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Head Light Joy and Absolut Joy for a beginner?

 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
Hi there!

I'm trying to convert my girlfriend into a snow addict and looking to get her a pair of skis. After some research, I came across a couple of very nice offers: a Head Absolut Joy (used, from 2016 I believe) for €110 shipped and a Head Light Joy (new, 2019) for €175. Both 153cm.

The problem is I can't find many reviews on the Light; and regarding the Absolut, I'm uncertain how suitable they are for a beginner (based on multiple reviews I've read). The info and descriptions on Head's website don't really help cause their marketing department is retarded.

She has little experience (about 6 days skiing and a couple lessons), so I figured it'd make sense to get something as easy as possible to ski on, to really make sure she has an easy start and really gets into it. If she grows out of them quickly, good, we'll just sell them then.

Anyway, the question is: does anyone have any experience with the Head Light Joy? Would you recommend it for a beginner? And what about the Absolut Joy? And would 153cm be a good length?

Her stats:
22 years old
1,62m (5'4")
~53kg
Skiing mostly in the Alps


A few disclaimers:
- I know boots are a better investment, and she just bought a pair;
- I know testing the skis beforehand is always better, but we live in the flat Netherlands so the options are very limited. Plus, I have the impression you're unlikely to go wrong with beginner skis;
- I know renting might be better, but we've done the math, and those €110 for used rental skis are already less than what she'd spend on rental only this season. So financially it makes sense.


Can anyone provide any info on those pairs? And would you recommend different models / lengths, preferably around that price range?

Thanks a lot in advance!
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I'm not familiar with either of these personally, but if you definitely want to buy why not look in Decathlon, where you will get a brand new beginner ski with a two year warranty for around €120. Buying secondhand skis is fraught with problems that a beginner could do without, especially as they are unlikely to be able to work out if the problem is with the skis or with themselves!

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/pisteski-s-voor-dames-met-bindingen-boost-300-archtec-paars-en-zwart/_/R-p-149931?mc=8370678&c=PAARS_ROZE

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/pisteski-s-dames-met-bindingen-rossignol-attraxion/_/R-p-X8398777

The second one looks like an absolute bargain to me, and means that you should be able to recoup most of the cost if she decides to swap skis after a couple more trips.
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My guess would be the Absolute Joy - probably because I've read more about it.

I think the Light Joy would be also suitable

Ideally, I think 143 - 148 would be a better length, given her stats and 6 days experience.
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@Gustavo the Gaper, have you counted the costs of carriage on flights (assuming you are flying)?
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@Gustavo the Gaper, +1 for @Old Fartbag's advice.
The other cost to consider is servicing. Jim assuming you are probably planning 2 more weeks this season (otherwise renting would likely be cheaper) so you'll want at least 1 edge n wax. Cheap if you do it yourself, probably 10-20€ in resort.

If you are doing 2 more weeks this year, and your gf gets into it (and progresses a decent amount) then she'll likely be ready for slightly longer or different skis next year.
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@Gustavo the Gaper, have you counted the costs of carriage on flights (assuming you are flying)?


I was going to say that too. When we looked at £35 each way ski carriage on jet2 versus £70 to hire it was a no-brainer especially as we just potter on the slopes. Also carrying them in the car with the 4 of us would have to buy roof bars and all that faff.
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My other half has the pure joy, these have been amazing skis and have increased her confidence and ability greatly. I would really recommend them, they have a lot of grip in all conditions and are very stable and predictable.

If the 'light' joy is in any way related (never heard of this particular ski) then go for it!
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Damn, those Rossi's really are an amazing deal!

I wasn't really looking into Wed'ze, but to be honest it's mainly out of "prejudice"; i have no clue if they're decent or not. Have you ever tried one of their skis?

Looking up some reviews on the Rossi's right now, but it's hard to find anything on this specific model (most Attraxions have a number too, like "Attraxion 6"). I'll see what i can find.

Thanks a lot for the recommendation!
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Thanks for all the input!

I am indeed counting with the carriage costs. But we don't always fly (her week-long trip this year will be by bus for instance), so that's no big issue.

Servicing I do myself as well, so the cost is low.

@Thomasski, thanks for the suggestion, I'll look for deals on the Pure Joy. How much experience did she have when she started using them?
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Two weeks, she's spend three weeks on them and is now hammering down steep blues and mogul fields with enviable confidence and skill.
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@Gustavo the Gaper, I agree than buying a pair of cheap skis can save on renting. Another option to consider is to buy some used skis from a rental store. She will probably progress quickly and will be ready for something more joyful as she gets bettter. We do this for our kids - pair of used skis and boots for EUR100 per child as and one pair gets handed down.
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sj1608 wrote:
I'm not familiar with either of these personally, but if you definitely want to buy why not look in Decathlon, where you will get a brand new beginner ski with a two year warranty for around €120. Buying secondhand skis is fraught with problems that a beginner could do without, especially as they are unlikely to be able to work out if the problem is with the skis or with themselves!

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/pisteski-s-voor-dames-met-bindingen-boost-300-archtec-paars-en-zwart/_/R-p-149931?mc=8370678&c=PAARS_ROZE

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/pisteski-s-dames-met-bindingen-rossignol-attraxion/_/R-p-X8398777

The second one looks like an absolute bargain to me, and means that you should be able to recoup most of the cost if she decides to swap skis after a couple more trips.


Just reporting back: ended up buying the Rossignol, it was a real bargain indeed, we went to the indoor hall last weekend and she really liked them! Thanks a LOT for all the tips and help!

And while we're at it, another tip: www.ski24.pl
Just bought myself a new 2018 Blizzard Brahma CA SP there, paid €290 shipped with bindings, it arrives within 3 working days, great service, I'd totally recommend it!
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@Gustavo the Gaper, thanks for coming back and telling us what you did. Hope they're as good outside as in the snowdome!
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@Zosia123, perhaps you'd like to declare an interest here - like maybe that the email address you used to register your account contains the shop name? That makes you look like a commercial spammer, especially when you reply to a topic which has been dormant for 4 years...
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@Zosia123, perhaps you'd like to declare an interest here - like maybe that the email address you used to register your account contains the shop name? That makes you look like a commercial spammer, especially when you reply to a topic which has been dormant for 4 years...


Ooops. Laughing
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@olderscot, yup - kinda surprising that they're a beginner but either own or work in a ski shop... Embarassed
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