 Poster: A snowHead
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I can ski so fast, I trigger a sonic boom, so have to keep below the speed of sound, when the avalanche risk is above 1. 
(It's all down to the Wax).
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 28-01-20 16:04; edited 2 times in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| However since they are populated by peope who've been posting longer than you and possibly have more posts I suspect they are immediately discredited in your eyes (perhaps Admin could reset all the forum clocks and counters so they only record Anno PS). |
Or replace post count with Lifetime Days Skied. Perhaps that might stop trolls making silly comments about people who have contributed a lot of posts to the forum over the years.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @Peter Stevens, there is no actual way that you did >90 kph on a piste. On punter skis. Without a catsuit. |
On the dedicated timed ski runs over here in Austria which are fairly short and not that steep most people hit between 65 and 75kph in a tuck (the sensors are probably not that well calibrated but fairly close). Get on some GS skis and straight line a steep black and you will be easilly putting another 15 - 25kph on top. Admittedly, being able to scrub off the speed if required and being confident enough to feel happy doing these speeds mean that you are likely to be a pretty good skier with very strong legs.
I know a local slope that has a really steep top section but then opens up into a wide straight , when it's empty you can really let loose. Some local young racers (it's next to the GS training course) take a massive jump at high speed into it, god knows the max they are reaching.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Well, I struggle to find evidence that this ski tracks app is recording completely silly numbers. The math solution in a GPS receiver yields a pretty accurate speed. Next in accuracy is the lateral position, and altitude is the most problematic (geoid correction etc). That video above shows some muppet, going like that with lots of people close by, but what does that prove? Lots of them around. Also you can make a ski video look really fast if you have the camera low down. I was getting max speeds in the 50-70kmh range, with one at 80 and one at 93. The fast bit was probably a few seconds, on a red, and carving a bit, not going straight down which I never do unless there is a hill ahead. This is all on basically empty slopes, which I was most fortunate to see last week, starting when the gate opens. I *am* surprised at these numbers but can't disprove them.
On the original topic of womens' skis, I read those links but some of it sounds dodgy especially for somebody "tougher". One of them says women have a different centre of gravity   Well, some have, but you don't have many Dolly Partons skiing.
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@Peter Stevens, you're really into making friends here aren't you? After your casual diss of the disabled elsewhere you're set on alienating half the world's population with a bit of throwback club comic sexism and a denial of their objective reality based presumably on no greater authority than you're a bloke with an opinion.
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An article with a little academic rigour on typical speeds of alpine skiers.
Just before Christmas one of my regular clients noted, with tongue very firmly in his cheek, that the highest speed his SkiTracks app recorded that week was 203.1 km/h. I've seen more than a few dumb outlier data points like this with SkiTracks.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
An article with a little academic rigour on typical speeds of alpine skiers.
Just before Christmas one of my regular clients noted, with tongue very firmly in his cheek, that the highest speed his SkiTracks app recorded that week was 203.1 km/h. I've seen more than a few dumb outlier data points like this with SkiTracks. |
So what you're saying, is that I'm not actually skiing faster than the speed of sound - and the sonic boom, is no more than Lady F hitting me on the helmet (head) with a ski pole/snowball, for being in idiot.
Damn!
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| Old Fartbag wrote: |
| So what you're saying, is that I'm not actually skiing faster than the speed of sound - and the sonic boom, is no more than Lady F hitting me on the helmet (head) with a ski pole/snowball, for being in idiot. |
'Fraid so.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Old Fartbag wrote: |
| So what you're saying, is that I'm not actually skiing faster than the speed of sound - and the sonic boom, is no more than Lady F hitting me on the helmet (head) with a ski pole/snowball, for being in idiot. |
'Fraid so. |
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
An article with a little academic rigour on typical speeds of alpine skiers.
Just before Christmas one of my regular clients noted, with tongue very firmly in his cheek, that the highest speed his SkiTracks app recorded that week was 203.1 km/h. I've seen more than a few dumb outlier data points like this with SkiTracks. |
That's a good read.
I cycle to work and most days I go down a 1 in 10 hill with two long straights. When I've had a speed measurement from a sensor on the wheel it tends to top out at 40 odd mph but feels pretty damn fast TBH. I feel that the wind across my face and through my helmet feels similar to "skiing fast" - i.e., a long schuss or a carve down a steepish piste with a wide open run-out. I suspect I'm hitting a speed in the 40s for a few moments in a given ski day but generally am skiing much slower. As the article says, at that speed my jacket is flapping like mad.
If you really get your skis up on edge and make an arc on recreational (rather than 30+m radius race skis) then you are going to shed speed pretty quick.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The fast bit was probably a few seconds, on a red, and carving a bit, not going straight down which I never do unless there is a hill ahead.
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For a "few seconds"? nah you were in the 30s (mph)
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| rob@rar wrote: |
An article with a little academic rigour on typical speeds of alpine skiers.
Just before Christmas one of my regular clients noted, with tongue very firmly in his cheek, that the highest speed his SkiTracks app recorded that week was 203.1 km/h. I've seen more than a few dumb outlier data points like this with SkiTracks. |
+1 good article. Been using Trace Snow (other apps are available) on recent trips and it matches the observations recorded in the article for 'recreational' skiing in 'regular' ski clothes. Got up to 90kph on the speed gun down the Hanneggschuss in Wengen a couple years ago and that's fast enough for me thanks. Mental.
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You know it makes sense.
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| jedster wrote: |
If you really get your skis up on edge and make an arc on recreational (rather than 30+m radius race skis) then you are going to shed speed pretty quick. |
That's a good point and rather emphasises that for most of us we are turning to keep our speed down and that there is a serious mental hurdle to switch to racer mode where one is trying to eek out every bit of momentum and maximise acceleration opportunities. So claiming to hit a high speed "without particularly trying" is almost certainly fantasy unless you have trained as a racer.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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My max speed is reliably around 70 kph, measured on my Polar GPS. And it's typically a spike at the end of a straight line.
I have measured 100kph on a speed gun, in a catsuit, on 203cm SuperGs. I don't think I have the guts to go any faster.
A mate who was in the GB downhill squad maxed out at 76mph during an Olympics DH.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| scarah73 wrote: |
Okay, thanks for the replies. Here is some more information:
Female (but don't mind skiing on men's skis and have been told in a shop in resort that men's skis might suit me better).
5' 5" and weight anything between 10.5 and 11 stone depending on how many pies I've eaten.
I'd describe myself as reasonably advanced. I've been skiing over 30 years and usually go 2-3 times a year. I'm happy to go down pretty much any slope I come across and enjoy the challenges of steep blacks, moguls etc. I can go down most moguls pretty smoothly but once they get massive I still end up just getting down however I can. If a run is really steep I might slow down a bit rather than zooming down it but I'm still pretty confident. I'm aware that I'm British and not out there all season though so no way am I as experienced as a lot of people!
I would say medium level of aggressiveness depending on my mood. I do like a good charge around and then I'll really go for it and attach the mountain but equally I can be quite lazy and sometime like to cruise around not really putting much effort in!
Mostly I ski on piste nowadays but I like to tackle anything that comes my way including all snow conditions from hard ice to slush and everything in between. I like both groomers and moguls but I also enjoy doing the runs that are marked out an ungroomed so that could be powder or chopped up stuff or proper moguls depending when it last snowed. I also like to pop off to the side of the runs if there's fresh snow but don't really do any proper off piste any more.
My ski preference is for something that will tackle all of the above and will deliver a mix of short and long turns, will step up to the challenge when I want it to but will also let me relax when I want to chill out. I do like something a bit more on the playful side I think but I also want it to be solid and reliable when it comes to things like ice.
My current skis are a pair of Blizzard Black Pearls with an 88mm waist. I got them about 5 years ago to help me improve in powder and when I planned to do a lot more off-piste skiing. They've improved my powder skiing no end and I really like them for softer snow, slush and chopped up stuff etc but I hate them for hard snow and particularly ice. I also find that they just want to go faster and faster all the time when on-piste and need to be going fast to get the best out of them. Great when I'm in the mood for that but not when I'm not and I want to be the one in charge, not the skis! I know I could probably address this by working on my technique a bit more but I'm middle-aged and out there for a holiday so I'd rather just get something else and have an easier life!
So the plan is to keep the Black Pearls for more powder and then get another pair for all the rest of the time. But I'm undecided between some fairly narrow waisted piste skis or something a bit more all mountain but more piste orientated than the Black Pearls.
Before the Black Pearls I owned a pair of K2 Lotta Luvs from about 2007. It's a few years since I skied them but I recall that they were pretty good fun for everything apart from being a bit more effort in powder. I reckon I could probably get a decent tune out of them in all but the deepest powder now and do plan to get them out and give them another whirl (they've been sitting unloved and unused in the attic all this time). They've not got much life left in them now though so they're not a long term option for the future.
The only other skies I've been on in recent years are a couple of pairs I hired in Tignes last week in the hardpack and ice as I was fed up of sliding round everywhere on the Black Pearls and wanted to try something different. The first ones were a pair of Rossignol Hero Elite ST TIs and I've got to say these were the best fun I've had in years! They were absolutely brilliant for charging around the resort and made me feel so confident. I did a bit of everything on these skis and they performed everywhere I took them but obviously I hired them with the current snow conditions in mind and I don't think they'd be a suitable for varied conditions and slush in March.
I also tried a pair of Dynastar Speedzone 12s. I found these to be okay but not that exciting really. They did everything I asked of the but weren't much fun and they actually didn't inspire me to go charging around so didn't really live up to their name for me! I will say though that the pair the shop gave me felt a touch on the long side so I was perhaps a bit more cautious on these. They certainly didn't do it for me the way the Rossignols did though.
So that's my big essay! If anybody has any thoughts or suggestions based on all of that I'd be very grateful. My general issue as I said above is that I can't decide between straight piste ski or something a bit more all mountain. Also I'm a bit wary of buying something that's a bit too much for me, as I think may be the case with the BPs, but I equally don't want to buy something more suited to an intermediate and then find it dull and slow!
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Haha
I was about to advise you to get some blizzard black pearls as my wife has the and loves them, then I noticed you already had some.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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On the GPS point, smartphones generally have 1Hz GPS units which are not particularly accurate. OK fr finding a Costa coffee on Google maps, not really designed for accurate speed measurement. If you pair your phone with an external 20Hz GPS sensor such as a Garmin GLO, you will get an accurate reading.
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