics of edging – inclination."
I'm always cautious about the potential benefits of skiing on one ski. It's something that the Swiss ski clubs seem to use as part of their youth race training and while it may be useful in that context I'm not convinced it's a good idea for us mere mortals to aspire to.
Why? Because it requires a very different body position, movement and feel from what we're normally trying to achieve. If you've not mastered high-speed two-ski carving then anything this exercise can do will not help with that, so it may actually hinder progression, introducing as it does some new movements that can't/shouldn't be applied in normal skiing.
So why do racers do it? For them it's an important skill, as they will often find themselves recovering from 'wrong' positions and they need to be able to control things in very different circumstances. And of course they _have_ mastered high-speed two-ski carving, so can build on it without the risk of screwing it up.
YMMV; I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but exercise caution and don't expect it to be a magic bullet to better carving
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
@Chaletbeauroc, Good point - and one that is highlighted in the Video. It said that this is not something to do, if you are not already comfortable with carving.
I simply put up Videos that I find interesting and potentially useful. I liked this one, as it "eased into" the skill with 4 steps, by preparing you first with easier drills.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
Bootfitting: This series of 33 "Bootorials", give a great overview of the basics (covering most issues you are likely to face), thus enabling a much better understanding of what makes a good fitting Boot, how it should feel and how to get an idea of your own physiology. Click on link to see all 33 video clips:
basically anything that doesn't teach the right technique. So a stupid exercise for a beginner may be a valid exercise for an expert because the expert is able to hold the right body position when, say, carving on the inside ski whereas the beginner will struggle and will compensate with bad positions. Or alternatively the expert will understand that the exercise doesn't necessarily teach good style/position - your point about racers getting out of position and needing to recover.
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After all it is free
Interesting talk by Tom Gellie about how best to maximize your skis to your advantage - and feeling what is happening through your feet:
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The video below by Tom Gellie starts off by repeating content talked about above - but for me, where it starts to get interesting, is around 33 minutes, talking about getting forward. After that, it gets really interesting when he talks about the The What, The Why and The How of Toppling....and touches on Angulation and Inclination.
As an interested amateur, I am fascinated by how to achieve big edge angles and getting the hip close to the snow. For me, it is like a 3 legged stool. The first leg is "Toppling"; the second leg is Flexing to transition (gets very early edge pressure/angle) and the third leg is Speed (which generates the forces to balance the big edge angles against). I personally think that understanding and implementing these modern principles, is the key to becoming a more expert skier On Piste.
On a similar theme - here is an analysis of a very experienced skier who is stuck and looking to improve.
When I first saw the clip of him skiing, my immediate thought was his very wide stance isn't helping. My second thought was that he was too aggressively pressing against the snow at the end of the turn.
The video highlights the problems that are often associated with too wide a stance - especially as it relates to him. As someone who learned in the 70s, too wide a stance is one of the very few problems I haven't suffered with....if anything, probably the opposite.
The boot drill he shows at 3:10 I tried out last Saturday at Chill Factore, and i could definitely an impact in my turns as a result I thought.
I skied for 1 week nearly 3 years ago - so will need something to remove the cobwebs. Feeling what is going on through your feet on an easy slope seems sensible.
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