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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@stanton, downgraded??
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@alan1974 please don’t quote him as lots of people (inc me!) have him on ignore but we still see quoted posts!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Skimum1, Amen..... 
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@wnhall, they flew into Rome.
My wife was chatting to them some more and it turns out that, whilst the results came back speedily, they had to wait 2hrs to be tested. Which may have a bearing on any pre-booked airport transfers to your final destination. Though I’m guessing that Rome would have higher passenger numbers to organise for testing and the programme is still in the ‘teething problem’ stage, so hopefully wait times will be shorter in the future and shorter still at smaller airports.
We were discussing it the other night and wondered what the policy would be for one positive test. Everyone within Xno. of seats or Yno. of metres also told to quarantine? The whole flight? And with Innsbruck airport often used for getting to Italian ski areas, will the buses get stopped at the border to be tested? Will it be done at Innsbruck?
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The place you really wouldn't want to be right now is the Netherlands. Almost 50% more cases per 100k than the UK. I can't imagine the Dutch will be doing any skiing this winter. Landgraaf will be very crowded.
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@dode, "We were discussing it the other night and wondered what the policy would be for one positive test. Everyone within Xno. of seats or Yno. of metres also told to quarantine? The whole flight?"
That looks to be a serious issue they may not be able to mitigate. Isn't that fundamentally a problem with track and trace too? In that in a fairly densely occupied area it would very quickly amount to all the people being advised to isolate, irrespective of their personal covid status. Certainly it's unclear how it could be logically handled.
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| snowdave wrote: |
| The place you really wouldn't want to be right now is the Netherlands. Almost 50% more cases per 100k than the UK. I can't imagine the Dutch will be doing any skiing this winter. Landgraaf will be very crowded. |
Jeeessss just read up on that after you posted that!
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Wow, they're really getting stuck into the herd immunity route aren't they.
Numbers should be down by Christmas and they can get on with normality 
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@Weathercam, yup, it looks pretty awful.
NL is also in a worse position than the UK in that (to my knowledge) it has no natural skiing at all, so is totally dependent on other countries allowing its population to enter. At least we have Scotland, and a few opportunities in Northern England as well as Welsh touring.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| dode wrote: |
@wnhall, they flew into Rome.
My wife was chatting to them some more and it turns out that, whilst the results came back speedily, they had to wait 2hrs to be tested. Which may have a bearing on any pre-booked airport transfers to your final destination. Though I’m guessing that Rome would have higher passenger numbers to organise for testing and the programme is still in the ‘teething problem’ stage, so hopefully wait times will be shorter in the future and shorter still at smaller airports.
We were discussing it the other night and wondered what the policy would be for one positive test. Everyone within Xno. of seats or Yno. of metres also told to quarantine? The whole flight? And with Innsbruck airport often used for getting to Italian ski areas, will the buses get stopped at the border to be tested? Will it be done at Innsbruck? |
Ahh thanks
Yea I think the testing thing is a great idea .......Maybe more sensible for US to be insisting on it before you board....as Crazy an idea as that may seem
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An interesting development I've noticed in some recent TO adverts (not skiing) is for them to advertise 'Full Travel Insurance Cover' as part of the package. Presumably eliminating all the uncertainty over EHIC and Covid exclusions on conventional travel insurance. If they did this for ski packages as well, then at a stroke, the TOs would neutralise the threat from DIY holidays, at least in terms of health and cancellation cover, if not arrival/return quarantines.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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You have to quarantine for 2 weeks on return .... maybe that's what the 12th was about
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Snowsartre, look on the travel to austria thread. clarky999 has posted about it.
@wnhall, no - quarantine on return has been in place since August
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Every country has idiots . there is a reason that the Netherlands are in the mess they are in and it isn't because everyone is following all guidelines
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Currently booked for Switzerland in Feb, but I'm clinging onto the hope that there won't be the 10 day entry quarantine, followed by a 14 day one on getting back to the UK. Most of the costs can be recovered if its a no-go, but I'll need to decide by mid-Dec. I've even taken to investigating routes home through Germany by car if France remains 'on the naughty step', but that's assuming Switzerland gets off it.
Looking at alternative countries, Sweden / Finland is looking promising (this week), especially with Sweden's 'relaxed' way of dealing with virus (so far). But, I'd rather not write off the costs of the MagicPass (even if it was dirt cheap), and remain optimistic that all the EU countries (in conjunction with their strange, belligerent neighbour - yes, GB) can find a viable way to ensure that this winter's season (and beyond) can be 'saved', and with it the potential future of the resorts that we are accustomed to visiting. 2 very bad years due to COVID restrictions, could be the end of some.
As I should be, I will remain 'glass half full' and deal with what happens when the time comes around. Having lost 2 months of work to the virus, I'm not quite as gung ho as some, but also not living in fear of it. Fingers crossed.
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As long as BA keeps it's head above the water I'm OK! They've already rescheduled my Gatwick flights to Heathrow
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Media reports that Italy is about to join the list of countries that will require a quarantine when you return to the UK.
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My BA flight Turin has changed location and times multiple times now
due to fly on the 30th now
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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My 'Weardale Ski Club' 2020/21 Season Lift Pass has arrived and all that is now required is for a good dump of Snow on the Pennine Hills. No Flights, Trains or B&B... Just a 3 hour drive up there, get a day of Skiing in and then be home again by 8 pm on the same day. 
http://www.skiweardale.com/
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I suspect the UK is a bigger risk of closure than Italy is .....
looks like we will be in lockdown within the next 3 weeks given the numbers
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You know it makes sense.
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Indeed, idiots are ubiquitous.
We cancelled our Christmas skiing plans back in September (had booked for the entire extended family to come together), and have now moved our Jan trip to end of March, by which time hopefully quick tests will be widely available and a decent proportion of vulnerable people will have been vaccinated.
So cautiously optimistic for some late season skiing.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| snowdave wrote: |
@Weathercam, yup, it looks pretty awful.
NL is also in a worse position than the UK in that (to my knowledge) it has no natural skiing at all, so is totally dependent on other countries allowing its population to enter. At least we have Scotland, and a few opportunities in Northern England as well as Welsh touring. |
And why do you think you'll be allowed into Scotland, Wales, or Northern England?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Italy has just been put on the Quarantine list
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just had an email from Ski Famille cancelling our holiday from 30th Jan.
Gutted.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@FIRSTOFTHEGIANTS, 
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Balance wasn’t due until end of November so seems weird. And why refer to “start of our season”?! Insurance issue?
“I am writing to you regarding the ski holiday you have kindly booked with us for the week of 30th January 2021.
Unfortunately, due to the current constraints the UK and France are experiencing with the increases in Covid-19 cases, we are left with no choice but to cancel the start of our ski season.
We would therefore wish to offer you one of two options:
You may transfer your booking to the same week next season (21/22) and as a gesture, we would be pleased to offer your 21/22 ski holiday at no extra cost. We simply roll over your deposit and you settle the balance next year.
If however, you would prefer to start again for next season with our new prices, we will of course return your deposits in full.“
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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In reference to the OP.
We are looking very much like the answer will be 'No'
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@FIRSTOFTHEGIANTS, It's what the chalet company we were due to work for did, cancelled everything booked for this season so they didn't have to pay rent for chalets and pay staff with no guests. They have to commit now, or not operate, and I know which I would choose.
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My advice to anybody going anywhere is pay with your credit card. Credit card insurance works very well. They also callback money if somebody took payment and did not deliver service or goods.
As a consumer, you are much better protected when buying things on a credit card.
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@RobinS, makes sense. They have the opportunity of people rolling forward to next season, so bank that money. Don’t book the chalets now. Then if they can operate at the time, book the chalets last minute for lower rates. One of the pitfalls of everyone doing “full refundable deposits”.
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@FIRSTOFTHEGIANTS, Fully refundable deposits is not a sustainable business model, only the desperate would offer that.
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Indeed. Although it was “up to 10 weeks in advance” so I assumed they would wait until then. But it now makes sense with the booking of chalets an staff. Obvious really.
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FAQ
Looks like St Anton on 11 December is back on 
