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France returns to lockdown

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@Weathercam, from our own point of view, especially in the summer, there is more open in the valley when the French kids are on holiday. Come in mid-September and things are starting to close, although it has got better in recent years.
I wouldn't choose to come in February holidays though. Christmas and New Year is different as we can maximise our time there without using up all of our holidays, an extra 3 days is our travelling time taken care of.
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Summer we tend to go for “busy” periods as there is more going on. Winter either Christmas (less often NY as it’s v busy), off peak Jan or Feb or mid March. Never French vacances scolaires.

I suppose I could have said @Hells Bells +1!
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But not exactly a lot of "animations" happening this time round Laughing

That said as I was skiing (XC) yesterday to from Monetier saw that they were getting that magic carpet ready.

In the Summer we go back to the UK in August as it's just not fun, especially cycling on the road!
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@Tristero, france is actually more.... imagine what they could do if they did a bit of work Toofy Grin

Although thinking about it, uk may overtake France again as it’s probably about two to three months ahead with vaccinations etc....
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Claude B wrote:
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Hi Claude..Just checking your ok in your 4th holiday home in your French Chateau.Not had any insults off you in a while.


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@saintnickle, what's a Chateua?
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@saintnickle, do you like travelling ?
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Now that you've corrected your spelling how about the grammar! It's you're not your, just the first one in case that is too confusing.

I was kind of relying on you to come back and make a dick of yourself without my help, never in doubt really.
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@Claude B, Laughing
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Sorry old chap.Didn't manage to get to public school and uni.Mind my grammar.
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@saintnickle, Don't forget to leave a space after a full stop old chap!
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@esaw1, absolutely. Even I, as a secondary modern girl who left school at 16, know that
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Many of us learnt Grammar in junior school. Very Happy Very Happy

Most of the younger generation not helped by predictive text, that always questions which one you mean to use, prompting many to correct to the wrong option.

Although in the case of some trolls, I think "General Ignorance" takes precedence. Toofy Grin
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@saintnickle, Oh, and we don't generally use a double full stop.
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Many of us learnt Grammar in junior school

I don't know how old you are, @brianatab, but I'm 74 and I didn't learn a lot of grammar either at junior school or Grammar school! And presumably you are not familiar with the current English curriculum for kids in primary school - it's full of the kind of grammar most of us were never taught. You would be expected to recognise a fronted adverbial, a relative pronoun and a modal verb , if you were 10..... And to know EXACTLY when an apostophe was needed!
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@pam w, Took 11+ '71-'72.

Had to google relative pronoun. rolling eyes Been using them for years without knowing what they were called. Very Happy

Being a stickler for the use of the apostrophe, I'm very pleased that it is a compulsory element of the Curriculum. Far too many people haven't got a clue how to use one.
( I recall seeing a news article a few years ago when someone made a point of anonymously correcting shop signs.- Went to great lengths to ensure the colours/font etc. matched.)
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@pam w, I think in your day - almost my day - they assumed you would learn your grammar from the compulsory Latin.

Latin wasn't very good on apostrophes though.
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Been using them for years without knowing what they were called

Precisely. So have I. I learnt good grammar by reading and hearing good grammar.

I never learnt Latin, @j b - chose German instead, which came in very useful. Plenty of grammar there, but it's not much help with English grammar being able to recite a list of German prepositions which take the accusative or the dative. (O level 1963) I struggle now with the subjunctive in French and Italian but had been using it correctly in English for years before I'd ever heard of it. "If I were a rich man....."
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To be fair I learned almost no grammar in English lessons, nor in Latin to age 13. While I don't know the official description of grammatical terms I learned a lot of real life usage through French evening classes.

Oh..and split infinitive from Star Trek reruns
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French people learn grammar. I have a Francophone Belgian friend who told me about having detentions at school - and having to write out endless lists of declensions of irregular verbs. When I spent a week at a French language school in the Alps I was in a class with a couple of Italians. The teacher would say to me, before embarking on a grammatical explanation of something like direct and indirect pronouns "You just ignore this and take my word for it - the Italians will know what I'm talking about".
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Been using them for years without knowing what they were called

Precisely. So have I. I learnt good grammar by reading and hearing good grammar.

I never learnt Latin, @j b - chose German instead, which came in very useful. Plenty of grammar there, but it's not much help with English grammar being able to recite a list of German prepositions which take the accusative or the dative. (O level 1963) I struggle now with the subjunctive in French and Italian but had been using it correctly in English for years before I'd ever heard of it. "If I were a rich man....."


You've just got to revise your past continuous now Pam and you'll be good to go
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and any of this "grammar" have the slightest relevance to France's current lockdown?
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@skimastaaah, ah...Good point well-made
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@skimastaaah, ah...Good point well-made


https://www.gouvernement.fr/en/coronavirus-covid-19

thank you ...
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Your telling me their's a lockdown in France? Laughing
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Your telling me their's a lockdown in France? Laughing
My. Eyes. Please. Don't. Do. That.

Back on subject, still no lockdown. If more of us can avoid flouting the rules then France might even just about get away with that wave. Quite unbelievably since I keep on hearing about ski trips over the border (not just day trips, proper overnight stays), or people being fed up with the curfew and wearing masks, and hosting dinners (let alone rave parties).

But I guess the season's gone.
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Your telling me their's a lockdown in France? Laughing


You mean ..... "You're telling me there's a lockdown in France?" ...? Toofy Grin
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@patrick!, I think they will relax the curfew soon, evenings are getting noticeably brighter now at 6pm. Another 6-7 weeks before the clocks go forward....so I just think people will be tempted to stay out longer, and there will be political pressure to open shops etc until at least 8pm.

Just a thought......and many small towns seem to have activity past 6pm, eg take-aways are allowed, so I haven’t seen any evidence of strict policing. I like the French govs current policy of encouraging people to just be responsible
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The gendarmes drive around town here just after 6 daily. Less need for people to be out after curfew than in bigger cities.
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Well looking at my local barometers (parking areas) I would have said it's not as busy as last week, and as ever I'm totally wrong Laughing

Friends said maybe quieter as it's the SW off this week but Grenoble and Lyon off as well so they will head this way as well but they have other options in the NW Alps.

I parked up this morning opting to XC as snow-pack is so dire for touring, though did look like more snow at altitude but just could not be arsed to ski the crud from around 1,900m down and conditions for XC were great.

I'm not too sure if this should really be in the Cross Country thread, but it is really about what it's like in resort during "lock-down" etc.

As I arrived at circa 09:30 it was again not too busy, but the XC control, a hut where you show your pass and or buy a ticket had around 20 people and as I went out on the cross country piste so there were many people out and about, I'd guess 70% learning (and most doing classic) and many an ESF instructor.

Half an hour later I skied into Monetier and that was busy, so many people out on XC gear, quite breathtaking, and the control up there must have had 40 or so waiting, normally one or two.

My neighbour is an ESF XC instructor based up there and she's been working every day but for the holidays they've obviously taken on a load more instructors. Many a group of little kids with "Biarritz" Ski Club on or something like that.

I carried on for another half hour or so and on my return leg as I came back to the more mainstream areas it was such an eye-opener to see so many people out on XC, it was also quite nerve-wracking at times as I'm used to the pistes being really empty and with so many beginners resulted in people suddenly falling in front of you and it's not that easy on XC skis to manoeuvre out of the way quickly!

Even with the lifts closed it hasn't stopped the French travelling to the mountains for their holiday, and I think I've mentioned before, I wonder, travel restrictions allowing, how many Brits would bother to holiday and take up XC this year too?

There were so many families out there with kids of all ages, I just don't think the Brits have the same psyche, as most kids in Britain (massive overstatement I know) are glued to their phones/tablets etc

I suppose the real test will be to see how many people are out tomorrow doing it, or will the novelty / hard graft factor put them off.

Should also add many a FatBike out and loads of people out walking enjoying the fine weather after the last couple of days which were probably the foulest days of the year so far.

You would not have guessed that there's a pandemic going on!

And my friend who was due out yesterday had a positive PCR test so will not be seeing him for a good couple of weeks or more now!

So interesting to hear what other French resorts are like, and Italy opening their lifts Feb 15th I hear?
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Not that busy here tbh. I went out on the snowshoes and there were a few people about on the easier bits, snowshoes, touring skis, boards, etc. I had lunch on a picnic bench below the resort with a couple on touring skis with a guide and a couple of others on snowshoes. By chance we were talking about Claviere, etc opening. They reckon the border guards at Montgenevre aren't bothered about tests, etc.

Probably more people about on the other side. Stade open for clubs training and the blue piste from 2100m groomed for anyone skinning up.
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Claude B wrote:
By chance we were talking about Claviere, etc opening. They reckon the border guards at Montgenevre aren't bothered about tests, etc.


Maybe we can send Gavin up on his bike to check up ? Happy. I'm not planning on going to Italy before May so hope things have opened up a bit by then with the arrival of early summer.
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Claude B wrote:
By chance we were talking about Claviere, etc opening. They reckon the border guards at Montgenevre aren't bothered about tests, etc.


Maybe we can send Gavin up on his bike to check up ? Happy. I'm not planning on going to Italy before May so hope things have opened up a bit by then with the arrival of early summer.


Good idea Very Happy I'd be up for a couple of days skiing in Sestriere tbh. Midweek after the french hols. The woman I was talking to said you can cross country ski from Montgenevre to Claviere now anyway Laughing I'll ask some of the Italians here what the crack is.
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France might be in lockdown, but was reading earlier that Madrid (open with lighter curfew, and Covid restrictions) is full of French tourists.

What's the point of having a lockdown of all your bars/restaurants, with all the economic fall out, but allowing your citizens to travel "abroad", with no restrictions on return? rolling eyes

Cue yet another extended lockdown in France? Puzzled
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Claude B wrote:
The woman I was talking to said you can cross country ski from Montgenevre to Claviere now anyway Laughing I'll ask some of the Italians here what the crack is.


I thought there was a test case in the courts last week where it was decided that the French border wasn't closed to skiers?
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Has anyone been skiing the trees just above Claviere? That is one of my favourite areas (or 2 areas) for tree skiing. Or is it crud in there?
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davidof wrote:
Claude B wrote:
The woman I was talking to said you can cross country ski from Montgenevre to Claviere now anyway Laughing I'll ask some of the Italians here what the crack is.


I thought there was a test case in the courts last week where it was decided that the French border wasn't closed to skiers?


ahh the case is more complex than I thought

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bourgogne-franche-comte/jura/haut-jura/controles-aux-frontieres-les-skis-alpins-au-pied-a-la-dole-entre-france-et-suisse-le-scenario-ubuesque-se-dessine-1942366.html
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Absolutely. I don't think I'd bother for a couple of days skiing if testing is required.
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Absolutely. I don't think I'd bother for a couple of days skiing if testing is required.


It seems people in Serre Chevalier can ski over the border without a PCR.
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