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SCGB is now irrelevant.
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Don’t be so sure. They vill be bACk!
Just need the T1000 Goldsmith Android to reboot.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@AL9000, dear God NOooooooooo
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Alastair Pink wrote: |
@ecureuil, from the Press Release you refer to:
"His appointment comes after an extensive and robust three-month recruitment and selection process, led by Warren Partners, executive search consultants for the Ski Club, which attracted over 100 applications.
The Chairman of the Ski Club, Malcolm Bentley, added:
“We are delighted to announce Ian as our new Chief Executive. Having worked closely with him as Treasurer, I am confident he will continue to drive the future of the Club and the continuity he provides together with his knowledge of the Club will optimise his effectiveness in pursuing our goals along with the team and Council."
Well that seems to have worked out well.... |
Well the severance package certainly worked out well for someone. So I am familiar with Warren Partners https://www.warrenpartners.co.uk/ - they aren't cheap! 'Over 100 applications' and they ended up with someone who is almost invisible on the Internet, an international man of mystery indeed - normally high level execs like that appear on numerous searches because they've been mentioned in the press or given a talk etc. If you remember, he had to put out his CV in greater detail (wish I could find it) because, I gather, people were increasingly asking questions like "who the hell is this guy?" But it didn't help matters, actually made them worse because the wonderful CV of accomplishments doesn't appear to be easily verifiable. For most of us, it's just a matter of someone checking out our LinkedIn profile and doing a bit of Googling, going for a few references etc.
So I suspect it was a cosy 'shoe in' based on the 'he knows where the bodies are buried' principle (I'm not saying anyone has been murdered! It's a turn of phrase). I don't have the inclination or time but I think the financial revelations of the last year or so should be looked into far more deeply, starting with the sale of the building to a Jersey-based trust called Caligula with no named shareholders/directors. That never felt appropriately transparent to me.
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SCGB Director Gerry Aitken wrote as part of his all-round charm offensive:
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I remember my mate’s cousin refusing work as a farm labourer because it would only make her £20 a week better off over her benefits package. In her head that was like working for £20 a week. She was a big woman and would have been good on the plough. |
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The latest (main) tranche of Freshtracks holidays were posted this morning. It looks like the very successful Flaine chalet holidays are no more. These were excellent with the good and consistent coaching and guiding from Yann Westercamp and his team, unlike others Freshtracks holidays where the instructors and guides have been random and often not good. It looks like there is also no Chamonix (Les Houches) chalet this year either. I’m guessing all this is due to not having the reserves to commit to leasing the chalets and paying staff. Now for me there is no reason to go with Freshtracks instead of Snowworks (for example) for guided or instructed off piste holidays.
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Hmm - £1825 - let's say you can get the base HB package with flights and trfrs for £925 inc pass
For the extra £900 that's £150 per day each. For 6 in a group you're back to £900 per day for a guide who probably costs nearer Euro 350 per day. Still some healthy mark-up going on.
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@albob, I see the SCGB webpage for their Arabba trip is giving contradictory information. At the start it says single occupancy rooom, then later in the description it says the holiday is on a twin share basis? Pretty poor if they can't give accurate information!
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
Hmm - £1825 - let's say you can get the base HB package with flights and trfrs for £925 inc pass
For the extra £900 that's £150 per day each. For 6 in a group you're back to £900 per day for a guide who probably costs nearer Euro 350 per day. Still some healthy mark-up going on. |
Because they add in a fixed sort of amortisation of the head office costs to each package. They sell relatively few holidays for the overhead burden and, let's face reality, at those prices, with a shrunken membership and in a post pandemic world of travel uncertainty, the numbers are likely to be heading south apace.
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@albob, I see the SCGB webpage for their Arabba trip is giving contradictory information. At the start it says single occupancy rooom, then later in the description it says the holiday is on a twin share basis? Pretty poor if they can't give accurate information! |
As I have said far too often - nobody there cares enough, nobody loves it.
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the novelty has worn off and Hippo Inns might want to think of a new theme, new layout. A few old pics and books, an old pair of Dynastars in a cage and gondola cabin doth not make an alpine bar. |
And then today I get an email from them literally full of cheese:
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HOT OFF THE PRESS! We are hosting an exclusive launch at The White Haus with 50% OFF FOOD in our brand new restaurant – ‘Off Piste’, showcasing a special premium evening menu designed to tantalise your taste buds and transport you back to the slopes.
Bring on those happy memories of alpine air, mountain meals and fabulous fondues and join us for a sneak peak at what we've in store for you. Our wonderful new menu incorporates the very best of fresh, locally sourced seasonal produce and has been lovingly prepared by our talented chefs – winners of the best Food Offer at the Publican Awards 2021 - so you’re in for a treat!
So get your après ski boots on to receive 50% off your food bill and email Jessica to reserve a table. We're only accepting a select amount of bookings each day so please hurry and get in touch now so you don't miss out or wipe out!!! |
I think they must be mad. A restaurant called Off Piste Wonder if the Reps are allowed? Alpine themed bars in London don't even work particularly well in the winter! I note no mention of the Ski Club of Great Britain. You'd think the marketing tie up would work a bit better than that.
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[quote="Pruman"]
Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
Hmm - £1825 - let's say you can get the base HB package with flights and trfrs for £925 inc pass
For the extra £900 that's £150 per day each. For 6 in a group you're back to £900 per day for a guide who probably costs nearer Euro 350 per day. Still some healthy mark-up going on. |
Because they add in a fixed sort of amortisation of the head office costs to each package. They sell relatively few holidays for the overhead burden and, let's face reality, at those prices, with a shrunken membership and in a post pandemic world of travel uncertainty, the numbers are likely to be heading south apace.
Well quite - but it's not exactly the concept of a club is it? You join a club to facilitate the pooling of people to get access to things you couldn't otherwise not to pay a high slice of overhead over what you could set up independently if you had say a group of 6 mates. So is it really a "no mates" tax?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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...As I have said far too often - nobody there cares enough, nobody loves it. |
I believe their directors are too busy "promoting" far-right politics in these very pages to actually curate their own stuff.
Me, well I'm still playing in the snow. The idea of these hateful old white men in their cliques abusing me and others from
the safety of their sticky keyboards.... laughable. I doubt they can ski any better than they can think.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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philwig wrote: |
Pruman wrote: |
...As I have said far too often - nobody there cares enough, nobody loves it. |
I believe their directors are too busy "promoting" far-right politics in these very pages to actually curate their own stuff.
Me, well I'm still playing in the snow. The idea of these hateful old white men in their cliques abusing me and others from
the safety of their sticky keyboards.... laughable. I doubt they can ski any better than they can think.
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Where is this God damn you!
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You know it makes sense.
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@albob,
SnowHeads and SCGB in the same small village, same week and they’re even recommending the same equipment rental shop. I wonder which Stube they’ll frequent? What a good relationship building opportunity.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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What I can’t quite get my head around is that SCGB is continuing to offer a specialist guided package trip to Arabba.
These are their past client average ratings for that same trip...
Avg. Rating Summary-(Max 5)
Overall - 3
Leading/Guiding/Instructing - 4
Resort suitability rating - 1
Value for money - 4.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hmm. Big disconnect there - how can members be saying that a resort that is fundamentally unsuitable for their purpose is good value for ( not insubstantial) money?
Truly SCGB faithful calibrate money on a different scale...might explain a lot.....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@BobinCH, well that's the guy the SCGB use apparently
https://www.albertodegiuli.com/en/2017/03/off-piste-ski-week-arabba-dolomites-ski-club-great-britain/
If I had to guess the unsuitable bit would be the fact that off piste is "illegal" in the vicinity of the pistes and thus that every objective is somewhat of a commitment. But it might be simply a limited number of members reviewing it and those that consider it entirely suitable just not bothering to leave balancing ratings. Back to the theme of no one cares enough I guess?
Mind you I can see a bit of a problem with the way they are listing the holiday - it's rather being sold on the basis that ski touring and hike to objectives might be an occasional thing whereas the guide's blog above suggests it is in essence what is required. It looks like the sort of thing that a strong lift served off piste skier might want to avoid if they didn't like or couldn't cope with being rinsed on the ascents (which probably describes me at the moment).
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On the rocks wrote: |
TIt looks like the very successful Flaine chalet holidays are no more. These were excellent with the good and consistent coaching and guiding from Yann Westercamp and his team, unlike others Freshtracks holidays where the instructors and guides have been random and often not good. |
Flaine off piste with Yann and Diane by far the best thing about SCGB- brilliant instructors.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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SCGB Director Gerry Aitken rejoiced in the harm done to UK citizens in the ski industry and other damage done to the UK economy writing
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under a new name wrote: |
Blue collar workers were, however, benefitting immensely from the UK's pre-eminent position as a gateway to the EU.
Mostly, by having jobs to wear their blue collars to work to. |
They weren't happy, though, were they? And now they've screwed you over. |
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The latest missive from the SCGB to the non-member contact list is pretty entertaining, but I'm not sure their move into online comedy will rectify the problems they are facing.
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Don’t forget to ensure that you are receiving all our communications over this incredible summer – ensure your e-mail address is up-to-date and contact the team to update as necessary. |
So basically what they are saying is that if you didn't get this email, please contact them to tell them
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This release includes our popular Canazei Intalian Indulgence |
It's always nice to be sure of where you are going - where exactly do you get an "Intalian" experience? Is that a curry in Canazei, or pasta in the Hindu Kush? I know they've made some staff redundant, but surely whoever is left can't be that incompetent?
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New and Improved - Ski Club Travel Insurance. Engineered for winter, perfect for summer! Comprehensive on-snow cover is joined by all your favourite summer activities to offer super year-round travel insurance. Find out more below and upgrade today! |
Well, apart from the usual comment that something can't be both new and improved, it seems that many people are upset about both the "new" insurance and the fact that the "improved" offer doesn't actually work for them any more. Yes, now that SCGB have signed up for it they have to aggressively push the new scheme, but that's going to take a better marketing organisation than they can afford. Nice to see that "all [my] favourite summer activities" are covered - that would indeed be a very comprehensive policy, but I suspect that everything beyond a leisurely walk needs an upgrade at a significant cost - maybe that's what they mean by "upgrade today"? I guess the wingsuit purchase will have to be put on hold for now.
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The Ski Club is seeking to hire a new Finance Manager, following the news that Tanya Moiseyenko will be leaving the Club this summer for pastures new. Tanya's impressive work alongside the Club's finance team has ensured the Club's financial stability throughout this difficult period, and as a result this opportunity represents a challenging but rewarding position to fill. |
I'm struggling to decide where to begin on this one - Tanya Moiseyenko was appointed in September 2019 as Head of Finance (Director of Finance according to LinkedIn), so isn't responsible for the two years of severe losses and dire financial control which has left SCGB in such a poor state, but I think that claiming "financial stability" at a time when they were still haemorrhaging cash is a little wishful, especially as it has essentially only been "not as bad as previously" because they stopped all operations but continued to charge the members full rates. I have no idea whether she was good or not, but to describe the role for her replacement as "challenging" is something of an understatement, while "rewarding" can clearly only mean in a job satisfaction sense, as they're not in a position to pay the going rate for someone who can actively manage a huge financial turnaround.
Don't panic - the orchestra is still playing, and the waiter will be along shortly with G&Ts. If you want ice with that, there's plenty hanging over the promenade deck on the starboard side if you're happy to chip some off yourself.
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Seems rather shameless revisionism to position it as ensuring financial stability while the obvious has been happening. The lady may be entirely blameless as despite the grandiose title may have been little more than a bookkeeper and have had no influence on addressing the bleeding but its hardly been a triumphal period.
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It is a shame the way things are going. Personally I would be happy with a good range of Freshtracks off piste holidays at sensible prices, opportunities for good ILG and facilitation of networking to arrange peer skiing with those of similar ability and aspirations.
Unfortunately the club is being driven into the ground by those seeking to maintain the impossible good old days of funding Reps’ gigs as illegal ski guides for geezonaires at the expense of mere “holiday skiers” and trying desperately to find cash for this by unrealistic insurance deals etc and attempts to fleece the holiday skiers.
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@On the rocks, Sadly, your summary is spot on.
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@ousekjarr, @Dave of the Marmottes, +100x to all of that.
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This release includes our popular Canazei Intalian Indulgence |
It's always nice to be sure of where you are going - where exactly do you get an "Intalian" experience? Is that a curry in Canazei, or pasta in the Hindu Kush? I know they've made some staff redundant, but surely whoever is left can't be that incompetent? |
NOBODY IN THAT ORGANISATION CARES! They can't even be bothered to take notice of spellcheck.
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New and Improved - Ski Club Travel Insurance. Engineered for winter, perfect for summer! Comprehensive on-snow cover is joined by all your favourite summer activities to offer super year-round travel insurance. Find out more below and upgrade today! |
Well, apart from the usual comment that something can't be both new and improved, it seems that many people are upset about both the "new" insurance and the fact that the "improved" offer doesn't actually work for them any more. Yes, now that SCGB have signed up for it they have to aggressively push the new scheme, but that's going to take a better marketing organisation than they can afford. Nice to see that "all [my] favourite summer activities" are covered - that would indeed be a very comprehensive policy, but I suspect that everything beyond a leisurely walk needs an upgrade at a significant cost - maybe that's what they mean by "upgrade today"? I guess the wingsuit purchase will have to be put on hold for now.
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And they are also promoting domestic travel insurance for those staycations. Unless you are a Platinum Member of course - the policy doesn't cover domestic! It's a desperate move and, along with the above, just tells me that the underwriter or broker or both are piling on pressure to make sales, or at least look like you are trying. Quite a few players are pulling out of certain types of personal lines insurance and travel is worst hit. I would not be at all surprised if the likes of ski club are back out in the market looking for an insurer.
Re the FD, I spoke with a director not long after Tanya joined. She was faced with a total rebuild of the financial accounting system. She may well have things under control now but the issues of membership attrition, unprofitable holidays, the office burden, and generally too high overheads remain. Anyone talented will be looking at their career and earnings prospects and updating their Linked In profile in readiness for a swift exit. The GM's salary was published at £80k. Finance Directors earn easily double that so how is it going to work if the incoming FD is a bigger overhead than the GM - what happens there s that the GM starts looking for a raise and the board have little choice but to cave. It's just how the world works.
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@On the rocks, and they need to make them sensible or they will have to start cancelling weeks due to low participation. To put their circa £2k trips in perspective, InTheSnow's reader trip is £1400 all in, including virtually unlimited beer!, to Serre Chevalier with Club Med. Flights, transfers, full board, passes and a host. https://www.inthesnow.com/join-us-on-holiday-to-one-of-frances-top-resorts/
Has the new GM started? I note he is still flagged as CEO of his Mountain Trade Network, but that his partner is moving from the position of CIO to COO. I've worked in some massive multi nationals with 000s of staff and a global network of offices and they had CEO, CIO, and COO but it's pretty ridiculous to have such titles in one man/woman bands run from the spare bedroom
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@Dave of the Marmottes, job spec from their website below:
Line Manager: General Manager
Responsibilities:
The Finance Manager is responsible for ensuring the finance department runs in a smooth and the most efficient way whilst keeping all Ski Club financials up to date and to make changes to the current systems where necessary. We are also looking for a FM who can help with strategic planning of projects, implementation and budget control to help the General Manager grow the businesses.
The FM is responsible for the timely production of detailed and accurate monthly management information for both companies and analysis before presenting to the council. The FM must ensure to review all business costs on a regular basis, producing a detailed cashflow forecast and financial controls are kept up to date at all times.
It is also necessary that statutory requirements are met to produce financial statements and HMRC compliance checks.
Key Accountabilities
Purchase Ledger
• Oversee and review Aged Creditors ledgers on a regular basis
• Checking creditor lists thoroughly and ensuring payment are within the authorised limit for suppliers before authorising payment runs.
• Checking and authorising all multi-currency payments and looking into costs savings where possible.
• Support the General Manager where necessary, including multi currencies and hedging.
Sale Ledger
• Review Aged debtors list for weekly credit control.
Cash Management
• Set up a cashflow forecast with sensitivity analysis for the financial year – both companies
• Update weekly rolling cashflow forecasts -for both companies
• Ensure all bank accounts are optimized for maximum return and reviewed on a regular basis.
Management Reporting
• Prepare and post all monthly journals (currently on Sage)
• Produce the consolidated monthly P&L for Council meeting with analysis where necessary
• Prepare monthly balance sheet pack inclusive of all reconciliations and supporting documents
• Review reconciliations of bank and intercompany accounts, managed by the finance assistant
• Produce monthly consolidated balance sheet with analysis where necessary
Holidays review
• Review Holidays margins and liaise with holiday team to explain variances
• Reconcile Holidays income monthly for CAA/ABTOT and liaise with head of holidays to resolve discrepancies
Budgeting and forecasting
• Liaise with budget holders for monthly reforecast
• Liaise with budget holder to investigate variances to budget and reforecasts.
VAT
• Preparation and submission of quarterly VAT returns in a timely manner and to ensure compliance of accounting records are met.
Audit
• Completion of year-end accounts, including reconciliation and preparing all necessary documents for Auditors.
• Ensure all queries to auditors are answered.
Membership
• Authorise memberships collection
• Check and authorise weekly refunds
• Liaise with membership team for insurance monthly bordereau
Payroll
• Review and prepare monthly payroll for payroll outsourced team
• Liaise with HR officer
• Arrange for statutory payments to HMRC
• Check payroll and ensure payments are met on time
• Administrate Pension scheme and submit monthly contributions to provider
• Administrate any other benefits scheme, like ride to work, childcare voucher
Staff Management
• Line manage and ensure direct report is fully supported in their role
Essential Requirements of the role
• Experienced Accountant
• Experience of using Sage
Desirable Requirements of the role
• Experience of working within the travel industry
• Experience of ATOL/ABTOT
• Experience of TOMs VAT
Skills and Experience
• Qualified or Qualified by experience in ACCA or CIMA
• 3 to 4 years of experience in Management reporting
• Able to manage priorities and deadlines
• Experience in dealing with auditors
• Experience of managing one direct report
• Experience in leisure industry, retail or FMCG preferable
*** for immediate start***
To apply please submit your CV and Cover Letter to recruitment@skiclub.co.uk
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Too easy...
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You know it makes sense.
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@Pruman, They aren't after an FD they are after a management accountant/bookkeeper at 3-4 years experience presumably because that's the salary budget they have to play with. Such a person could possibly provide strategic insight and proactive correction but probably they'll have their hands full providing reports to all and sundry and making sure the day job is done passably well.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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On the rocks wrote: |
The latest (main) tranche of Freshtracks holidays were posted this morning. It looks like the very successful Flaine chalet holidays are no more. These were excellent with the good and consistent coaching and guiding from Yann Westercamp and his team, unlike others Freshtracks holidays where the instructors and guides have been random and often not good. It looks like there is also no Chamonix (Les Houches) chalet this year either. I’m guessing all this is due to not having the reserves to commit to leasing the chalets and paying staff. Now for me there is no reason to go with Freshtracks instead of Snowworks (for example) for guided or instructed off piste holidays. |
I phoned SCGB yesterday about this and was advised that they are still negotiating with the Flaine chalet owners and hope to publish details of the holidays within the next few weeks. Let's hope the chalet owners are not too greedy.
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Poster: A snowHead
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SCGB Director Gerry Aitken wrote
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Yeah, I don’t like you or your bully boy Rejoiner mates. |
Ski Club of Great Brexiteers?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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SCGB Director Gerry Aitken wrote: |
... Clearly, you are less than a man. |
I'm wondering if they have any sort of concept at all of a diversity policy in the SCGB?
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SCGB Director Gerry Aitken showed his utter ignorance of recent UK political history and his keen interest in bringing back the glories of WW2
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We could have got a better deal if not for the Quislings. Like leaving a light on for the Luftwaffe in the blitz. |
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I'm not sure why statements in the Brexit thread keep getting quoted in this one. He is an SCGB director, true, but his Brexit posts are not relevant to this thread, imho. I hope if I ever meet him in any of his SCGB roles he behaves a lot better than he does on Snowheads. Forewarned is forearmed.
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@Jehu Gerry is not to SCGB what Admin is to Snowheads. I understand that many high up in the SCGB may be as dismayed by his posturing as folk on here. The focus on Gerry is an unhelpful distraction from the real problems that the SCGB has brought upon itself, its members and would be members.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, I avoid threads where he his posting because I don't want to read this sort of garbage. You're making it very difficult for me ....
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The crosslinks are relevant because where he posts most of his bile is not publicly searchable. Surely it is relevant for anyone considering joining the SCGB to see what some of its leadership is like?
As for the problems of the organisation it's not hard to see that having such individuals with a high opinion of themselves, a "me first and feck the rest of you" attitude and a severely biased and hateful attitude to any not in their "tribe" might lead to an organisation that is incapable of seeing the wood for the trees or interests of the collective over the select.
And that's before we get to the question of someone who has so actively cheerled and gloated over a policy that has reduced possibilities and introduced much friction into the act of going skiing, working or residing in a ski resort for so many British skiers, all so he can make a few more quid privately.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, you mean something like appointing a general manager under the Council to replace a CEO who the Council failed to supervise, in the hope that the GM can then only do what the Council tells them to, but can still bail them out and return them to the sunlit uplands of deep powder and off-piste leaders in blue jackets?
First task for the GM - explain to the Council the need to wind down the organisation, repay the few remaining assets to the members, and turn off the lights? Or agree a completely different set of Terms of Reference for their role, where they are actually able to manage the organisation in a way which guarantees a (very limited) future role for it, rather than being just an order taker from the assorted band of uniquely unqualified people elected into a position of power on the basis of how many zombie members ticked their box with no idea of who they were?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, I avoid threads where he his posting because I don't want to read this sort of garbage. You're making it very difficult for me .... |
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The crosslinks are relevant because where he posts most of his bile is not publicly searchable. |
Deliberately putting something that is not publicly searchable into a fully public domain, and without using it for further relevant discussion or criticism, is not necessarily covered by a "Fair Use" interpretation. If it isn't, the cross-poster would be breaching both this site's T&Cs and copyright law.
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