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Coronavirus - Les Contamines

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Radio Val D'Isere reporting the Tourist Info Office has been inundated by questions re the outbreak in Les C. They are quite scathing about social media spreading rumours and false truths - such as drinking alcohol reduces the risks of contamination.
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@chocksaway, on the social media rumours side a friend of a friend of a friend of Macron’s tennis coach’s chef said he heard muttering about Le Contamines and the Force de Frappe...


http://youtube.com/v/aCbfMkh940Q
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Anyone else think that the "super spreader" who met Wuhanese at Singapore, has infected at least 5 in France and 2 in UK is one of those dreadful people who invades others' spaces? Who is always that bit closer than most people are in social and work situations? Hate it!

And don't be always so close in a lift queue that you are always nudging my rucksack either - it makes me feel travel sick!
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Scrumpy wrote:
Anyone else think that the "super spreader" who met Wuhanese at Singapore, has infected at least 5 in France and 2 in UK is one of those dreadful people who invades others' spaces? Who is always that bit closer than most people are in social and work situations? Hate it!

And don't be always so close in a lift queue that you are always nudging my rucksack either - it makes me feel travel sick!


No!

How would you cope on the Central or Piccadilly lines in rush hour!?


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Bit harsh on that guy - all bar a couple of the people who seem to have been infected by him were staying in the same apartment (Inc another one of the Brighton cases confirmed today). It's not surprising that they would be likely to have caught it.

Without releasing his detailed travel history though it will be really hard to identify contacts. So far all we know is that he was in the apartment, on that easyJet flight from Geneva, and in a pub in Brighton.
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Ozboy wrote:
jedster wrote:
Just heard that all thes tests were negative - it hasn’t spread in Les C.
Awaiting confirmation but sounds like the drama is over folks


Le Dauphine updated this morning that they are still waiting on 25 results. 21 are back as negative. Let’s hope your source is more up to date.


https://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2020/02/09/coronavirus-les-38-francais-rapatries-sont-arrives-a-londres


Yes - I want confirmation but the information I have comes from a friend phoning the mayors office this morning.
Always a risk of miscommunication or over-optimism so let's see.
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4 more cases just announced in the U.K. who all came into contact with the ‘super spreader’ in France. Although very sad and devastating to those affected it’s interesting to see how these things spread - which I assume is how the normal flu spreads through circumstance and bad luck.
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Meanwhile more people have been killed on the roads, as happens every day.
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Scrumpy wrote:
Anyone else think that the "super spreader" who met Wuhanese at Singapore, has infected at least 5 in France and 2 in UK is one of those dreadful people who invades others' spaces? Who is always that bit closer than most people are in social and work situations? Hate it!


No!! That's a completely unfounded assumption.

Anyone can spread something like this - perhaps via surfaces, maybe through coughing and sneezing.
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They have now closed a school in Thonon which the infected 9YO boy from LC visited on 31 JAN.
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Looks like they are trying to trace people on the flight back from gva on the 28th Jan.

https://www.planetski.eu/2020/02/08/five-british-skiers-go-down-with-coronavirus-in-french-alps/
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Our friends who live in Les Contamines and have a child in the class of one of the British kids just all came back negative. Think this is now about 50% of the test results back.
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@jedster, Nothing heard back yet - hope your friend's child is OK? Its worrying as they were able to get 21 results back last night but seem to be delayed on the other 25 which leads me to thinking they are doing re-tests or going through a notification process.
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I blame this euro penchant for kissing upon greeting and leaving plus that nasty British habit of shaking hands wink .


Above is tongue-in-cheek but you can see how easily bugs can spread even with no outward symptoms.
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https://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2020/02/10/coronavirus-le-point-ce-lundi-matin


Relief all round
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@Debbie151515, Welcome to snowHeads snowHead

@halfhand, even if you keep your tongue in your cheek?
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Thank you for the updates on here.
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Great news for all involved.
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As the article says, a great relief: for the village/town and wider region as well as generally for those monitoring virus transmission.
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@Scrumpy, maybe he is a close-talker...


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Although it doesn’t matter to my finances, as someone with some ties to Les Contamines I feel real relief for all those people who earn a living there. Whatever you do for money in a ski resort you live a slightly tenuous financial existence with your income impacted by snowfall, weather and exchange rates. You really don’t need ramped your fears of a virus outbreak on top!

As I’ve said in this thread and the apres ski one, the risks of corona virus infection were always going to be greater on public transport in the UK than in an alpine village.

Feels like the French authorities have handled this very well and yet some of our friends will probably have less to spend this year as a result of the headlines. It’s that direct.
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Well .. based on all the news and links in this articles (thanks to all!) my family and I will still be going - arriving this Saturday for a week.

I guess given that all the tests are coming back negative I would think that people in a similar situation to me (based in Les Cont. for a week) won't be put off, but I wonder whether the "day trippers" staying at other resorts might stay away? It's put Les Contamines on the map one way or another (in the UK, anyway)!

Also .. I wonder if the locals might be a little more wary of the native English speaker next week?! Maybe my Scottish accent might throw them though!
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I don’t think you will notice anything different next week as I am also sure traffic in Brighton will be jammed as usual.


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I’m 10k down the road and there is zero talk about this in the village
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Hi all, 1st posting since joining up, as this topic, specifically its effect on Les Cont.Montjoie is of particular interest to me and my wife. We love to stay there, ski and walk the mountains depending on the time of year.
As to how Covid-19 has affected the number of visitor/skiers/local economy, I frequently view the C/MJ webcams and the massive queues at the two main lift bases up to and especially yesterday (Sunday) would suggest the effects are minimal, thankfully.
Thanks all those with local knowledge for your input. Especially the link to the local paper report (above).
My wife is due to go out there next Sat.
So let's hope the situation is as under control as it appears at the moment.
Fingers crossed, all round.
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Looked again just now.
Massive q. at 0908hrs the TC leLay telecabines caisses view.
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I'm in Les contamines this week and can confirm large lift queues first thing! So effect appears minimal.

Also there appears to be minimal impact on the "don't wash their hands" brigade at the toilets up on the mountain - so doesn't look like some men are more worried about hygiene now! I tend to carry antibacterial hand gel anyway (even before the outbreak).

I haven't seen any signs/impact in the village about it either, and everyone seems to just be going about their life as before.
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Plus ca change!
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I’m in Val d’I with my children. Today on a lift we sat next to an old chap who turned out to have arrived from Singapore 10 days ago. A retired oncologist who said Corona virus was all a fuss over nothing. He did take it in good grace when I pointed out that perhaps a virologist or epidemiologist would be a little better in this situation than an oncologist.... Anyway he said it was quieter than usual in his opinion. Car parks have empty spaces. But the weather today wasn’t great so that’s probably more the driver.

We shall see....
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We are in La Contamines this week and it's been business as usual as far as we have seen. Queues are there, not much space in the public car parks to be seen...
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Probably a very wise stance to take under the circumstances.
Not to get into a "hissy, spitty argument" in close proximity to someone who has just returned from S. E. Asia!
Save that for Internet chat rooms, where intolerant knee-jerk insult slanging matches truly belong. Toofy Grin Twisted Evil
(or so it would appear, this room excepted of course).
Give my regards to La Daille, our combined families loved it. That Lady's Downhill run really rocks.
Enjoy!
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And yet we all ignore influenza ...
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@under a new name, primarily, I think, because there is usually a vaccine for it which can keep the numbers catching it in some sort of limit. I have read that present measures are to buy time until a vaccine is developed and brought into use.
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@achilles, the number of people dying from complications arising from influenza is way higher than fatality rates arising from corona virus, regardless of the flu vaccine.
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@achilles, flu deaths,

“ The common flu causes up to 5 million cases of severe illness worldwide and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization ”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/flu-bigger-concern-wuhan-virus-grabs-headlines/5701932
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Be careful with mixing numbers and rates, severity and stats.
If you are using "severe cases" that's not the same as symptomatic numbers or even total infections. This applies to influenza and to this Covid-19 infection.
The ECDC reckon Seasonal influenza causes 4 -50 million symptomatic cases in EU/EEA each year, and 15 000 – 70 000 European citizens die every year of causes associated with influenza.
That's a rate of 0.1 to 0.4% but because the numbers infected are so great, the number of deaths attributable to annual influenza is much higher than from Covid-19 (so far).
However it would appear the death rate is higher for Covid-19 infections.
This could change, as by no means is all the data is in yet.
Today's BBC article from the Chinese CDC newest study report show:
The findings put the overall death rate of the Covid-19 virus at 2.3%.
China's latest official figures released on Tuesday put the overall death toll at 1,868 and 72,436 infections.

Enough of the pedantry from me;
Have a great, safe time on the slopes,
And watch out for those 2 y/olds on sledges!
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