 Poster: A snowHead
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Ignoring government instructions is leading to an ever escalating set of directives.
We are still working evacuating people to GVA, but at the end of that we have to get home as well!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@RobinS, sounds really tough for all concerned. Good luck with it all. Shocking stories from France, with huge announcements lurching out every moment.
I hope HMG is going to do better, in its daily Press briefings, to explain the thinking behind the measures being implemented, because they are only going to work as a result of a societal consensus, not more and more emergency powers and troops on the streets.
They also seriously need to calm panic. The "eat and drink and be merry for tomorrow we may die" mentality isn't conducive to sensible behaviour, any more than the "catching Cov-19 is a death sentence for the over 70s" hysteria. There's a difficult balance to be struck between complacency and crying wolf.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| Pamski wrote: |
| @Weathercam, i thought I have read somewhere that ski touring is, if not banned is not to be encouraged, as although the lifts are now closed, and it must be lovely for you tourers, as if there are accidents you will be diverting the emergency service from other duties. |
You haven't misunderstood. And bragging about it and encouraging others to do the same on social media is even less cool. |
Well said @clarky999 - we need a lot of things right now but diverting resources to rescue a ski tourer is definitely not one.
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I think we all need to be careful about self-righteous finger pointing. There are various activities which are as hazardous - or more hazardous - as ski touring, including cycling instead of using public transport, climbing in the Cairngorms and even, perhaps, staying home getting pissed and tripping over the cat.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Been down to Bourg d'Oisans this morning shopping. Not too bad as I got there but getting busier and busier and by the time I'd finished there was a big queue outside waiting to be allowed in. Big queues at the tills but the french don't really like self service tills so I got through relatively quickly. Most of the staff and some of the customers were wearing masks.
A lot of cars leaving too although there are still quite a few people milling around.
I'm going to do something tomorrow, possibly snowshoeing. But on a very easy walking piste that I know very well. Possibly even on touring skis (but not alone). The return is on an easy blue piste which is still freshly groomed. The local advice is to take care, I believe it can be done responsibly and as risk free as other activities otherwise I wouldn't do it.
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Missus queued for an hour at the local Casino supermarket. They only let in 100 shoppers at a time too.
I'm glad I panic bought 2 weeks ago.
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talk now of blockiing netflix, fortnight, youtube and something called pronhub during working hours
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 Personally I think there's a case for stopping daytime TV - make those of us confined to barracks work our bodies and brains a little harder.
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I'm considering what DIY I can do given that it isn't possible to buy anything here now. I've plenty of paint and other bits and bobs which will enable me to get a few things done.
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@pam w, what’s wrong with people exercising a little self discipline. Let’s start behaving like sensible adults
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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what’s wrong with people exercising a little self discipline
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Absolutely nothing. A ban on daytime TV would help! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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They would then have some incentive to get off their backsides. Might even enjoy it!
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Easy for me to say, mind, as I don't watch daytime TV and hardly watch in the evenings, either, come to that. A couple of hours a week. For me, the push to getting off my backside would be turning off the internet!
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You know it makes sense.
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In these days of streaming services like Netflix, Prime, iPlayer, etc, the concept of daytime TV doesn't really make sense for lots of people. Other than the news and some sport (mainly F1) I can't remember the last time I watched TV as it was being broadcast live to air.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Claude B wrote: |
| I'm considering what DIY I can do given that it isn't possible to buy anything here now. I've plenty of paint and other bits and bobs which will enable me to get a few things done. |
Amusingly, this is one of the highest risks in UK for A+E visits. Closely it follows weekend sports participation. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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I'm just reading on FB that Post Offices are closing for at least 3 weeks, from 11 am this morning. Fortunately I collected my delivery of my new credit/debit cards just before then.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@rob@rar, I like the anticipation of sitting down to watch or listen to something I enjoy at the earliest possible moment. (Currently just Newscast and Homeland and - there really is no help in me  - The Archers.)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yeah, falling off ladders....
I'm old, @rob@rar, by "daytime TV" I was thinking really of all the means by which stuff is delivered to our screens, including the stuff @davidof referenced
That would improve the health of the nation no end!! Limit us to a couple of hours a day.
Might happen anyway, if workers in the power supply industry start falling by the wayside.
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| @rob@rar, I like the anticipation of sitting down to watch or listen to something I enjoy at the earliest possible moment. (Currently just Newscast and Homeland and - there really is no help in me - The Archers.) |
Jane listens to The Archers, often live. For just about everything else we stream, and often binge. I'm re-watching The West Wing for the umpteenth time, which now seems more like fantasy than it ever has rather than the docu-fiction as it was created.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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All the offices in our science park have been closed by govt. order from today.
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Jet 2 are cheeky monkeys - emailed on Saturday to say my 22/3 flight from GVA to Leeds is "suspended" and asked me to fill in a form. Q1: Are you in the UK or abroad? Answer - I'm in the UK (wasn't due out til Wednesday on BA). Q2: How did you get back - Jet2 flight or other? Answer...erm...I'd best put "other".
Just had an email saying that I cancelled my flight no refund is due! Eh? I didn't (and haven't) cancelled anything! I am assuming my trip's off (hotel has cancelled and Jet 2 aren't going to fly me home) but I've not cancelled anything.
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Attention Les conditions actuelles sont excellentes et la météo très clémente. MAIS les services de secours en montagne vous déconseillent vivement de sortir en montagne ! La prise en charge de victimes va se révéler extrêmement difficile au sein des centres hospitaliers. Aussi ne surchargeons pas les urgences ! Soyons citoyens, differons nos loisirs
Please note The current conditions are excellent and the weather is excellent. BUT mountain rescue services strongly advise you not to go out in the mountains! Caring for victims will prove to be extremely difficult in hospitals. So let's not overload emergencies! Let us be citizens, let us defer our leisure
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Another message from the Briancon hospital:
"due to the current urgence with Covid-19 we cannot treat any non urgent cases at the moment, if you arrive after a mountain accident it will be seen very badly"
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@davidof, yes I saw that a while ago. Just a walk then.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Claude B wrote: |
| @davidof, yes I saw that a while ago. Just a walk then. |
They are worried about climbing, mountaineering and ski mountaineering in particular, the pghm have been out and about and seen people doing some sketchy stuff today. Up to people to decide where they draw the line based on their own abilities.
Witnessed a parapente rescue just now, the helicopter flies almost daily missions to pick people out of the trees.
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You know it makes sense.
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I'm not likely to do any of those
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I'm thinking either snowshoeing up and down a marked walking path or touring up the same and skiing down a blue piste while it's still in good nick.
Aprés at 5 today at a friends bar aka sejour
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Poster: A snowHead
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From Chamonix PGMH on Facebook (automatic translation):
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The sky is blue, the snow is here and the mountains are beautiful. Great is the temptation to take a walk. However, the present situation and above all to come is such that every resource, every minute that will be devoted by medical teams to mountain relief could be used to deal with the ongoing COVID-19 epidemic, and therefore , in fine, most likely at the expense of another patient. In other words, from now on, every rescue is potentially an extra relief for hospital services.
Although the rescue service at Chamonix Mont Blanc remains fully insured, we will send the message of our fellow mountain rescue doctors who specifically seek responsibility for everyone. Pending the next official instructions, we call for awareness of mountain practitioners and recommend them to minimize, preferably to suspend, their activities during the crisis. |
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Came across some people in Cham sud with skis who said they were going to skin up Le Tour and build a kicker. Build a f****ing kicker! Vaguely knew a couple so told them they were idiots.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ok as yet we are not in lock down, at least for the next three or four hours.
Yesterday and today all we have done is skin up the empty deserted pistes, which are still beautifully groomed and no one working on them, we have also shared them with snow-shoers, other ski tourers and walkers and a massive chapeau to the guy running up to the very top of Cucumelle.
So the ski down is very mild and not at all challenging, just like a good piste ski on blue/red runs though quite superb in the transforming corduroy, I also don't go flat out as I have the dogs with me.
And no BS as I did a loop leaving Monetier and skiing back to Villeneuve I bumped into the Chief of Piste Security, Cedric who we interviewed before Xmas, and he asked me what/ where I've been and he said "Chapeau" as it's quite a long circuit and climbing.
If I knew I was going to return to all this flack, then I should have asked him his POV!
Mate who has been staying with us past five weeks and has spent the last five days in ADH returned here briefly to get his belongings to then go back to ADH to get a friend and with others, they are getting out ASAP.
He did say the Lautaret was rammed with tourers, no parking spaces available.
So yes there is a fine balance as to what is deemed to be risky, and I like to think I'm not taking any risks currently as I'm not backcountry ski touring, not least last week it was absolute shite, and as has been mentioned I've probably more chance of falling over drunk
So many geezonaires are now leaving here, some are over 70 which I find surprising going back to the UK and possibly facing 4 months in quarantine.
For sure dependent on what happens tonight we might be in lockdown and only allowed out for essentials, so does that include taking the dogs out for a long walk whilst wearing skis
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| davidof wrote: |
Pres. Macron will make an announcement tonight at 20h00. French medical staff are pretty much agreed in calling for a full lockdown. The chief medical officer has said the same a few hours ago.
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Claims that it will be a 45 day total lockdown. From 8pm tonight you'll have 48 hours to get home then a full army mobilization to stop people moving. Curfew at 6pm. Fines and Prison for those not obeying the law.
Sounds drastic so we'll see what is really announced.
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| Weathercam wrote: |
| I also think that the local fuzz will not be so prevalent here! |
Are they still all in isolation ?
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It is interesting that the govt. is still denying rumours of a total lockdown but whenever I hear someone squeal #fakenews I doubt what they are telling me. (The rumours come from people preparing the laws to put all this in place and the 45 day limit is what our M.D. told us this morning and he's in direct contact with the govt. so there does seem to be some correspondence. Our MD told us the offices will be closed for 45 days).
Anyway you are better off where you are, at least you'll have a view of the Alps, although the sea is also nice to look at.
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Having an apocalypse party on our balcony. Everyone we know is now out of work. Looking at abandoning Chamonix and heading back to the UK tomorrow or Wednesday. People here are begging for lifts home.
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| davidof wrote: |
Pres. Macron will make an announcement tonight at 20h00.
Claims that it will be a 45 day total lockdown. From 8pm tonight you'll have 48 hours to get home then a full army mobilization to stop people moving. Curfew at 6pm. Fines and Prison for those not obeying the law. |
Where did you get this information from? And surely they wouldn't stop foreigners from leaving? We are due to fly home on Thursday morning, which would be just beyond 48 hours.
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