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New skis to replace Icelantic Nomad 105

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My beloved Icelantic Nomads are retiring - sadly not due to any issue with the skis but because I’ve destroyed 2 sets of bindings and can’t redrill them without moving my boot position too much. Compared to previous Salomon and Rossignol skis the Icelantics have been so much better quality and the edges and bases have survived 12 years of use brilliantly. Plus I love the mad graphics!

I’ve ascertained that my style of skiing needs heavier duty bindings so I’m going with Look Pivots.

I could happily get another pair - they are beautiful skis - but I’m interested in other options - perhaps a bit more flex / softer tips would be nice (mine are from 2008 so this might already be the case with newer models), but I have gotten thinking about other options. For some reason all the skis I like the look of are handmade in the USA, or maybe I’m just a big brand avoidance snob...anyway after a freeride / freestyle ski with around a 105 waist, good stability at speed but agile - I like being able to turn fast especially in trees or in moguls.
Other options I’ve considered are:

Lib Tech UFO 105 - interested in any first hand experience of Magnetraction as it looks really interesting tech.

ON3P, Movement and 4FRNT skis

Or going overboard and full custom - Folsom skis look amazing.

Interested in views from anyone who is similarly big brand averse and especially anyone who’s skied any skis with Magnetraction edges.

Thanks!
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I ain't no expert, and it is a big brand. But a Volkl Mantra just seems to fit so closely to your stated requirements, that you should at least try some imho... I think you'll love them. (Like most everybody does)

e.g when in the market for a car like a VW golf,..... it's so hard to beat a VW Golf.
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Not out of the question...but compared to mass produced skis my Icelantics have been on a completely different level quality wise. I’ve found exactly the same with kitesurf boards - a quality handmade board wipes the floor compared with factory produced stuff. Standard Mantra is too narrow for my liking but there is a wider version.
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Also really interested to find someone who has skied a Lib Tech ski with magnetraction edges. The idea of a ski that will blast through the off piste but still have really good grip on ice is very appealing.
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@Andrewlcarpenter, ive been a fan of exotic brands for years , but this year have been skiing the atomic bent chetler 100 , great build and graphics , and a really playful allrounder

on3p woodsman 108 getting rave reviews

https://www.kyeshapes.com , some beautiful skis coming from this guy

my son rated his lib tech board with magnetraction , but don't know much about their skis
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I did think the Atomic Bent Chetler looked interesting. Like the look of those Kye Shapes skis!
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ive got nomad 105s from last year and they are certainly pretty soft. nice to ski in deep conditions but pretty awful in anything hard packed or icy. the Head core 105 or stockli stormrider 105 may suit you.
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Replace the bindings with the same model/hole pattern? - if necessary Quiver killing them if there isn't still a viable thread.

Alternately spyderjon can advise on hole overlap but I think most skis handle 3 mounts if hole spacing is possible.

Stick the Whitedot Delinquent (Altum 104) on you consider list.
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Strange - my 2008 Nomads are the stiffest skis I have owned other than a pair of GS Race skis I briefly owned before snapping the edge on a rock on about the 2nd day I skied them. They aren't the best on super icy stuff but hard packed and tanking it at speed / hard carving turns seem to suit them very well.
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I have broken the bindings twice and am not happy replacing them again. The newer Salomon STH 12 seems to be a much more sensible design with stronger rear screw attachments on the back binding but I'm not sure if the screw placement is the same. I have looked at other bindings using a template in a shop, but it means moving my boots a fair distance forwards or backwards, which I'm not happy to do.
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Blister has just done a good in depth review of the Altum 104s, maybe of interest?

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2020-2021-whitedot-altum-104
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Replaced my Nomads with Shamans years ago and never looked back. Just found a brand new pair at a knock down price Very Happy
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I’d be surprised if the Shamans performed much away from deep snow? I’d be interested in Pioneers if staying Icelantic although I don’t approve of the sensible graphics....
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Still can’t believe there’s nobody on here that have experience of magnetraction edges on skis (ie Lib Tech as nobody else is doing them...)
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BertieG wrote:
Replaced my Nomads with Shamans years ago and never looked back. Just found a brand new pair at a knock down price Very Happy


Where - could be interested at the right price as I found my Shamans the most versatile ski ever.

Re LibTech not sure thay have distribution in the UK for NAS. Even in the US they are a distinctly niche sight i.e. far less common than Icelantic , ON3P , Liberty etc etc
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I think they’re more known for their snowboards.
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I’ve got some Down Throwdown 105’s this year, mounted with pivot 14’s. I’ve ridden the TD 89 for a couple of years and needed a larger width for outside of the park. Superb skis with stunning graphics! Only come in 182 length and only a limited run of about 50 pairs each year if I remember correctly. Cheaper than most skis as well as they sell direct.
www.downskis.com
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@Andrewlcarpenter, For me the Shamans are better in every way, neither ski is much good on hard icy snow. The Shaman is not just a powder ski it is brilliant fun on any type of soft snow including corduroy and slush.
@Dave of the Marmottes, sadly i think I got the last pair https://www.sportex.sk/en/icelantic-shaman-skis-2015.html
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I agree performance on icy snow isn't great. I usually use this as an excuse to go straight down those bits and start turning again later on...! Down skis look nice and I did have the Throwdown on a shortlist although its out of stock right now so would presumably need to wait until next year...this is partly why I was interested in the Lib Tech ski as if I can get the float from a 105 waist, probably better powder performance because of longer softer tips than the Nomad, and reasonably decent performance on poor / icy conditions it seems like the perfect ski for me!
As things stand unless I'm persuaded otherwise I'm still going for the Lib Tech! Only reviews I have found were very favourable...
Great deal on the Shamans though! Weirdly the Shaman (Limited Edition) is one of the few skis not sold out on the Icelantic website, and they appear to have discontinued it, so it's not obviously one of their more popular skis.
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@BertieG, Too short for me anyway.

The Shaman was incredibly popular for a niche ski but you have to remember it's a 12 year old design at least so not surprising it has been discontinued. They at least added rocker to the Nomad to refresh it.
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Given that the Nomad has been far and away the best ski I’ve owned, there is a definite argument for getting another pair - now you point it out the tip and tail rocker has changed quite a bit from mine so it could be a fair bit different.
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j skis the metal fits what you're after. id try the new nomads before buying. they are a park/ jibbing powder ski.
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I have the J skis on my list but I'm not all that keen on heavy skis. I agree the shape of the Nomad has changed a lot, but that is pretty much the shape of all of the freeride / freestyle oriented all mountain skis these days including J skis The Metal. The J skis have an even longer tip - 45cm long ffs!
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If u are still after nomads I’m going to be selling mine as I’ve replaced them. Bought them last year done maybe 3 weeks on them. They’re the blue ones with the ship that goes across both skis. Cool looking skis, 181cm. Open to offers
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