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Scotland snow reports 2020/21

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@snowball, if you're staying at Ballachulish, you're only a few minutes drive from the chairlift at Glencoe ski centre which will get you within 15 minutes of skinnable snow. If you don't want to ski the resort's runs, you can head up to Meall a Bhuiridh's summit and look along the ridge line that links the mountain to Creise where you should see some lovely skiable terrain.

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Tom,Dick&Harry gullies
Classic Gaellic names I see?? wink

Sounds very appealing geoffers

A few Qs for you...

- Where's the parking spot?
- How long is the hike in?
- Are the gullies of reasonable gradient (ie not extreme)?
- Are the gullies named on the map? (How can I find them?)
- Sounds as though the snow finishes at the car - or is it a hike out too?
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Tom,Dick&Harry gullies
Classic Gaellic names I see?? wink

Sounds very appealing geoffers

A few Qs for you...


- Where's the parking spot? near Auchlean
- How long is the hike in? depending on snow limit - a couple of km
- Are the gullies of reasonable gradient (ie not extreme)? easy - not extreme
- Are the gullies named on the map? (How can I find them?) N.facing streams off Meall Dubhag (Coire Gorm)
- Sounds as though the snow finishes at the car - or is it a hike out too? no - it's a hike out too

Times we've been up there driving north (ie viewing the S. facing slopes) you start thinking "blimey - why have I come all this way" as there's no snow visible on the S. elevations. However once you get up top it can look like near full snow cover facing south & viewing the N facing slopes Toofy Grin



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Thanks for the suggestion.@geoffers.

@moffatross, surely the access lift is most likely to be closed at Glencoe(?) Yes, of course, I'd go there and ski the pistes - the access slope looks less of a climb than some, if the lifts are shut. I've not skied the off-piste there but happy to try.

I know a few Cairngorm descents (Diagonal gully, Alladins) and the back of Aonach More (on its East side - I have only heard of the gullies to the West (Rush etc) recently on buying the off-piste book). That Carn Mor Dearg slope looked fabulous but all that Nevis area is intimidatingly far to walk, assuming the access lift is closed. I should say I don't have especially light touring gear.
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@snowball, Glencoe Ski Resort's access chairlift is open (COVID and weather permitting) all spring and summer.
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@snowball Looks like the Nevis Range gondola is due to open 28 April
https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/plan-your-visit/opening-hours/

Check out this video of skiing CMD

http://youtube.com/v/z-8j-BtPbwQ
I reckon they got the gondola up then walked on path S.W;
then dropped down into Allt Daim; sidestepping at 0:28 I think you can see the gondola/cafe mid left in the saddle, so that's the Goose hidden behind the ridgeline behind the skier;
then where they're skinning with harscheisen at 0:45 is on the shoulder of Carn Beag Dearg looking NW at Fort Bill; after that plodding up the ridge with the Ben on the right.


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Oh well, if the two access lifts will be open then that transforms things. I am surprised the Abacus guides didn't mention this. Does the normal back skiing at Aonach More still have enough snow to ski?
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@geoffers, @mountainaddict, on Monday last week (12 Apr) the snow was down to c550m in those TDC gullies. They had fresh ski tracks in them, I suspect from the previous day. I doubt there will have been substantial retreat of the consolidated snowline since then.

Photo from last week (although not terribly useful for illustrating the gullies)

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Great stuff geoffers and Inboard
- thanks very much Very Happy
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I reckon they got the gondola up then walked on path ... etc
Looks like my route guesstimate was correct... Very Happy
http://www.steepscotland.info/Carn_Mor_Dearg/
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@geoffers, heading right from the gondola, is it clear when you reach the edge where to go down?
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@snowball, not done the route myself, but looks like they're leaving the path to descend at 10secs in
The OS 1:25,000 shows a path zig-zag-ing in a NW. direction (NN 17973 75458) just before the viewpoint (Meall Beag) so I guess you drop 50m or so then contour round under the cliffs to cross the Allt Daim
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think this is the greenlight I need for a trip, just got to work out is anywhere hiring touring gear for my wife? I've emailed Ellis Brigham yesterday but no reply, also emailed Braemar Mountain Sports

Anyone seen anything concrete from any ski areas about an access lift or two opening?

Probably going to head to Aviemore area as appears to be plenty of snow easily accessible from the car park, unless Nevis open the gondola or Glencoe the access chair??

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-update-first-ministers-statement-20-april-2021/

tourist accommodation can re-open from Monday

Finally – but very importantly – I can confirm that all remaining travel restrictions will be lifted on 26 April for travel anywhere in Scotland, and for travel between Scotland, England and Wales.
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Glencoe Access Chair (at least) will open on Monday along with the temporary cafe. Hotels can reopen for tourism stays also.

Nevis Gondola will reopen on Wednesday 28th April.
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...very importantly – I can confirm that all remaining travel restrictions will be lifted on 26 April for travel anywhere in Scotland, and for travel between Scotland, England and Wales
Fantastic news! Very Happy

Jeeves! Start the engine!!
(Well on 30.4.21, which is the earliest date we can go. Just need the weather to play post-lockdown ball now... wink)
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Well fingers crossed this will be the uk skiing headline: ‘Scotland ski season restarts’.
Better late than never. Also looks as though temps are going to drop again from the 26th with the possibility of some light snow into May, which would be helpful.
Some keen skiers might yet be able to salvage some lift served skiing this year Cool .
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May turns would be awesome

7 month season for me then Smile
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I'm looking at heading up on the Monday depending on how it's all looking. Probably Fort William but tempting to look at a day on Cairngorms.
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Just do not come via Luton airport as Luton is still well above average for covid infection rates.
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May turns would be awesome

7 month season for me then Smile

Mike - I think you might like the look of these Toofy Grin , posted on Tuesday
https://m.facebook.com/hamish.frost/posts/pcb.4637252919627647
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Glencoe's website says The Access Chairlift, Base Station cafe and Accommodation reopen on the 26th April. Summer tubing on the 1st May and Bike tracks the 15th May.

Nevis says Nevis Range will reopen on Wednesday 28th April.

I guess not enough snow/punters to run the top T bar??
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Mike Pow wrote:
May turns would be awesome

7 month season for me then Smile

Mike - I think you might like the look of these Toofy Grin , posted on Tuesday
https://m.facebook.com/hamish.frost/posts/pcb.4637252919627647


Magic

Thanks
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Glencoe have announced that they are only opening the main access chair for touring and walking https://www.facebook.com/GlencoeMountain
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I guess not enough snow/punters to run the top T bar??

Glencoe say the main slope does not offer an unbroken run and the snow is too soft to use the piste basher to rectify it.
Has there been any word about the off piste snow at either? Has the back (east) side of Aonach More (Nevis) got enough snow to ski it without hitting rocks?
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kitenski wrote:
I guess not enough snow/punters to run the top T bar??

Glencoe say the main slope does not offer an unbroken run and the snow is too soft to use the piste basher to rectify it.
Has there been any word about the off piste snow at either? Has the back (east) side of Aonach More (Nevis) got enough snow to ski it without hitting rocks?


Though there isn't a route back to the tows, there is a continuous line from the summit to 2/3rds of the way down the mid-mountain on the Wall, so still over 1000ft of vertical can be had for the leg work at Glencoe. There will certainly still be routes off the back of Aonach Mor, but while skiing the runs on the ski area at Glencoe take you back down closer to the top of the Access Chair, dropping into the Back Corries leaves quite a lengthy traversing hike out over pretty rough and steep terrain, then a more gentle walk back along the fence lines to the front of the mountain.

On Cairn Gorm might still possible to get to around 1400ft of vertical - but unsure if the Traverse has been dug out by the funicular contractors.
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looks like my plans are coming together, Wed night in Stirling so can hit East or West on the Thursday, then a day course with https://www.british-backcountry.co.uk/ on the Friday!

Anyone recommend a place to stay in Aviemore and a good pub/restaurant for an evening meal please?

Cheers,

Greg
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Cairn Gorm's Head Wall/ Coronation Wall could be fun, if it has enough snow, at the correct moment between ice and slush!


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I'm losing track with what's open and what's not rolling eyes ...Assuming both accommodation and restaurants are open:
- There's a new Premier Inn in Aviemore. Prices can be very hit & miss for Premier Inn though - sometimes very cheap, sometimes quite expensive.The Indian restaurant near the Premier Inn is very good.

Further afield (20 mls south) The Highlander Hotel in Newtonmore is usually very good value at around £50 B&B for a double room. Good bar meals along the road at the Balavil Hotel.

Otherwise, loads of B&Bs in Aviemore.
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Braeriach - Garbh Choire Mór yesterday (Friday) still holding plenty of snow. Navigating cornices still the biggest issue restricting ease of choice of lines.

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The view over towards Aonach Beag and Aonach Mòr from the Grey Corries on Wednesday giving an idea of the snow.

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did I mention we've had some pretty good weather recently....
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@snowball, it was a lot of fun. Grippy hero spring snow at its best snowHead

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kitenski wrote:
looks like my plans are coming together, Wed night in Stirling so can hit East or West on the Thursday, then a day course with https://www.british-backcountry.co.uk/ on the Friday!

Anyone recommend a place to stay in Aviemore and a good pub/restaurant for an evening meal please?

Cheers,

Greg


The go-to answer for food is the old bridge Inn. But you'll have to book. The cairngorm Hotel does good non-fancy food at a reasonable price, and usually has a decent amount of space in the beer garden. The winking owl is popular, although I'm not very keen on it personally.
The Doo below is a good pub when it's a pub, not sure what its going to do under current restrictions.
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@mountainaddict, accommodation and restaurants are allowed to open from Monday.

Also might be worth mentioning: the hills - and especially car parks - are very busy at the moment. Today the West Highlands were the busiest I've seen in 10 years of walking in Scotland. And it's only April Shocked

Some of the popular walking (& skiing) car parks are already full by 7am at weekends at the moment. I'm not sure exactly which car parks you'll be aiming for (e.g. Glencoe ski centre should be better as the car park is big and the walks not massively popular), but beware...
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Thanks for the info re accommodation and restaurants and the tip offs re. busyness and parking denfinella. We found similar re parking at The Lake District last weekend - though the trails weren't too bad...

Think we'll be looking at lift-assisted ski touring - Glencoe and/or Nevis beckon Very Happy .

Having said that, does anyone know if the Ptarmigan area and Ciste Gully at Cairngorm still have snow?
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@mountainaddict, the ski centre car parks should be fine.

Yes - the Ptarmigan and Ciste Gully still have snow. Also Coire Cas and areas "over the back". There's also still snow on the green traverse piste which gets you up to the Ptarmigan restaurant, but apparently they're going to start clearing it this week to allow vehicle access to the top station. (For staff, not the public!)

Graeme Pringle (a.k.a. Windy Miller) on Facebook is the man to follow - he skis there almost every day (even over lockdown - he's local), takes lots of photos and gives condition reports. You'll need a Facebook account.

https://facebook.com/windy.miller.54
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The car parks near me have been getting very full. Double parking, inconsiderate parking, and campervans overnighting. Likely due to the weather and the release of restrictions. Not much snow here so it is probably people walking up hills, or alongside lochs.
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Perhaps I should warn anyone thinking of self-catering cottages etc that two households cannot mix yet and they are enforcing this by getting people letting property to collect track and trace info from people. Considering hotels and restaurants (even indoors, with 1 metre social distancing for mixed households) this seems a bit bizarre. We were caught out by this and our friends have now had to hire their own separate cottage rather expensively nearby.
Indoor for restaurants only till 8pm and with no alchohol


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@charlie.wilkinson, with your photo of Aonach More (Nevis Range) back, am I correctly identifying the areas?
A pity we can't see how far down the snow goes. ie. is it possible to ski from the others back to the main bowl?



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@snowball, that looks like you've got them right. Sorry I didn't get any closer Toofy Grin

This is from a bit further away and shows the bottom of the snowline a bit better



Some photo from British Backcountry (not mine) on Facebook from yesterday with that have some closer shots.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10157466980647820&set=pcb.4651704724849133
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