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stanton wrote: |
All you Covidiots on this Forum
It is unbelievable.
Folks planning Travels
Seriously Take a good Hard look at Youselves..
You are the Problem!!
I hope there is a meccanism to impose a minimum €5000 fines.
Pleaese.
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Complete wet pants. Some of us have (essential) work that involves international travel. And are not hysterical
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Alan1974, oh please don’t quote him..... I have him on ignore for a reason
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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NickyJ wrote: |
@Alan1974, oh please don’t quote him..... I have him on ignore for a reason |
Sorry, agreed
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@Alan1974, thanks.
I somebody else did same while I was typing that. @Dravot, pretty please no quoting him.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Alan1974, @NickyJ, Its very simple. Tick 1. Tick 2.
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Stanton, are you just scared; or, involved in big pharma , Bill G, Event 201 etc etc.
Big pharma do not want herd immunity. ££££££££
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I’m going to the mountains. it’s good for mental health
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Happy skiing everyone xx
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Friends flew into Italy today. Their option was: a valid negative test result, which they didn’t have, or to take a (free) test in the airport. They sat in the bar for the 15mins it took to get the results back.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Big pharma do not want herd immunity.
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@susieski, what sort of complete idiocy is that? Don’t worry, you’ll be force vaccinated by the chemtrails.
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@BoardieK, I think it would be illuminaing to compare the UK testing numbers quoted on WMs with the actual numbers of results achieved in reality .
Some days ago Hancock crowed about circa 250k tests, but as usual that included those “in the post” and antibody tests so the actual number of “tests” as usually considered in media parlance was about 85k ...
Anyway, what does a PCR test tell you?
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You know it makes sense.
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Big pharma do not want herd immunity.
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@susieski, what sort of complete idiocy is that? Don’t worry, you’ll be force vaccinated by the chemtrails. |
Big pharma want this all over with so they can go back to selling expensive drugs. There will be no money in this for the vaccine makers and it is having a huge effect on their own R&D as everyone is focused on COVID. The anti vaccers are just those who historically would have been put in lunatic asylums, sadly as they are now all shut they roam the streets.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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dode wrote: |
Friends flew into Italy today. Their option was: a valid negative test result, which they didn’t have, or to take a (free) test in the airport. They sat in the bar for the 15mins it took to get the results back. |
I have heard of this elsewhere - wonder what happens if the 15 min test (accuracy level unclear afaik) is positive?
Back on the plane and home?
That would be a right pita and also involve track and trace of the other passengers presumably?
You would have thought that a Europe wide pre boarding test would be better - its not like you dont have time at an airport ahead of the boardign call.
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Poster: A snowHead
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No - there’s the problem.
They cannot put a positive passenger back into a plane.
The positive person (who may well be totally asymptomatic) will be put into quarantine and if media reports are to go by, unable to leave until two consecutive negative tests. There are a few stories of Brits stuck there for weeks, stuck in quarantine.
Didn’t sound so appealing when I read those.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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It does make a lot more sense to test everyone at point of departure rather than point of arrival. Would require joined up international thinking though.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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dode wrote: |
It does make a lot more sense to test everyone at point of departure rather than point of arrival. Would require joined up international thinking though. |
Bit of an odd one, eh?
Although we are leaving the club I would have expected something on this front from the EU countries at least.
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Skimum1 wrote: |
No - there’s the problem.
They cannot put a positive passenger back into a plane.
The positive person (who may well be totally asymptomatic) will be put into quarantine and if media reports are to go by, unable to leave until two consecutive negative tests. There are a few stories of Brits stuck there for weeks, stuck in quarantine.
Didn’t sound so appealing when I read those. |
Yep if you get a positive be scared in Italy....
Coronavirus: Pembrokeshire man 'stuck' in Italian facility
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54188163
Covid: UK teens held in Sicily hotel for more than three weeks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-54465313
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Skimum1, that's not quite the problem.
+ve PCR test doesn't actually tell you very much absent C-19-like symptoms ... does it?
E.g. I have had it, I have antibodies, but could quite easily have been in contact with someone infectious such that I have viral RNA particles up my nose without actually becoming infected to any large or infectious degree (making a not unreasonable presumption than anti-b's confer at least some immunity for at least some time).
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Back to the subject of skiing next season.....
I've booked my normal trips - couple of weekends and a week for New Year and Half Term(all in PdS). Driving for the weeks and flying for the weekends in the hope the situation will improve. I've booked them all in a way to minimise loss if its not possible to go. I think I am at risk for about £100 if they are all impossible. Was happy to risk that over the position of a winter planning to do nothing and the risk of paying inflated prices if things do improve.
There is a risk to walking down my local high street, personally I think being out on the slopes is lower than this. Would self-cater so reduce interations in resort and happy to cook in over restaurants if that seems the sensible option. Wouldn't make much of a difference for the family weeks but the qualit of self-catering on my mates weekend could be amusing!
In reality I think its unlikely to happen. I wouldn't take my kids if they had to miss school on return due to quarantine.
Thats plan A.
As a result of the situation I've been made redundant and haven't found a new job yet. If that situation persists I would be the only member of my family who could quarentine without problem so I am really tempted by a couple of weeks in January on my own. Drive down and stay alone should see less interations with people than staying at home!
A strange year, thats for sure! I just hope we don't all end up missing out on a great snow year if thats what happens!!
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I just hope we don't all end up missing out on a great snow year if thats what happens!!
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Mate broke his leg and missed a season. The snow was fantastic.
He came back after recovering.
Covid is just like that. Miss a season for whatever reason. It’s not the end of world like some make it sound.
If you don’t mind the risk, go ski. If you don’t want to risk it, don’t. It’s just 1 season, a blip in time. There will be many more seasons to come.
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@abc, I’m 66 mate, not got that many blips left! If they let us in we’ve booked Belle Plagne in January
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@rdsweb, I’m in the same decade as you. Somehow I don’t feel the need to rush.
Out on the slopes, I’ve met many in their 70’s skiing very well. So I have in my mind to ski into my 80’s. That’s quite a few blips.
Also, I do get in at least 20 days, some season as many as 50 days. So missing one season just doesn’t feel like a big loss. I can easily make it up by skiing more days the next season.
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[quote="pdsguy"]
Sounds like a good plan, also have new found freedom, and hoping to take full advantage and head out pds/outskirts for more trips. Agree, on balance, it looks doubtful right now, but who knows? Keep options open, and be prepared to bail without losing too much. Will aim to drive for all trips though, as this provides more flexibility in my view, which might be preferable under the circumstances. Also, consider Scotland for quieter mid-week if conditions there are good. If it does work out, I think the slopes will definitely be a bit quieter this year, all round.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@abc, So you're okay then! Now, back to us mere mortals and skiing for the British.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@esaw1, beat me to it, thanks
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@esaw1, on the other hand, there will be no opera, no Broadway, which I miss a lot more than skiing. And I wouldn’t even get to choose to risk it or not (not that I want to risk indoors with all the sinful)! So the Covid disruptions are significant for me, another mere mortal.
Skiing is just one of many such disruption, and way down the list in priorities.
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You know it makes sense.
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A while ago we did a tour of all the Utah resorts.
We kept meeting up with "the over 80's ski club"
Made friends with Doris, she must be over 90 now.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I think Austria have now no requirement for a test certificate and no need to quarantine upon arrival !
I just tooK the below info fro Austria.info.
“Open Borders - Safe Countries“
Travellers from the following "safe countries" do not need to show a negative COVID-19 test or commit to quarantine: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Cyprus, Czech Republic (except Prague), Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France (except Île-de-France (Paris), Provence-Alpes-Cote d’Azur), Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal (except Lisbon and Norte), San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, the Canary Islands, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Uruguay, Vatican City.
Don’t know how long that will last for?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Snowsartre,
I’m getting really confused here. The other forum appears to be quoting the Austrian Embassy in Washington, USA (Austria.org)
The Austrian was Embassy in London (bmeia.gv.at) is still showing as no test required unless you have visited another high risk country in the last ten days. Our a Foreign Office site is also giving the same info.
Very confusing
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Eggfried wrote: |
@Snowsartre,
I’m getting really confused here. The other forum appears to be quoting the Austrian Embassy in Washington, USA (Austria.org)
The Austrian was Embassy in London (bmeia.gv.at) is still showing as no test required unless you have visited another high risk country in the last ten days. Our a Foreign Office site is also giving the same info.
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I am still waiting on confirmation, but I am very unsure that that (the www.ris.bka.gv.at) site is being interpreted correctly... Will update when I can find out more.
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Alastair Pink wrote: |
clarky999 wrote: |
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pardon my ignorance, the whole situation has me bamboozled
I've booked a hotel for Austria in January and have free cancellation until the end of November, do I need to quarantine in Austria? or does a negative test exempt me from quarantining? |
At the moment you only need to quarantine upon your return to the UK (not in Austria). However the situation is more likely to change before January than to remain the same. |
please see part 2 https://www.austria.org/current-travel-information, even more confused now |
Not really confusing, you just need to read all the bits that make clear that that's the US Embassy site applicable for US citizens
This is the main Austrian Tourism Board site: https://www.austria.info/en/service-and-facts/coronavirus-information/entry-regulations
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Entry Requirements for UK Residents
UK residents can freely enter Austria, without the need for a medical certificate or self-quarantine. This only applies if you have not been to any countries considered a COVID-19 risk area in the past 10 days.
The UK government currently advises against all but essential travel to Austria. When you return from Austria to the UK, you will need to quarantine for 14 days.
All travellers arriving in the UK need to provide their journey and contact details to the UK government (online and in advance). Learn more here. |
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Looks like Austria changed its requirements for arrivals from the UK today - they now require a negative Covid-19 PCR test or quarantine on arrival.
https://www.salzburgerland.com/en/covid-19-travel-information/
(in German): https://www.ris.bka.gv.at/GeltendeFassung.wxe?Abfrage=Bundesnormen&Gesetzesnummer=20011194 |
Are you sure that's up to date? Of all the sites they link to, only https://www.ris.bka.gv.at have the same info... And I can't find any where else reporting it either |
Ok, I have been told that this HAS been inccorectly interpreted, and that this is the relevant clause:
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(6) Die von Abs. 5 erfassten Personen haben glaubhaft zu machen, dass sie in den letzten 10 Tagen in keinem anderen Staat als Österreich oder den in der Anlage A1 genannten Staaten aufhältig waren. |
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Those persons covered by para. 5 are required to provide credible evidence that they have not been resident in any state other than Austria or the states listed in Annex A1 in the last 10 days. |
So basically, you would need a test (or quarantine) if you cannot prove you were in one of these countries for the last 10 days:
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Staaten gemäß § 2 Abs. 2, §2 Abs. 3, § 2 Abs. 5, § 2 Abs. 6 und § 3
AustralienBelgien
Dänemark
Deutschland
Estland
Finnland
Frankreich (mit Ausnahme der Regionen Île-de-France und Provence-Alpes-Cote d’Azur)
Griechenland
Irland
Island
Italien
Japan
Kanada
Lettland
Liechtenstein
Litauen
Luxemburg
Malta
Monaco
Neuseeland
Niederlande
Norwegen
Polen
Portugal (mit Ausnahme der Regionen Lissabon und Norte)
Republik Korea
San Marino
Schweden
Schweiz
Slowakei
Slowenien
Spanien – nur die Kanaren
Tschechien mit Ausnahme der Region Prag
Ungarn
Uruguay
Vatikan
Vereinigtes Königreich
Zypern |
= For most Brits no problem to travel (as confirmed by the main Austrian Tourism Board, Tirol Tourism Board, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc).
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Großbritannien is not on that list - meaning that travellers from the UK DO have to quarantine. Yes?
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United Kingdom (Vereinigtes Königreich) is on the list, so not a problem
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@Android2000, Vereinigtes Königreich = United Kingdom
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GreenDay wrote: |
dode wrote: |
Friends flew into Italy today. Their option was: a valid negative test result, which they didn’t have, or to take a (free) test in the airport. They sat in the bar for the 15mins it took to get the results back. |
I have heard of this elsewhere - wonder what happens if the 15 min test (accuracy level unclear afaik) is positive?
Back on the plane and home?
That would be a right pita and also involve track and trace of the other passengers presumably?
You would have thought that a Europe wide pre boarding test would be better - its not like you dont have time at an airport ahead of the boardign call. |
do you happen to know if that airport was Turin ? I am due to fly there end of this month
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What sort of proof will they ask for that you’ve been in the UK for the last 14 days continuously? I assume nothing making the whole thing pretty pointless?
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@PinkPig, probably nothing more than you writing it on a form. If you've arrived by plane/train you'll have a ticket showing departure location. If you've driven, you've probably got a petrol receipt or transaction from wherever you started. Realistically, it seems unlikely anyone would check, but if you have been where you say you have been, it probably isn't that hard to prove you were there.
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