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New video from Faction with Sam Anthamatten leading a couple of Verbier based pros and the Faction Marketing manager on the Haute Route, with some spicy side peaks thrown in.


http://youtube.com/v/GPi_JbWC5Qs
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Excellent video. Given that it connects the two areas I ski in the most I would love to do that. Unfortunately I think it is beyond my ability at present and, given that I am 60, it is likely to remain so. Nevertheless one can dream.
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Drone footage has transformed these films in recent years. Fantastic.
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JohnMo wrote:
Excellent video. Given that it connects the two areas I ski in the most I would love to do that. Unfortunately I think it is beyond my ability at present and, given that I am 60, it is likely to remain so. Nevertheless one can dream.


If you have decent stamina, some ski touring experience, and can ski confidently in variable snow (hard and icy in the morning, slushy at end of day) it should be feasible. The up is much more challenging than the down - which is relatively short and usually well tracked in season. It’s approx 1000m of up per day over 4 -5 hours.
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MHskier wrote:
Drone footage has transformed these films in recent years. Fantastic.


Agree the drone footage is superb! We are doing it in April in the opposite direction so need to get practicing with the Mavic Air!
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Great video - only thing that I didn't like was that it was only 16 minutes long!
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Strong choice of Lange Freetours and Cast for running around above 3000m on a multi day tour.

Really nicely shot. Quality of Faction's movies recently has been v. high.
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What were those bindings where the toe piece was swapped out @ 11:40. CAST?

Shower thought : Is wiping your bum with banana peel really that effective?
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DB wrote:
What were those bindings where the toe piece was swapped out @ 11:40. CAST?

Shower thought : Is wiping your bum with banana peel really that effective?


Yep Cast - they were one of the sponsors
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Thanks

First thought was heavy but I suppose the same as the old Fritschi freerides and only a bit more than shifts.

https://mcfrisk.kapsi.fi/skiing/posts/CAST_Freetour_touring_binding_review.html
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@DB, Yes. That's 3kg a foot in boot and bindings before you even consider skis. Punchy.

I cannot comment on the banana peel thing. Guess it's better than the map.
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Strong choice of Lange Freetours and Cast for running around above 3000m on a multi day tour.

Really nicely shot. Quality of Faction's movies recently has been v. high.


Anna was on shifts with Dalbello Lupos,

Yann was on casts as well with Dalbello Carbons

Elizabeth was on MTN pure bindings and Fischer Ranger boots

So no one was really on a pure touring set-up.

I was actually wondering after watching what is better shifts or casts (I understand the casts are just 100g more now)there seems to be a lot of talk of shifts on snowheads not so much on casts - is it just access and availability to them? The casts have a big roster of pro athletes.
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I was actually wondering after watching what is better shifts or casts (I understand the casts are just 100g more now)there seems to be a lot of talk of shifts on snowheads not so much on casts - is it just access and availability to them? The casts have a big roster of pro athletes.


Hard to get in Europe. I could really see the advantage of shifts as they combined the functionality of a pin binding with the release characteristics of an alpine binding. That made a lot of sense. Cast is heavier and I don't need to be on P15s or P18s as I am just not a good enough skier to justify the additional cost or weight. I ski slowly and don't jump off things. Well, not exactly slowly but a lot slower than anyone sponsored by Faction.
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Yes for mere mortals I can't see the big advantage of CAST bindings over shifts. For those in the know - which way round does the banana skin go anyway?
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BobinCH wrote:
JohnMo wrote:
Excellent video. Given that it connects the two areas I ski in the most I would love to do that. Unfortunately I think it is beyond my ability at present and, given that I am 60, it is likely to remain so. Nevertheless one can dream.


If you have decent stamina, some ski touring experience, and can ski confidently in variable snow (hard and icy in the morning, slushy at end of day) it should be feasible. The up is much more challenging than the down - which is relatively short and usually well tracked in season. It’s approx 1000m of up per day over 4 -5 hours.


Thanks for the reply. That is encouraging. I am pretty fit (probably very fit for my age). My stamina is also good. I have not done multi day ski tours (but intend to) but I do multi day (usually 4-5 consecutive days) cycle rides in the summer doing up to 100 miles per day and climbing over 5,000 feet per day. I have only been ski touring for 6 years but do several days each year. It definitely is my favourite part of skiing. I can get round all ski terrain I have come across - although I would probably lose points for style in some of the trickier areas.

2021 is not going to be the year I do it but I want to keep Zermatt-Verbier on my target list. Thanks for the encouragement.
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@JohnMo,

Sounds like you would be fit enough. I looked at doing it this year but COVID killed that. There look to be many variations and the guide advised us to start midweek to be out of sync with the crowds while skiing and at the huts.

It would be great to have a snowheads "Haute Route" bash.


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extremerob wrote:
Great video - only thing that I didn't like was that it was only 16 minutes long!


Loads more on YouTube ...


http://youtube.com/v/rBGVgWquVZc


http://youtube.com/v/C5fw0P_0XQM


http://youtube.com/v/pU-LiDvNP-Y


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JohnMo wrote:
BobinCH wrote:
JohnMo wrote:
Excellent video. Given that it connects the two areas I ski in the most I would love to do that. Unfortunately I think it is beyond my ability at present and, given that I am 60, it is likely to remain so. Nevertheless one can dream.


If you have decent stamina, some ski touring experience, and can ski confidently in variable snow (hard and icy in the morning, slushy at end of day) it should be feasible. The up is much more challenging than the down - which is relatively short and usually well tracked in season. It’s approx 1000m of up per day over 4 -5 hours.


Thanks for the reply. That is encouraging. I am pretty fit (probably very fit for my age). My stamina is also good. I have not done multi day ski tours (but intend to) but I do multi day (usually 4-5 consecutive days) cycle rides in the summer doing up to 100 miles per day and climbing over 5,000 feet per day. I have only been ski touring for 6 years but do several days each year. It definitely is my favourite part of skiing. I can get round all ski terrain I have come across - although I would probably lose points for style in some of the trickier areas.

2021 is not going to be the year I do it but I want to keep Zermatt-Verbier on my target list. Thanks for the encouragement.


You easily have the fitness if you can climb 5000ft in a day on a bike. IMO do it in direction Verbier to Zermatt. That way you leave the best day until last.

Good point above about avoiding the classic Cham to Zermatt Sunday so Saturday schedule if you can. When I booked the huts the Vignettes hut was already full for the Friday night on one of the April weeks


We are doing Weds 28th April to Saturday 1st May - 2 groups guided, one self-guided. Let’s hope COVID and the weather play ball!
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It would be great to have a snowheads "Haute Route" bash.


+1!
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I watched this yesterday just after it premiered. Would love to get in to this sort of stuff, just need try touring full stop first! On the bucket list to get to!
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clarky999 wrote:
DB wrote:

It would be great to have a snowheads "Haute Route" bash.


+1!


Not that hard to organize. Flights to GVA, transfer bus to Argentiere(6 day)/Train to Verbier (4 day). Book guide via SH reco/Cham guides office. Book huts online. Train back from Zermatt. Main challenge is finding a similar standard group but SH probably as good as anywhere for that
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I do multi day (usually 4-5 consecutive days) cycle rides in the summer doing up to 100 miles per day and climbing over 5,000 feet per day. I have only been ski touring for 6 years but do several days each year. It definitely is my favourite part of skiing. I can get round all ski terrain I have come across - although I would probably lose points for style in some of the trickier areas.
I would say that you would manage it no bother. However, if you have not done a multi-day hut to hut tour, I'd say you couldn't go wrong with four or five days in the Silvretta area of Austria as a starter.

Great touring - but nothing too radical in terms of terrain; fantastic scenery; and lovely, comfortable huts - some with hot showers.

A fair few companies organise the tour too.
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@JohnMo, I haven’t done the whole HR but I have done bits of it around Arolla (my first ever hut to hut tour). The organiser of that trip was about 67. The skiing on the vid is not representative of the classic HR. It’s mostly pretty mellow. The huts are however the most crowded I have experienced (admitted I’ve never climbed Mt Blanc at peak season...)
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I would say that you would manage it no bother. However, if you have not done a multi-day hut to hut tour, I'd say you couldn't go wrong with four or five days in the Silvretta area of Austria as a starter.

Great touring - but nothing too radical in terms of terrain; fantastic scenery; and lovely, comfortable huts - some with hot showers.

A fair few companies organise the tour too.


Yes my first hut-to-hut ski tour was in the silvrettas, a great introduction to multi-day ski touring as the terrain and huts are not too high.
COVID allowing I'be be back there again in March 2021.

Would be good to do Piz Buin.


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Arno wrote:
@JohnMo, I haven’t done the whole HR but I have done bits of it around Arolla (my first ever hut to hut tour). The organiser of that trip was about 67. The skiing on the vid is not representative of the classic HR. It’s mostly pretty mellow. The huts are however the most crowded I have experienced (admitted I’ve never climbed Mt Blanc at peak season...)


Yep the classic route is mainly mellow skiing but looks like from the vid that there are some spicy options to explore (that SE ridge of Mont Blanc de Cheilon looked pretty cool). Huts only operating at half capacity this year so should make for a more chilled experience, but need booking early as suspect it will be a popular touring season.
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People, do not forget there are various Haute routes. Silvretta has been mentioned.
West Oberland is lovely as it is very quiet Les diablerets across to Kandersteg.
Haute route Soleil is another gem from Fiesch into Italy and across to Andermatt, the weather can be difficult however!
There are others as well.
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@BobinCH, it's a very long time ago that I did it but the normal ski route up Mt Blanc de Cheilon is very nice. It's a great peak
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There is also the Urner Haute Route - Engelberg to Andrermatt


http://youtube.com/v/4qazD6znOcg
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Would be good to do Piz Buin.


Piz Buin is great. Also the Weisbadener Hutte is really nice. Suggest hanging out for a couple of nights and doing the Dreilanderspitze as well if you have not already been up.
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Thought I would throw this in here - Sam Anthamattan talking about his gear set-up

( he does not use a ski finder avalanche rescue - maybe Joe Axelrad should sponsor him NehNeh )


http://youtube.com/v/vdroNWzMl0I
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