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The infinitive's a bit general, I guess - the other rather more direct. Is there another difference I've missed? One can't be too careful with these expressions. One of my Francophone friends commented on a video of my granddaughter being really horrible to her little brother - "Petite emmerdeuse!!". One learns things, that way. Or things overheard in shops.
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@pam w, Enculer is rather rude
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And enculeur less rude?
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Perhaps not Laughing
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Difficult isn't it. Talking to a friend earlier and she said something which she said wasn't proper french, what chance had I "Tu te re z’aime".
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BobinCH wrote:
@Weathercam, they’re relying on you to act “responsibly” Very Happy


Fat chance Laughing


Never could spell "resonsibely" let alone act it Laughing

Think confinement is going to be a tad more demanding this coming week as the weather's taking a change for the worse Sad

Has been pretty good with eating out on the terrace every day and suntan nigh on equivalent to summer already!

This was my attempt at making a Xmas tree pattern on Strava last Friday



Yesterday, knowing could be last decent hot sunny day went out on the bike to cycle up and down the road, and did a couple of U-turns in the road trying to make my mind up which way to start just as a blue gendarme van came towards me, I waved and signalled where my house was as they carried on their merry way.

I was half expecting them to come back at some point as I judiciously stuck to the hour and one km from home clocking up 32km seven times up and down past home.

https://www.strava.com/activities/3316475003
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I do hope authorities in France, and here, think hard about how best to ensure willing compliance with the rules as lockdowns are gradually relaxed. If we are to be restricted for months, as seems likely, rules, like not being allowed to sit on a park bench in the sun, on your own, or not being able to cycle or walk on your own, will need to go if they're to retain public support.
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I'm going to have a little walk up the mountain today. The gendarmes have confirmed that a couple of low paths are OK. I've figured out how far I can go and stick to 1km.
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The French Prime minister Edouard Philippe is going to speak tonight with more details about the end of the lockdown. He's had a furious row with Pres. Macron as he had not been informed of the 11th May deadline before Macron's speech and is furious. He wants out of the govt but can't leave at the moment.

Anyway they still haven't decided how to implement Macron's plan. Schools are a very difficult subject as many kids are looked after by grand parents during term time. It seems primary schools will come out of confinement first with kids attending on alternate days or weeks (seems like the Brits have the same plan so I guess everyone is copying everyone else in this, it is more the blind leading the blind than le royaume des aveugles ou les borgnes sont rois.

There is talk of making "les veux" sign a form saying they won't use hospitals if they get sick if they don't want to be confined. After legalizing the euthanasia drug "rivotril" for elderly people with "respiratory distress" this will be another thing that won't make the govt. popular with the seniors.
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Also talk about opening schools in less effected areas.
Really difficult decisions for the government to make. Dammed if they do, dammed if they don't.
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No return to "semi" normality before the summer of 2021 in France.
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No return to "semi" normality before the summer of 2021 in France.



Is that from government announcement ?
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@ringingmaster, this is a good read following on from French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and health minister Olivier Véran joint press conference on Sunday night.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200419/living-with-the-virus-the-plan-for-life-in-france-after-lockdown
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davidof wrote:

There is talk of making "les veux" sign a form saying they won't use hospitals if they get sick if they don't want to be confined. After legalizing the euthanasia drug "rivotril" for elderly people with "respiratory distress" this will be another thing that won't make the govt. popular with the seniors.


Sounds like a very grown up way of doing things. Make your own mind up as to what risk you are prepared to bear. Can't see how it is compatible with good samaritan and medical ethics principles however, and easy to rabble rouse against as bullying and discrimination against elderly.
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ringingmaster wrote:
davidof wrote:
No return to "semi" normality before the summer of 2021 in France.



Is that from government announcement ?


Yes Edouard Philippe.
So clearly they don't envisage next winter being like last winter.

Meanwhile, social distancing Norway yesterday



and Sweden

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@Weathercam, Interesting read - although sadly seems to confirm my view that my summer plans are off
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
davidof wrote:

There is talk of making "les veux" sign a form saying they won't use hospitals if they get sick if they don't want to be confined. After legalizing the euthanasia drug "rivotril" for elderly people with "respiratory distress" this will be another thing that won't make the govt. popular with the seniors.


Sounds like a very grown up way of doing things. Make your own mind up as to what risk you are prepared to bear. Can't see how it is compatible with good samaritan and medical ethics principles however, and easy to rabble rouse against as bullying and discrimination against elderly.


that seems to be off the cards now but plans won't be announced for another 2 weeks.
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@Boris, @Boris, I am still living in hope that a driving over break is still going to be possible
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@ringingmaster, this is a good read following on from French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and health minister Olivier Véran joint press conference on Sunday night.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200419/living-with-the-virus-the-plan-for-life-in-france-after-lockdown


Thanks - interesting read
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Even The Parisien seagulls have had enough and are fighting back Laughing

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/les-goelands-attaquent-les-drones-de-la-prefecture-de-police-de-paris-25-06-2019-8102361.php?fbclid=IwAR0gh4yNEfI9ZZYiuIcLM6PDJdeAcWv48wXjEN330VlzhhbWaCmZSUK-D9I
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Isere prefect has extended the ban on any mountain activity in the department until the 24th May at the earliest.
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McDonalds anyone?

https://www.ledauphine.com/economie/2020/04/21/le-mc-do-rouvre-des-kilometres-de-bouchons-et-trois-heures-d-attente
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@davidof, what's the rationale?
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@davidof, what's the rationale?


No idea, social distancing maybe?
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davidof wrote:
Isere prefect has extended the ban on any mountain activity in the department until the 24th May at the earliest.


Jeeesss hopefully our dude down here in the Hautes Alpes is not thinking along the same lines, hopefully, more pro-active about a resumption of tourist activities etc

https://www.ledauphine.com/societe/2020/04/21/ils-demandent-une-reprise-de-l-activite-touristique
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davidof wrote:
Isere prefect has extended the ban on any mountain activity in the department until the 24th May at the earliest.


Jeeesss hopefully our dude down here in the Hautes Alpes is not thinking along the same lines, hopefully, more pro-active about a resumption of tourist activities etc

https://www.ledauphine.com/societe/2020/04/21/ils-demandent-une-reprise-de-l-activite-touristique


Hopefully they'll close the frontier otherwise the Col du Lauteret is going to be rammed on the 11th.
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Sounds like a serious case of French mayor syndrome, there's a lot of it about at the moment.
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davidof wrote:
Weathercam wrote:
davidof wrote:
Isere prefect has extended the ban on any mountain activity in the department until the 24th May at the earliest.


Jeeesss hopefully our dude down here in the Hautes Alpes is not thinking along the same lines, hopefully, more pro-active about a resumption of tourist activities etc

https://www.ledauphine.com/societe/2020/04/21/ils-demandent-une-reprise-de-l-activite-touristique


Hopefully they'll close the frontier otherwise the Col du Lauteret is going to be rammed on the 11th.


Surely from yours you'd just pop up into Savoie. I'd only have to go as far as La Grave Very Happy
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This is from Fancebleus twitter page. Which depts can commence deconfinement 11 May. How accurate it is I don't know. Isère and Savoie ok but not Haute Savoie or Hautes Alpes. Sorry @Weathercam,



https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/societe/carte-decouvrez-les-departements-qui-pourraient-sortir-du-confinement-des-le-11-mai-1587476463


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Talking about La Grave, was on the phone to my friends who run the Hotel Edelweiss there as we're doing another web project together.

And sounds like a very good community spirit going on in the village.

But talking to them looking forward it sounds a nightmare as a large % of their bookings for Summer have cancelled as they have many International groups not just from the USA but NZ and Australia coming for cycling.

That said many have been asking about availability for September (when many French hotels are closed) and they're already fully booked for September so maybe the French will have to adjust their Summer High Season mentality and actually stay open right through to Toussaint to make up for shortfalls in Summer, but I suspect that will be a feckin miracle Laughing
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@Claude B, that makes no sense when you compare that map with the Official santepubliquefrance.fr map of infections etc

https://geodes.santepubliquefrance.fr/index.php#bbox=-169076,5945339,1279669,775134&c=indicator&f=0&i=covid_hospit.hosp&s=2020-04-21&t=a01&view=map2

And Bouches-du-Rhône which on your map is eligible for de-containment and yet is probably the worst affected Dept in the South 1,056 ?

Hautes Alpes is on 41 , Isere 223, Savoie 86
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@Weathercam, https://twitter.com/francebleu/status/1252636651274330115?s=20
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A french friend, who sent that to me in the first place, told me that other factors are being taken into consideration setting the dates. One she mentioned was concentration of 2nd home owners. Others too.
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Came back from my bike ride to a good message from KenX Madeye-Smiley

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Run-walk-cycle-New-post-confinement-rules-in-France-listed-by-sports-ministry-after-May-11
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But still restricted to an hour?
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maybe the French will have to adjust their Summer High Season mentality and actually stay open right through to Toussaint to make up for shortfalls in Summer, but I suspect that will be a feckin miracle

Will be interesting to see whether it pans out that way - makes sense. Here in the UK I'm hoping for an Indian summer and some late season sailing. Always the same three-person crew, and we rarely use marinas, so it's a very low risk activity for us.
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I too hope I get on my boat in early autumn.

Incidentally, the inimitable Michael O'Leary of Ryanair seems to be thinking that 80 per cent of flights could possibly resume by October. Have to hope he's right. See:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52394433?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/crz4004j5zet/air-travel&link_location=live-reporting-story
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I watched Edouard Philippe's deconfinement speech this pm. Thankfully not too long. It is a partial deconfinement and he left it open for Prefects or Mayors to tighten up on national rules as they see fit.


1. French football season is over (won't please the French footie association)
2. No sporting events with more than 5000 people before September
3. You will not be allowed to go more than 100km from home by car/train but won't need a form to go out
4. Groups no bigger than 10
5. beaches still closed but parks to open
6. only primary and middle schools to reopen
7. mask wearing to be mandatory in certain cases (public transport)
8. expect a new lockdown over the summer
9. most shops to open but not cafes, restaurants, cinemas etc to remain shut
10. you'll be able to do individual sports, 1km limit to be lifted but don't go far from home

Next rdv is the start of June for further measures (maybe some professional lycees will open).
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Fin des attestations sauf pour les déplacements à plus de 100 km de chez soi (qui ne devront être faits que pour le travail ou motif familial impérieux".

Pas de sport de contact.

Is ski touring deemed a contact sport Laughing

And this is obviously sensible

Those who test positive must be isolated for 14 days either at home or in special accommodation
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