 Poster: A snowHead
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I've just acquired skis fitted with Tyrolia Free Flex Plus bindings. Midway between the toe and heel units is a screw which can be turned through 180 degrees and is labelled "180° activation". Anyone know what this means? If I adjust the setting am I likely to notice any difference in how the binding or ski behaves, or is it just a bit of marketing with no real-life benefits?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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It stiffens up the link betwen the toe and heel piece, and therefore the flexof the mid section of the ski. In the "tight" position it stabilises the ski quicker after say a compression, or making high energy short radius turns.
Net effect is that it will give you more controllable, predictable energy and rebound when turned to the "tight" or "loaded" position, and reduces chatter at high speeds.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| veeeight wrote: |
It stiffens up the link betwen the toe and heel piece, and therefore the flexof the mid section of the ski. In the "tight" position it stabilises the ski quicker after say a compression, or making high energy short radius turns.
Net effect is that it will give you more controllable, predictable energy and rebound when turned to the "tight" or "loaded" position, and reduces chatter at high speeds. |
Thanks for that. In the "open" position would its benefit be that it allows more/softer flex in the central part of the ski?
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rob@rar.org.uk, I have the same binding on my Heads, and I leave it in the open position - they are stiff enough as it is!
Which skis did you get?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
rob@rar.org.uk, I have the same binding on my Heads, and I leave it in the open position - they are stiff enough as it is!
Which skis did you get? |
A pair of next season's Volkl Karmas. I guess I'll also leave the bindings in the open position, although I'll be curious to see if I can detect any difference when the are in the tight position.
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rob@rar.org.uk, I'd be interested to see if you could notice the difference on the Karmas - mine are on the iXRC1100SW.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| rob@rar.org.uk, I'd be interested to see if you could notice the difference on the Karmas - mine are on the iXRC1100SW. |
As most of my skiing is just blundering around I tend not to notice subtle differences in equipment (or the way it's set up). I'm just hoping that I notice a difference between the Karmas and my slalom skis 
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marc gledhill, rob@rar.org.uk,
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That's a good point, wouldn't want to mix and match when I go to the ski locker in the morning! Or perhaps I wouldn't notice
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Try it ! Then you'll really see how much difference there is....... 
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Thanks for that. In the "open" position would its benefit be that it allows more/softer flex in the central part of the ski?
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Yup. and it will still allow the toe/heel pieces to move relative to each other to maintain a consistent forward pressure.
I tend to leave mine in the open position (iXRC 1200SW, iSuperShapes) unless going into a racecourse in the groomers.
Speaking of noticing subtle things - just tried the new Salomon Z12 bindings - they have dispensed with the traditional adjustable "wings" on the toepiece, and the vertical adjuster. All automatic now, and the spheric thingy wotsit has gone too. Replaced with a slider AFD.
And oh boy. Can you now feel the front of the ski under your foot! Much more direct connection and control of the ski now that the spheric wotsit has gone from the likes of the S912 binding!
The downside is that it's now on a rail (Pilot system gone hurrah) - and much heavier.
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