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What's the accepted wisdom on summer storage of skis? I've given a quick hot scrape of my skis to clean them, applied a generous coat of all-purpose wax wax on base and edges (left unscraped), loosened the bindings and left them stored on their tails and not clipped together. Is there anything different/else I should have done?
Do bindings need maintenance/lubrication which can be easily done at home?
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| rob@rar.org.uk wrote: |
| Do bindings need maintenance/lubrication which can be easily done at home? |
There's a question 
Read your handbook, all manufacturers have a 20-30 day's use before servicing (or at least annually) requirement. Store them in a clean, dry/temperature stable environment and have them serviced/lubricated/tested by an authorised technician prior to your next trip.
They're not rocket science, but they are designed and manufactured to very tight tolerances and used in a harsh environment. I have a three year old set of rental bindings that are completely sh*gged
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I'm sure I read somewhere that loosening bindings doesn't do anything,but also not to store them clipped together.
Also I wonder if it's best to store them with the binding released or as if a boot were in them??
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Do bindings need maintenance/lubrication which can be easily done at home?
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interesting.....in most cases the binding is a sealed unit that you cannot get into to do any servicing on, what you have done is absolutly fine, mind you there is question as to whether or not winding the DIN settings down is required 
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Store the skis with the bindings closed (but NOT with the boots in). It is supposed to maintain the "springyness" of the springs according to the literature I got with my bindings.
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Last year I mounted and tested a pair of Salomon S900 Equipe bindings...they had been on another pair of skis for 5 years or so. The DIN had not been wound down, and they were left in the 'open' position.
They tested fine 
I'm not suggesting this is the correct procedure...
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| the ice perv wrote: |
| Store the skis with the bindings closed (but NOT with the boots in). |
That's what I've done.
On a new pair of bindings I recently bought there is a little bit of grease to be seen (a pale green colour) which looks like its purpose is lubrication rather than residue from manufacturing. I was just wondering if new bindings are lubricated is there a need to add some additional lubricant during an annual service. Although my ski service kit is in France I'm sure I could rustle up a heavy duty emery board from Jane's make-up cupboard if that's what's needed...
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I always give mine (bindings) a quick squirt of WD40 before storage, just to keep the moisture out. Dunno if it's a good idea or not?
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Masque,
yes sealed, when you wind the DIN down to minimum on most bindings the screw oes not come out (if it did there is a risk that it would fall out and all the bits would drop out).....now go back to the older styles of bindings Look turntable etc and if you keep winding the whole thing comes to bits, you used to get spare springs for the 99RS for when they snapped
AxsMan, you would be better with a silicon style lube as the oil in WD40 can attract dirt and cause problems i the long term, a very good quality grease can be applyed to the track to enable this to be adjusted in the future.
BUT PLEASE, do not put vasaline or similar on the edges and then take your skis into a shop for service, A] it is petroleum based and will destroy the base & B] either the machine in the shop or your skis will get trashed when they slip on the autofeed when being put through the stone grinder!!!!
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AxsMan, From my research and data from the binding manufacturers, that's probably not a good idea. They use a specific low temperature grease on the binding's working surfaces, WD40 under pressure might well wash this off and affect the friction coefficient that keeps them within the DIN standard they're legally required to perform to.
The manufacturers try to make their equipment as foolproof as possible ... but it's still a piece of engineering that's open to the environment and easily contaminated by conditions and debris. In your own equipment you can sense changes in its performance ... it's a different ball game if you're using rented or borrowed kit.
For best and safest results, follow the manufacturers requirements ... they're there for a reason.
edit: SH*T the grammar!  must remember to engage brain before smacking keyboard with forehead
Last edited by snowHeads are a friendly bunch. on Fri 28-04-06 18:46; edited 1 time in total
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Ok - thanks Masque and CEM for the comments. So would I be better to use a silicon spray, or use nothing at all? or try to get hold of some of the grease used by the manufacturers? (is it sold in ski shops?).
I'd obviously like to do whatever is best for the safety and longevity of the bindings.
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AxsMan, VP90 is the best anti-corrosion system for metal storage
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You know it makes sense.
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AxsMan, I'm not a bindings technician ... I've just had to do a lot of research into the products and I have no hands-on experience. However I do respect the designers and engineers that produce the kit and recon they have the best interests of both the retailer and the user in mind when making their bindings ... add to that the legislation that's part of the production process it's difficult to ignore their instructions. Any lubricant that meets the international SAE/ISO standards used by the manufacturer is fine, you just need to be qualified to apply it in the right place and quantity. It is a legal requirement for ski hirers to maintain servicing qualifications and servicing records ... when was the last time anyone here asked for a copy of those records for the skis they've borrowed or hired from a company?
VP90 is a vapour based anti-corrosion system designed for gun care, but it's perfect for skis as it only acts on unprotected metal and is not oil based.
edited for even worse grammar than is remaining.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Fri 28-04-06 16:29; edited 1 time in total
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Masque, this stuff? http://www.scottcountry.co.uk/products_detail.asp?productID=1446
or the sachets? (I don't have a 'sealed environment' to store our ski's, they spend the summer leaning against a wall in our spare room).
(I also shoot (and store) a couple of Air rifles including a Logun Axsor so it could come in handy).
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Poster: A snowHead
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AxsMan, The sachet in a ski bag is perfect, though if you store them somewhere dry and temperature stable why worry?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar.org.uk, Cut them up into small pieces and put them in a box, wait until next year and buy some Mantra, Seth, Pure, Hot Rod Top Fuel.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The edges on my new skis were a bit rusty when i came back from Val Thorens! I've cleaned it down a bit with a dry cloth. Is there anything i should do or should of done before that could help?
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AN02ZEJ, you could just rub a candle along the edges, my boards always used to come out clean after a Summer in their bag. I now use a sachet of VP90 in the bags year round and don't have any corrosion at all, but I do rinse off dirt etc. then dry them before their summer sleep.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| rob@rar.org.uk, Cut them up into small pieces and put them in a box, wait until next year and buy some Mantra, Seth, Pure, Hot Rod Top Fuel. |
Hmmm! They're a pair of Volkl Karma - do you really want me to cut them up?
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rob@rar.org.uk, summer storage! 
Just keep skiing.
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I was planning on sleeping with mine
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Did you ever get your bumps technique sorted? The timing of the pole plant?
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| Ian Hopkinson wrote: |
| Can't over-emphasise the benefits I've found from having my own skis - I think the Volkl 5* are a fairly advanced on piste ski (which isn't how I would have described my ski-ing) and seem to suit me pretty well. Interestingly Mrs H tried out then bought a pair of K2 Burnin' Luvs right at the end of our last trip, having had a great morning on a demo pair. If she'd known they were described as advanced / expert she wouldn't have tried them. If you put the 5*'s and the Burnin' Luvs face to face they're pretty much identical shape... |
There's a really good summary of what reviews are worth! Good for her not to cave to marketing.
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comprex, more a case of ignorance than intent
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Masque, All good advice - thanks!
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MIne an hubby's are in our ski locker at the apartment, just in caes we get over there in late June and decide to go to LDA for the day.
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You know it makes sense.
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Our new and unused (well my son has had his out once in MK) skis are in the garden shed with the spiders. The house is full. Maybe I'll give them a light rub with a candle just on the edges.
Hopefully we will also get to LDA in a few weeks.
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Well, my slalom skis will be mostly in the car (or maybe the front porch), as I use them every Sat and Weds, and hardly use to car other than to get to the ski-slope. Probably ought to do what rob@rar.org.uk does for the "all-mountain"s though.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ski, not sure about that - maybe one at the end of the season - but I'm plucking up courage at the moment to sign up for the SRSA series (I know I missed Chatham last week, but couldn't be bothered going that far)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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GrahamN, 18 June is the next one - at Aldershot - it would be good to get another there ! You need to get you entry in before the Wednesday before the race.........
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