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ECM completes the set....still some warm air wrapped in from the SW, and 8 days away
NH profile, showing mean ECM ensemble pressure anoms has +PNA Index (Pacific North America), usually seen with El Nino, southerly US jet, with -AO, -NAO, southerly Euro jet, Greenland high, Scandi high, Euro trough....La Nina early season footprint....but not perfect, a little too far west still
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The two latest EC operational both shows low pressure coming down from northwest towards the Alps. Might see some heavy snowfall in the next weekend over large areas. Far out, but still looking quite likely.
As @polo showed, a good taste of moderate La Nina over Europe now. Talking about La Nina, after that sudden warming in Enso 3,4, the temperatures have dropped quickly again. Where will it go next?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Continuing to shape up quite nicely for next weekend.
With a bit of snow midweek too.
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Let‘s see how this develops...
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| nozawaonsen wrote: |
Here‘s the 12z GFS update. Still looking good for the Italian/Austrian border.
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A good pasting for the Dollies and Osttitrol next weekend, eh?
Would lay a good base for the season, might not need to fire up the snow cannons so quickly.
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@luigi, looking that way for now.
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60cm of cold smoke on Saturday/Sunday would be very welcome!
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Snowing in the Jungfrau area
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Still some small swings east and west on the track of the weekend low, but a good illustration of how even with a strong -NAO and -AO, some parts of the alps could end up with some warm air.....low pressure too far west brings up warm air on the eastern flank, so could briefly end up with a FL some 2000m higher at the eastern end, and the heaviest snow on the south ridge. Thankfully the whole system pushes east into early next week.
Very widespread snow across europe now likely, with GFS 06z showing 88cm for Scotland, 17cm for Wales out to the 8th
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You know it makes sense.
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It’s just over ten years since we woke up to heavy snow in Scotland, there was also thunder snow which I had never experienced before, normally snow doesn’t last long in this area but due to the cold and the council being unprepared we were walking on ice for about a month, the skiing was fantastic all winter. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| polo wrote: |
Footnote for nerds....the pacific low is odd for a La Nina base state, likely MJO related ....convection pushing east? AAM is diving -ve into mid Dec....wonder what it all means, if anything. |
Yep. Just makes things more complex.
Anyway, finally got around to the seasonal outlook:
https://longrangesnowcenter.net/2020/12/01/european-winter-outlook-2020-21/
Hedging my bets a little, with an average-slightly above average snowfall forecast for the winter.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Jellybeans1000, Interesting read. Exciting start of December in Europe with H in northeast and a lot of activity in Southern Europe/ the Mediterranean. A classical moderate La Nina winter situation. The situation in North America at the moment is anything but typical for a moderate La Nina historically. Could become a very good snow season in the Alps if this continues. EC operationals/ENS and latest GFS operationals/ENS all suggest that in some forms this weather pattern will last until mid December. EC ens keeps the temperatures slighly below average in the long range in the Alps.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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High pressure in place over the entire West Coast of USA. Jet stream has decided to check out Canada for awhile. Maybe by end of next week, a few weak lows will start to break down the high. Until then, Canada is a good place to be, if you want fresh snow. GFS and Euro runs seem to indicate a few signs of life for the 2nd half of December. Time will tell...
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LWD take for those who may have winter hiking on the mind.
Starting Friday 4.12, heavy snowfall in South, marked increase in avalanche danger
“The current ZAMG forecast foresees 50-70 cm in the valleys of East Tirol, 120-180 cm in the mountains. Along the Main Alpine Ridge as far as the Ötztal Alps, up to 50 cm in anticipated in the valleys, 100-150 cm in the mountains.”
https://lawinen.report/blog/avalanche-warning-service-tirol.blogspot.com/3356715935583964890
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Looking beyond the big dump in Austria/Italy the Écrins got a mention here
https://wepowder.com/en
And Meteo Suisse calling out Andermatt for a big dump over the weekend
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@nozawaonsen,  Meteo fenestre indicates that it has now stopped snowing here, and there is at least 3mm on next door's roof (which is what I can see from my computer). Hopefully the next bout will bring a little more...
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@Scarlet, 
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So ugly...
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@BobinCH, shocking day in the mountains...
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Nice to see...cheers all!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| munich_irish wrote: |
Looks like there could be heavy snowfall in the Dolomites / Southern Austria this weekend
The folks at Severe Weather can get a bit over excited at the prospect of more extreme weather events but they think a big storm with significant avalanche / flood risk |
Yep, expecting 1 to 1.5 meters across Dolomites at altitude. Snow level will vary between 800 and 1500 meters on Saturday. Flooding likely to be an issue between the southern Dolomites and the pre alps with possibly 200mm of rain expected. Dont think natural snow will be an issue for the Val Gardena world cup ski races mid December.
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Bananas 
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You know it makes sense.
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Cortina, Italy, at 1300m.
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| BobinCH wrote: |
Looking beyond the big dump in Austria/Italy the Écrins got a mention here
https://wepowder.com/en
And Meteo Suisse calling out Andermatt for a big dump over the weekend |
Yes a storm has rolled in here overnight, heavy snow with a strong wind. Forecast to continue all day. The weekend should be nice although of course the lifts are closed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Claude B wrote: |
| BobinCH wrote: |
Looking beyond the big dump in Austria/Italy the Écrins got a mention here
https://wepowder.com/en
And Meteo Suisse calling out Andermatt for a big dump over the weekend |
Yes a storm has rolled in here overnight, heavy snow with a strong wind. Forecast to continue all day. The weekend should be nice although of course the lifts are closed. |
We had a lot of wind last night but it is very warm this morning and doesn't look like any new snow in the mountains around Grenoble.
Update 11am: precipitation has started, falling as snow to around 1200/1300 meters maybe 900 in the Haute-Savoie
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SLF forecast.
https://www.slf.ch/en/avalanche-bulletin-and-snow-situation.html#snowpack
Weather forecast through Friday, 04.12.2020
Skies are expected to be heavily overcast, accompanied by short foehn-induced bright intervals in the northeastern regions. Snowfall down to low lying areas is expected over widespread areas, most of which will fall in the southern regions.
Fresh snow
By Friday evening, the following amounts of fresh snow are anticipated:
- Ticino, as well as Main Alpine Ridge from Lukmanier Pass as far as the Bernina and southwards therefrom: 30 to 40 cm;
- Upper Valais part of the Main Alpine Ridge and western part of the Jura: 20 to 30 cm;
- remaining regions of Switzerland: 5 to 15 cm over widespread areas;
- along the central and eastern parts of the Prealps and in northern Grisons, it will remain dry by and large.
Temperature
At midday at 2000 m, between -6 °C in the southwestern regions and -3 °C in the northeastern regions.
Wind
In the western regions strong-velocity southerly winds, in the other regions of Switzerland blowing at storm strength;
in the valleys of the northern regions, foehn windstorm, slackening off in the afternoon.
Outlook through Sunday, 06.12.2020
Skies will be heavily overcast. Winds from southerly directions will be blowing at moderate to strong velocity, in the eastern regions temporarily blowing at storm strength at high altitudes. In the northern regions, a small amount of snowfall is expected to fall down to low lying areas on both days. On the Main Alpine Ridge from Lukmanier Pass as far as the Bernina, approximately 40 to 60 cm of fresh snow is expected to fall each day, in the remaining parts of the southern flank of the Alps approximately 30 to 40 cm each day. The amounts of fresh fallen snow expected to fall on Sunday are still uncertain. In the furthermost southern regions, the snowfall level will ascend to approximately 1500 m.
On the southern flank of the Alps, on the Main Alpine Ridge from Upper Valais into the Engadine, and in the southern parts of the Urner Alps, the Glarus Alps and central Grisons, avalanche danger levels are expected to increase markedly. Increasingly frequent naturally triggered avalanches are expected to release, including even very-large sized ones in isolated cases in shady avalanche starting zones above approximately 2500 m. On Saturday, avalanche danger level 4 - high - is expected to be reached on the Main Alpine Ridge from Lukmanier Pass into the Engadine and southwards therefrom. In the remaining regions of Switzerland, avalanche danger levels will also increase, but not as strikingly.
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It seems like there are some interesting snow directions for France today. Multiple bands of snow approaching from different directions, with the heaviest falls forecast to be in the northwest and southeast (and the Haute Maurienne) but perhaps not much the "middle". Quite unusual?
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@denfinella, It will only Snow in the Tarentaise and Haute Tarentaise when the Forhn stops blowing which will be after noon today .
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@BobinCH, is that verbier?
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| ajc2260626 wrote: |
| @BobinCH, is that verbier? |
Good heavens no! That is the ugliest resort in the Alps, according to some?!?! Val Thorens.
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@BobinCH,
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| ajc2260626 wrote: |
@BobinCH, lol i have actually being to verbier (farinet) but have blurred memories...... is there much snow in verbier at the mo? am toying with the idea of coming out next week for a week with the family? if there is could you recommend any self catering places near the nursery slopes?  |
Yes there is some snow and lots of accommodation available - check airbnb. But the beginner skiing will be in La Chaux so look for accommodation nr Medran (main lift) or one of the bus stops serving it if you are hauling kids. You may want to move this post to the Verbier thread to avoid getting flamed by the forum police!
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