Poster: A snowHead
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Hey. I am looking to take the plunge and buy skis for the first time and would appreciate any advice or recommendations.
About me:
Height: 188cm
Weight: 86kg
Age: 27
Boots: Salomon s/max 120
Skiing style / ability: I spend most of my time on piste. Style wise I tend to prefer carving with a mid length turn shape but like short turns on steeper sections of black runs or where runs have become heavily moguled. I do also need to be able to ski at a more relaxed pace when with certain people.
Last rental ski: rossignol hero elite multiturn carbon in a 175cm. Overall I enjoyed this ski but there were times it felt a little soft.
What I want: a ski that suits the above style and that has some headroom to allow me to progress further.
Thanks in advance for the help!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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175 seems very short for your height carving. 180+ I’d think.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If you like the Hero Elite Multiturn then look no further than the Hero Elite + Ti. I had the Allturns but they felt a little soft on occasion, got a stunning deal on a second hand +Ti and love it, sold my allturns.
The +Ti's are stunning, hold a lovely edge, do fast short turns beautifully and also open up into longer smoother turns easily. They were also great for just fooling around on the nursery slopes with my grandchildren.
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I would look at the Dynastar Speed Zone 12Ti.
I also think, for your stats, you should try a 180.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I had been looking at the hero elite plus ti online in the 181cm and also the head supershape i rally in the 177cm length also. Anyone had experience on both skis able to provide any insights as to the differences/similarities?
Also, I had slight concern about how easy it is to ski a more performance oriented ski like these slowly when I need to or how easy it is to simply edge and slide on icy steeps where you get caught in poor snow conditions. Is this something I should worry about with these skis?
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Johnkiely5 wrote: |
Thanks for the suggestions. I had been looking at the hero elite plus ti online in the 181cm and also the head supershape i rally in the 177cm length also. Anyone had experience on both skis able to provide any insights as to the differences/similarities?
Also, I had slight concern about how easy it is to ski a more performance oriented ski like these slowly when I need to or how easy it is to simply edge and slide on icy steeps where you get caught in poor snow conditions. Is this something I should worry about with these skis? |
IMO. The Heads will be a bit more forgiving and the Hero Elite have more "Slalom Like" performance.
I have skied on the Magnums, which I believe will have a similar feel to the iRally....I haven't skied on the Rossignols, so I'm working from the feedback I've read....but both should be great fun.
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Old Fartbag wrote: |
Johnkiely5 wrote: |
Thanks for the suggestions. I had been looking at the hero elite plus ti online in the 181cm and also the head supershape i rally in the 177cm length also. Anyone had experience on both skis able to provide any insights as to the differences/similarities?
Also, I had slight concern about how easy it is to ski a more performance oriented ski like these slowly when I need to or how easy it is to simply edge and slide on icy steeps where you get caught in poor snow conditions. Is this something I should worry about with these skis? |
IMO. The Heads will be a bit more forgiving and the Hero Elite have more "Slalom Like" performance.
I have skied on the Magnums, which I believe will have a similar feel to the iRally....I haven't skied on the Rossignols, so I'm working from the feedback I've read....but both should be great fun. |
Thanks Old Fartbag. From your experience on the magnum what were they like when just cruising? Or are these a ski I'll have to be constantly tipping on edge and skiing aggressively?
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Johnkiely5 wrote: |
Old Fartbag wrote: |
Johnkiely5 wrote: |
Thanks for the suggestions. I had been looking at the hero elite plus ti online in the 181cm and also the head supershape i rally in the 177cm length also. Anyone had experience on both skis able to provide any insights as to the differences/similarities?
Also, I had slight concern about how easy it is to ski a more performance oriented ski like these slowly when I need to or how easy it is to simply edge and slide on icy steeps where you get caught in poor snow conditions. Is this something I should worry about with these skis? |
IMO. The Heads will be a bit more forgiving and the Hero Elite have more "Slalom Like" performance.
I have skied on the Magnums, which I believe will have a similar feel to the iRally....I haven't skied on the Rossignols, so I'm working from the feedback I've read....but both should be great fun. |
Thanks Old Fartbag. From your experience on the magnum what were they like when just cruising? Or are these a ski I'll have to be constantly tipping on edge and skiing aggressively? |
I found they had a lot of "headroom" and could be cruised or blasted.
I'm light, at 10 Stone (5'10")- so don't get on with very damp, stiff skis, as I have to be going fast all the time to bend them....which is why I got on with the Magnums and didn't really like some Blizzard Quattros, which felt too planky. For reference, I skied the Magnums in a 170.
The Heads are very shaped, so prefer being on edge - but are versatile enough to be skidded.
If you can, try and test before buying, as you are taller and heavier than me and thus might prefer something with the stiffness of the Speed Zone 12s (which is why I suggested them).
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Perfect. Thanks guys. Based on this they both sound like great options but one common piece of advise is to try before I buy.
Think I'll wait until I'm back in resort and try a few pairs over the course of a few days and buy my favourites. Will probably be more expensive but at least I'll have a pair I love. Thanks for the advice.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Hi all
I share the same stats and style as the OP with one exception. I am 178 rather than 188. Would the 167 be the right lenght?
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@GarryC, There is no definitive correct answer that anyone can give you. It all depends on a whole host of factors of which height and weight are just two. For me (178cm &100kg) the Hero Elite + in the 167cm length matches exactly the type of skiing that I want to do , on hard to firm pistes. For the days when there is some loose fluffy snow around I have a second pair of skis which are both wider(88cm) and longer(180cm) because those suit how I want to ski on those days. There are plenty of on-line charts which give recommendations for combinations of ski type, skiing style and ability which are a good place to start. There is one here at Glisshop which is as good a place as any to start. https://www.glisshop.co.uk/tutorial/choose-length-alpine-ski/
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You know it makes sense.
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GarryC wrote: |
Hi all
I share the same stats and style as the OP with one exception. I am 178 rather than 188. Would the 167 be the right lenght? |
Weight plays a much bigger role than height.....and the construction of the ski, along with preference, will determine how short/long you can go.....so the fact you are 10 cm shorter will not be that significant (everything else being similar).
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