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Anyone got any good recommendation for ski face mask? I'm not looking for the balaclava type mask but more covid-style mask (so it just covers half of your face).
It's mainly going to be used on ski lifts (in case they require which is likely). Ideally waterproof and breathable and does the job for protecting against covid (if it's protect against pollution all the way better as I cycle to work (or at least I used to!)). If it's really breathable I may not take it off while skiing. Don't care too much if it's not warm as cold doesn't bother me anyway 
Currently looking at Techno Cinqro - anyone used them before?
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I wear a buff while skiing and plan to just pull that up over my mouth and nose when necessary.
If it's cold I already have it like that.
That Techno Cinqro looks like a pollution mask for City use - seems overkill for what you want. If you had one already for that purpose then sure it could be used for skiing also - although to me it's look like it would be too warm for most times.
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| Layne wrote: |
I wear a buff while skiing and plan to just pull that up over my mouth and nose when necessary.
If it's cold I already have it like that. |
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Loads of neoprene face mask type things on E Bay, normally dead cheap. Often sold as cycling masks, motorcycle masks, ski/board masks.
Decathlon also do half face wrap-around balaclava masks in stretchy neoprene; very similar.
I have several different types, but unless I want something for emergency extreme conditions I just use one or more basic stretchy cheap single, double or fleece-lined buffs, depending on conditions. (Again, mostly cheapies off EB.)
Bear in mind that if you wear a helmet +/- goggles, the fit or fitting, fastening and putting on or off can be a right PITA. Buffs just pull up & down.
Covid wise, buffs are arguably the worst things, for several reasons. Multiple layered ones might be better. But the more "breathable" anything is, the less protective it probably is, for the wearer or other people. Frankly, however, for outside, does it matter?
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@Grizzler, as you say, outside it is just for show. Probably stops you sneezing all over people/things. Probably provides virtually no protection (not that this is the aim)
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Thanks - yea I thought about buff too but not sure if that will pass the candle test. The buff I've got at the moment certainly won't. Fair point though about being outside. I'm more thinking the 10 mins you're stuck in a gondola (though presumably they won't be filling a gondola to full capacity will they?!)
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| euanovsky wrote: |
| Thanks - yea I thought about buff too but not sure if that will pass the candle test. The buff I've got at the moment certainly won't. Fair point though about being outside. I'm more thinking the 10 mins you're stuck in a gondola (though presumably they won't be filling a gondola to full capacity will they?!) |
I’d be pretty sure that as soon as it gets busy they WILL be filling gondolas to capacity.
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It will be a real faff putting in masks (gloves off, helmet off etc) and with kids alongside even more of a pain. I was thinking the buff would be ok but honestly that won’t provide any protection. Need an inventor to come up with a good solution quickly!
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Contagion theatre.
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| Bennyboy1 wrote: |
| It will be a real faff putting in masks (gloves off, helmet off etc) and with kids alongside even more of a pain. I was thinking the buff would be ok but honestly that won’t provide any protection. Need an inventor to come up with a good solution quickly! |
they don't offer protection to the wearer from airborne particulates, or to the public if being worn by and individual who may be coughing. don't think I'd want my family in a gondola with someone coughing through a buff..
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Exactly. But 90% of people will wear these and not medical grade face masks.
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@Bob, and masks, at least the usual ones, single use, two ear straps, don't provide protection to the user anyway ...
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You know it makes sense.
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full face visor ski helmet
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| Mr.Egg wrote: |
| full face visor ski helmet |
I don’t know of any that cover mouth, a full face motor bike hat will do 
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I wouldn't assume the trusty ol' buff will be allowed everywhere. The gondola staff in Zermatt / Cervinia would not let you on with a ski buff, if you didn't have one of those blue face nappies you had to buy one.....conveniently on sale nearby for 1 CHF.
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Buffs weren't allowed on the lifts in France this summer. Had to be something which at least looked like a proper mask.
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Sounds like I’ll have to do as I did in the summer. Wander around with a “mask” in my pocket and stick it on if required (over the top of my buff). I have no expectation of it protecting me and very doubtful of its efficacy in protecting anyone else.
Will massively increase faff factor, I don’t think I can get my mask on over my helmet.
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Can’t wait for the chapter in “skiing with demons 4, the mask and me...” 
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Seems like we all agree that these masks provide no protection, yet we are being forced to wear them.
Placebos R Us! 
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This has to be a wind-up - a mask called “Airhole” which actually has an air hole proposed in a Covid context 
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I have a Respro Techno mask which I’m currently using out and about... not yet skied in it but I can speak from experience that it’s a good tight fit and allows you to breath normally... I’m not sure how it would perform if you actually skied with it on - but for lifts it would do the job and it’s very quick to take off and on.
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(If you go for a Respro get a two pack of replacement filters at the same time as will save you the wait on their website next time round)
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| Pyjama Tim wrote: |
| I have a Respro Techno mask which I’m currently using out and about... not yet skied in it but I can speak from experience that it’s a good tight fit and allows you to breath normally... I’m not sure how it would perform if you actually skied with it on - but for lifts it would do the job and it’s very quick to take off and on. |
I cycled in London every day using a Respro mask and it was very good (the inner filter needed changing every few weeks) - BUT - it provides zero protection for anyone else around you because the exhale valves open to expel air quickly ...
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You know it makes sense.
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I’ve just seen that Respro now sell two valve blocks (dipping in and out of stock)
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| Pyjama Tim wrote: |
| I’ve just seen that Respro now sell two valve blocks (dipping in and out of stock) |
Yup - but sadly I doubt that the lift control staff will take anyone's word that valve bloks are fitted inside the mask!
I'm hearing that medical style face masks will be required to board a lift in Verbier this winter (sharing the big cable cars with 150 people will be interesting otherwise).
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Poster: A snowHead
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| oui4ski wrote: |
| Pyjama Tim wrote: |
| I’ve just seen that Respro now sell two valve blocks (dipping in and out of stock) |
Yup - but sadly I doubt that the lift control staff will take anyone's word that valve bloks are fitted inside the mask!
I'm hearing that medical style face masks will be required to board a lift in Verbier this winter (sharing the big cable cars with 150 people will be interesting otherwise). |
The recommended facemask is supposed to be 3 ply. The majority of masks people buy are only 2 ply.
So good idea forcing a specific style of mask.
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@Tom_Ski, ...weird - I have an airhole and its the best mask/snood out there - was also going to suggest simply turning it around . . .
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Over here you need an FFP2 mask. I have mostly got away with an expensive Respro Ultralight cycling mask but I added filters inside the vent valves too. Being a velcro behind the head fastening I can put it on and strap it up under the edge of my ski helmet. Lifties are checking and people with only buffs etc are not being allowed on. Very well organised.
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I'm sure I read a post earlier this year by a ski instructor who had produced Covid-compliant buffs that could be just pulled up arounf the face when entering lifts etc and pulled down when outdoors. Can't find it now, but does anyone know if these are being sold anywhere ?
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@albob, Thanks for that link. Looks interesting. Have you tried them?
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@DCG, no - i just searched for a Covid buff when this thread was started...
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I used this last year and bought three of them but only really used them in conjunction with other masks when I really wanted an actual, functional mask. You can see light through it.
https://www.seirus.com/evo-arc-thick-n-thin-headliner
I also tried using filters on the inside with mixed success.
This year I think I'm trying the FFP2 filter held on by a neck warmer for Austria. At home? Not sure I'll use anything. No rules here and I've gotten the third shot.
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FAQ
You guys on that side of the pond may be able to score one from your local 