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Ortovox cross rider back protector included?

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Hi, I'm considering buying an ortovox crossrider backpack. It is part of the 'freeride' range which says all the range has the back protector fitted. However, when looking at the technical information on them it doesn't mention the back protector but it does on the freerider model. A friend has one and he's sure it has one but he hasn't got access to it at at the moment. Could anyone clarify? Thanks.
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I've got a 20. It's not really a back protector, but there is a stiffish bit with 6 cushioned pads on it. Better than nothing but certainly not anything like the real thing. It is a very nice pack though.
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musher wrote:
I've got a 20. It's not really a back protector, but there is a stiffish bit with 6 cushioned pads on it. Better than nothing but certainly not anything like the real thing. It is a very nice pack though.

Thanks, do you know if it's the same as what's fitted to the freerider?
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It's this:


http://youtube.com/v/vrAa9e5MeSU

Same as on our Powderriders, not as burly as my Evoc, nor is the pack as well held in place (which is important for a protector to function). Still nice packs though, think we have 4 Ortovox between 3 of us (plus 2 Ortovox zip on backs for Avi bags).
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Looks like the freerider has a burlier protector which you can take in and out, plus a better waist band (similar to my Evoc) to hold everything in place:


http://youtube.com/v/KDJURAP7cvU

So in summary: No the system on the crossrider is not like the freerider, it is similar to the powderrider.
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The system isn't the same in that you can't remove it from the cross rider, but I suspect the built in thing is quite similar to the removable one of the free rider from looking at that video above. It feels like high density foam about 1cm thick.
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Thanks for the input guys. You're right about them being different. The crossrider is padded whereas the freerider has a t.u.v approved back protector system fitted. I've just ordered a freerider from gravity protection for £110.
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@Whitty, I think if back protection is one of the things you are looking to achieve then you've done the right thing. The much more secure waist band alone on the freerider points to greater focus on protection from that pack.
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midgetbiker wrote:
@Whitty, I think if back protection is one of the things you are looking to achieve then you've done the right thing. The much more secure waist band alone on the freerider points to greater focus on protection from that pack.

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midgetbiker wrote:
@Whitty, I think if back protection is one of the things you are looking to achieve then you've done the right thing. The much more secure waist band alone on the freerider points to greater focus on protection from that pack.

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Never saw the crossrider in hands, but I have a Freerider 18L(https://www.ortovox.com/gr-en/shop/backpacks/p50112-freeride-free-rider-18-l) and I absolutely love it.
The only thing I wish it had is the hability to carry the skis on the the side, this model(18L) only let's you carry it diagonally. Not a big deal though.
The back protector is in place but you can't take it out, I guess if you want to replace it, you need to open the stitches manually.

This is the back:
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