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Surely they will remove this requirement as soon as possible. It would be a disaster for their ski resorts if it is still the same at the start of the season! It’s too much hassle to have a test within four days of arrival. I’m off to Obergurgl in March. I would just switch to another country. I expect most people would. Can you imagine the cost and hassle for a family of four?
On the flip side, you would have the slopes to yourself
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Eggfried, you're obviously not clear on the current regulations for visiting Austria. But of course it may all change by winter. I cannot envisage a situation where German tourists are not allowed in Austria, but I can envisage a situation where other tourists might need a "COVID passport".
And of course, Austria is not the only country with winter tourism. France, Italy, Switzerland, etc. might well do the same.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@queenie pretty please,
You are of course right. I just hope that things work out for all Snowheads this season.
Having been among the unlucky ones to have flown out to La Plagne on March 14th, only to be told virtually upon arrival that the resort is closing and we would be repatriated to the UK as soon as possible. And then the grief of trying to get anything back from our T/O. We just want a couple of stress free trips this season. Fingers crossed.
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@Eggfried, if you want stress-free trips, then I'd suggest waiting until there is a satisfactory solution to the worldwide pandemic.
I feel rather more sympathetic to the plight of the millions of people who have lost loved ones, jobs, livelihoods and/or have long term health problems as a result of this pandemic. I won't lose any sleep over a few middle class Brits who don't manage to get a stress-free holiday. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Eggfried, it is difficult to predict what the situation will be next week let alone next March. If you are an optimist there will be vaccines and the whole thing will be over if you are a pessimist then there will be rampant virus and basically no ski season for brits. Not sure what country you would switch to, the restrictions are pretty much the same everywhere.
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| Eggfried wrote: |
| We just want a couple of stress free trips this season. Fingers crossed. |
I suspect the uncertainty, with the likelihood of sudden spikes or clusters / lockdowns /14 day quarantines during the winter months, will make the coming season problematical. An acceptance of this new reality and being relaxed about things changing at a moments notice, will be key imo.
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
@Eggfried, if you want stress-free trips, then I'd suggest waiting until there is a satisfactory solution to the worldwide pandemic.
I feel rather more sympathetic to the plight of the millions of people who have lost loved ones, jobs, livelihoods and/or have long term health problems as a result of this pandemic. I won't lose any sleep over a few middle class Brits who don't manage to get a stress-free holiday. |
People are losing livelihoods precisely because people are not able to go on holiday.
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@queenie pretty please,
I lost my Father to Covid. We couldn’t even say our goodbyes to him in the hospital. So I fully appreciate that holidays are not of the upmost importance. But life goes on. We are in our early 60’s, and we have, and continue take all the precautions we can to stay safe and observe all the rules and guidances. More than most as far as I can see! We work very hard and go without many other niceties to pay for these trips. So I have no reservations about hoping for a hassle free trip.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Belgium travel now a problem. Not clear if driving straight through is acceptable or not.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Bennyboy1 I'm working on the basis that you can not drive through Belgium or Luxembourg, i'm not sure whether that is right or not, the whole thing is a farce imv, political points scoring nonsense.
So we are due to drive down via Eurotunnel on 28th, currently thinking we'll have to go Rheims and cut into Germany via Saarbruecken etc, but who knows I wouldn't be surprised if France is next on the list, the media appear to be talking it up, and that's presumably BoZo feeding the BBC his soundbites. I just looked at P&O Hull/ Rotterdam and they've hiked their prices which would be £800 return, so that's out.
It's looking ever more doubtful but we don't need to decie yet so will keep everything crossed.
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If France goes on the list, then we`re stuffed. But driving through Belgium/Luxemburg, just switch your phone off for that part of the journey, or at least on Flight mode.
Its whether Germany insist on something when you enter them at Schengen.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Markymark29, if you are driving straight through they should say it’s ok. Stupid situation, a farce as you say. I think adding France may be a couple of weeks away as they would want families to be able to work on return and kids at school.
Would you consider flying instead? We gave up on the car and decided to fly to Munich some time ago (mainly as decided to leave our dog in the uk).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@jafa,
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Its whether Germany insist on something when you enter them at Schengen.
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I think that's more the issue - I can see Germany setting up border patrols very soon...
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Bennyboy1, Nah, planes arent us atm......the point of our planned trip is to hike, bike (our own mtb's) and rescue our ski gear we had to leave in winter when we got booted out at short notice!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@jafa, turning your phone off doesn’t stop it from sending a ping. You need to remove the battery, if you can.
Belgium’s on the list, though France is still speculative, no firm announcement, unless I missed it.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Strange that every site ive looked at says if the phone is switched off, then no one knows where that phone is located. Certainly when ive watched Cop programmes, they`ve been frustrated when a phone signal cant be traced because the phone is either off, or the battery run down.
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@jafa, It used to be that a mobile would send a random ping, even when turned off, with smartphones it maybe turned off but some do still run software in the background. You would probably MI5 to get the info, its more likely that they would pull information from the overhead cameras if they were desperate. There was a TV thriller series that showed the hero taking out the battery after every call he made. I don’t want to go of thread on this! Edit, checkout Quora for more answers.
Getting to Austria is as you probably know is pretty straightforward through France, a pain to pay the tolls.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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.....or the car tracker if it has one.
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| Eggfried wrote: |
@queenie pretty please,
I lost my Father to Covid. We couldn’t even say our goodbyes to him in the hospital. So I fully appreciate that holidays are not of the upmost importance. But life goes on. We are in our early 60’s, and we have, and continue take all the precautions we can to stay safe and observe all the rules and guidances. More than most as far as I can see! We work very hard and go without many other niceties to pay for these trips. So I have no reservations about hoping for a hassle free trip. |
So sorry to read that. How awful. It certainly puts things into perspective.
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Why don't you just obey the rules? We are all in this together.................allegedley
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| Eggfried wrote: |
@queenie pretty please,
I lost my Father to Covid. We couldn’t even say our goodbyes to him in the hospital. So I fully appreciate that holidays are not of the upmost importance. But life goes on. We are in our early 60’s, and we have, and continue take all the precautions we can to stay safe and observe all the rules and guidances. More than most as far as I can see! We work very hard and go without many other niceties to pay for these trips. So I have no reservations about hoping for a hassle free trip. |
So sorry to read that. How awful. It certainly puts things into perspective. |
Understand the perspective. But perhaps it's less stressful to wait for the following season, the money saved from 2021 season should pay for a few extra niceties in 2022?
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@Maersk, rules? You mean the don’t travel Cummings ones? Either way folks have every right to travel, unless you know something different? Mainland Europe is In general much safer than U.K. despite the bs that is spread via our media....you know more?
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queenie pretty please
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Location: Ski Amadé, Austria
Eggfried wrote:
@queenie pretty please,
I lost my Father to Covid. We couldn’t even say our goodbyes to him in the hospital. So I fully appreciate that holidays are not of the upmost importance. But life goes on. We are in our early 60’s, and we have, and continue take all the precautions we can to stay safe and observe all the rules and guidances. More than most as far as I can see! We work very hard and go without many other niceties to pay for these trips. So I have no reservations about hoping for a hassle free trip.
So sorry to read that. How awful. It certainly puts things into perspective
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Thank you. But you are right, there are far more important considerations right now.
Let’s hope things get better ASAP.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Understand the perspective. But perhaps it's less stressful to wait for the following season, the money saved from 2021 season should pay for a few extra niceties in 2022?
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You are probably right. But you are talking to a keen skier who due to a knee injury hasn’t been able to ski for the last 25 years.
finally we get to La Plagne on the 14th March (you can’t imagine how happy I was) and they send us straight home!!
I’m too long in the tooth to get stressed. But hassle free would be so nice this time !!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@jafa, turning your phone off doesn’t stop it from sending a ping. You need to remove the battery, if you can.
Belgium’s on the list, though France is still speculative, no firm announcement, unless I missed it. |
No phone I have ever seen does this ( I have worked in development of mobile phone chips n sw since 1990... ). Maybe I missed some tho. You have some evidence?
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Lots of evidence in TV shows such as Homeland and 24, etc. 
The only sure way not to be tracked it to take out the battery then smah your phone.
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You know it makes sense.
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@JimboS, I must be reading the wrong novels but in the books I read the tracking device is always added to the baggage or car of some one travelling in the opposite direction. After all they are tracking the phone not the person who owns it
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Anyway I'm now on my way to the dolomites. I'll report on each country as we pass though it if my wife is driving that section
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Good luck, hope you remembered to take a couple of burners.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Markymark29, Torygraph says as long as you don’t stop whilst driving through Belgium it is within the rules for no quarantine on return.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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......so it must be try
But offers some hope??
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@radar, We drove to Tuscany from Munich yesterday, the place we are staying is quiet and has folk from Holland and Germany (there were a brit couple who left this morning to drive all the way back to UK), no need for any forms. Beyond the mask thing in supermarkets, entering restaurants all as you would expect, very hot and sunny with perhaps fewer middle class northern Europeans than normal!
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@munich_irish, lots of German and Dutch, few Belgians and the odd French in Saalbach
The form is new, got an alert from FCO yesterday, will add it to the French ones 
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@Bennyboy1, as posted elsewhere:
“ Private vehicles
You don’t need to self-isolate if you travel through a non-exempt country and you don’t stop in the country.
If you do make a stop, you don’t need to self-isolate if:
no new people get into the vehicle
no-one in the vehicle gets out, mixes with other people, and gets in again
You do need to self-isolate if you make a stop and:
new people get into the vehicle, or
someone gets out of the vehicle, mixes with other people and gets in again”
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors#transit-stops
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@DJL, Thank you, non stop through Belgium it is
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Ok we are in France now heading along the a4 towards saarbrucken.
There was a slight hold up at the tunnel but in fact at an hour delay less than usual. And it was an August Saturday.
Basically everything is progressing as expected except it's very hot out there 37 degrees.
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