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Pain with my boots

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hey guys, I’m 1.65m (5’5), 80 kg (176 lb)
I have a pair of Atomic Hawx prime 100 that I bought in France (a boot fitter made it custom).
I didn’t go ski last year because of an injure, so I’ve decided to go for a dry run (ski simulator).
1) I have found out that my left shin really hurts when I flex my leg with the boot (even when no skiing). And I don’t know what do with that..
this is how I flex and when it hurts the most
And this is where it’s hurts the most

2) After I ski for a whole day, my calves are hurt and I don’t understand why because I don’t ski in the backseat and my instructor confirmed that..

3) when Ive skied in the dry run (and even when
I’m with the boot on for a while with buckles closed), my left leg feel numb ( like falling asleep ) after a while.. I’m afraid that maybe the boot pressure against my calves or something?
Here are some photos how the boot is on my leg
sometimes I feel a pressure in the rest circules, maybe it cut off the blood to my leg so it feels numb?

I know that it’s hard to say from remote, but will greatly appreciate any help!!
Thank you very much in advance!
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Had similar, for me it was due to the hard plastic overlap from the tongue of the liner.
Wraparound liners provided an even hold and allowed better buckle adjustment

Did the boot fitter a wraparound mouldable liner like this:
https://www.theski-shop.co.uk/191004/products/intuition-power-wrap-replacement-ski-boot-liners.aspx
Also Palau do one
https://palau-ski-boot-liners.com/?lang=en
as do Dalbello
https://www.dalbello.it/en/liners/

If its been a while, maybe muscle tone and fitness have contributed?
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I saw these 'Ski Bootorials' on you tube. I thought they were interesting.
This one is on foot cramping.

http://youtube.com/v/v-T9ULecfwo
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If your calves are hurting then there's a chance the boot is too loose around the shin.

This is going to sound obvious, but are you doing them up properly? My dad was complaining the other week about shin pain but turned out he had the tongue outside the shell.
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Snowboarded here so I know very little about ski boots, however, my wife occasionally gets boots hurting on her shin after long day skiing, she swears by some stick-on-skin gel pads! This is only for awkward pressure points and doesn't solve correct fitting and doing them up right. Good luck in solving your issue.
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I am far from an expert, so am thinking out loud:

- I assume you know how to do up your boots and had no problem skiing when you bought them
- Are you now less fit, due to your injury?
- Could your injury have effect your shin?
- Is your lower leg size the same as it was?

The following may (or may not) help:

- Use massage/roller/stretching and trigger point therapy to loosen out Shin/Calf/Achilles/Sole of foot
- Strengthen Calf (heel raises) and Shin (Toe raises)

Remember, a tight muscle is a weak muscle.

Other options: visit a good Bootfitter to check boot and a good Physio to check your lower leg.


Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Tue 7-01-20 14:23; edited 1 time in total
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Old Fartbag wrote:
I am far from an expert, so am thinking out loud:

- I assume you know how to do up your boots and had no problem skiing when you bought them Yeah, but I remember that 2 years ago the boot wan't perfect at all.. It was better, but I can remember that my shins where hurt as well. And I also remember that my leg was felt asleep after 1 hour of skiing.
- Are you now less fit, due to your injury? I workout a lot, cycling and I go to the gym for wright lifting, but since my last time of skiing (2 years ago) i've gained ~8kg of weight, now i'm working to loose that weight to my original ~70 kg weight
- Could your injury have effect your shin? nope. The injury is in the right feet and the left shin is my main problem. Also, i can say that I feel that it's really hard for me to flex in the left leg, but when I
flex (as seen in the pictures), iI feel something hard against my left shin, like a plastic.

- Is your lower leg size the same as it was? Yeah.

The following may (or may not) help:

- Use massage/roller and trigger point therapy to loosen out Shin/Calf/Achilles/Sole of foot
- Strengthen Calf (heel raises) and Shin (Toe raises)

Remember, a tight muscle is a weak muscle.

Other options: visit a good Bootfitter to check boot and a good Physio to check your lower leg.


Thanks for the reply. Please see my answers in bold.
Maybe my calves are too big for the boot? What do you think from the pictures that I have attached?
thanks!!
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SnoodlesMcFlude wrote:
If your calves are hurting then there's a chance the boot is too loose around the shin.

This is going to sound obvious, but are you doing them up properly? My dad was complaining the other week about shin pain but turned out he had the tongue outside the shell.

I don't think it's too loose. The opposite is the right, look at the pictures, maybe my calves are too big for the boot? Because it feels very tight with my calves.
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beny992 wrote:
Old Fartbag wrote:
I am far from an expert, so am thinking out loud:

- I assume you know how to do up your boots and had no problem skiing when you bought them Yeah, but I remember that 2 years ago the boot wan't perfect at all.. It was better, but I can remember that my shins where hurt as well. And I also remember that my leg was felt asleep after 1 hour of skiing.
- Are you now less fit, due to your injury? I workout a lot, cycling and I go to the gym for wright lifting, but since my last time of skiing (2 years ago) i've gained ~8kg of weight, now i'm working to loose that weight to my original ~70 kg weight
- Could your injury have effect your shin? nope. The injury is in the right feet and the left shin is my main problem. Also, i can say that I feel that it's really hard for me to flex in the left leg, but when I
flex (as seen in the pictures), iI feel something hard against my left shin, like a plastic.

- Is your lower leg size the same as it was? Yeah.

The following may (or may not) help:

- Use massage/roller and trigger point therapy to loosen out Shin/Calf/Achilles/Sole of foot
- Strengthen Calf (heel raises) and Shin (Toe raises)

Remember, a tight muscle is a weak muscle.

Other options: visit a good Bootfitter to check boot and a good Physio to check your lower leg.


Thanks for the reply. Please see my answers in bold.
Maybe my calves are too big for the boot? What do you think from the pictures that I have attached?
thanks!!

From your answers, it does sound like a Boot Fit problem, leading to a Blood Flow problem.

It looks to me (and I could be quite wrong), that the boot may not be wide enough to accommodate your calf properly - this needs checked by a good Bootfitter, who can properly diagnose the problem and won't use it as an excuse to sell you another pair of boots, if you don't need them.

If anything, the Boots are imo too soft for your weight - so something is wrong if you find it hard to flex the left Boot and feel something hard against your shin.

I am 10 Stone and 5'10", a reasonably decent skier and ski the Atomic Hawx (not Prime) in a 110. They are the most comfortable. yet decent fitting Boots that I've owned.
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Old Fartbag wrote:
beny992 wrote:
Old Fartbag wrote:
I am far from an expert, so am thinking out loud:

- I assume you know how to do up your boots and had no problem skiing when you bought them Yeah, but I remember that 2 years ago the boot wan't perfect at all.. It was better, but I can remember that my shins where hurt as well. And I also remember that my leg was felt asleep after 1 hour of skiing.
- Are you now less fit, due to your injury? I workout a lot, cycling and I go to the gym for wright lifting, but since my last time of skiing (2 years ago) i've gained ~8kg of weight, now i'm working to loose that weight to my original ~70 kg weight
- Could your injury have effect your shin? nope. The injury is in the right feet and the left shin is my main problem. Also, i can say that I feel that it's really hard for me to flex in the left leg, but when I
flex (as seen in the pictures), iI feel something hard against my left shin, like a plastic.

- Is your lower leg size the same as it was? Yeah.

The following may (or may not) help:

- Use massage/roller and trigger point therapy to loosen out Shin/Calf/Achilles/Sole of foot
- Strengthen Calf (heel raises) and Shin (Toe raises)

Remember, a tight muscle is a weak muscle.

Other options: visit a good Bootfitter to check boot and a good Physio to check your lower leg.


Thanks for the reply. Please see my answers in bold.
Maybe my calves are too big for the boot? What do you think from the pictures that I have attached?
thanks!!

From your answers, it does sound like a Boot Fit problem, leading to a Blood Flow problem.

It looks to me (and I could be quite wrong), that the boot may not be wide enough to accommodate your calf properly - this needs checked by a good Bootfitter, who can properly diagnose the problem and won't use it as an excuse to sell you another pair of boots, if you don't need them.

If anything, the Boots are imo too soft for your weight - so something is wrong if you find it hard to flex the left Boot and feel something hard against your shin.

I am 10 Stone and 5'10", a reasonably decent skier and ski the Atomic Hawx (not Prime) in a 110. They are the most comfortable. yet decent fitting Boots that I've owned.


Thank you so much for your help!
I think that you are right. IMO it seems that my calves has not enough room in the boot..
It's really weird that when I flex the boot I feel something hard.. It's in the lower shin (Ive posted a picture showing exactly where it's) and my tibialis anterior hurts as well at this spot..Sad
Do you think I need a new boot? How should I know if t he boort fitter just want to sell me a new boot or I really need a new one? Because the previous one looked very professional, and we did several boot fitting sessions..

Thanks!
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beny992 wrote:


Thank you so much for your help!
I think that you are right. IMO it seems that my calves has not enough room in the boot..
It's really weird that when I flex the boot I feel something hard.. It's in the lower shin (Ive posted a picture showing exactly where it's) and my tibialis anterior hurts as well at this spot..Sad
Do you think I need a new boot? How should I know if t he boort fitter just want to sell me a new boot or I really need a new one? Because the previous one looked very professional, and we did several boot fitting sessions..

Thanks!

All I can say, is that you may need new Boots - but you don't want to spend the money, only to find it's not a Boot problem.

If you state where you live - or what resort you are going to - then you are likely to get recommendations.

If you are anywhere near Bicester - give Colin (CEM) a ring @ S4F

The advantage of doing it in Resort, is that you can get any needed adjustments through the week.
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Old Fartbag wrote:
beny992 wrote:


Thank you so much for your help!
I think that you are right. IMO it seems that my calves has not enough room in the boot..
It's really weird that when I flex the boot I feel something hard.. It's in the lower shin (Ive posted a picture showing exactly where it's) and my tibialis anterior hurts as well at this spot..Sad
Do you think I need a new boot? How should I know if t he boort fitter just want to sell me a new boot or I really need a new one? Because the previous one looked very professional, and we did several boot fitting sessions..

Thanks!

All I can say, is that you may need new Boots - but you don't want to spend the money, only to find it's not a Boot problem.

If you state where you live - or what resort you are going to - then you are likely to get recommendations.

If you are anywhere near Bicester - give Colin (CEM) a ring @ S4F

The advantage of doing it in Resort, is that you can get any needed adjustments through the week.


I'll go to Avoriaz (France) this month, I hope that I'll find a decent boot fitter there.. Where I live there is no boot fitter..
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beny992 wrote:
Old Fartbag wrote:
beny992 wrote:


Thank you so much for your help!
I think that you are right. IMO it seems that my calves has not enough room in the boot..
It's really weird that when I flex the boot I feel something hard.. It's in the lower shin (Ive posted a picture showing exactly where it's) and my tibialis anterior hurts as well at this spot..Sad
Do you think I need a new boot? How should I know if t he boort fitter just want to sell me a new boot or I really need a new one? Because the previous one looked very professional, and we did several boot fitting sessions..

Thanks!

All I can say, is that you may need new Boots - but you don't want to spend the money, only to find it's not a Boot problem.

If you state where you live - or what resort you are going to - then you are likely to get recommendations.

If you are anywhere near Bicester - give Colin (CEM) a ring @ S4F

The advantage of doing it in Resort, is that you can get any needed adjustments through the week.


I'll go to Avoriaz (France) this month, I hope that I'll find a decent boot fitter there.. Where I live there is no boot fitter..

If you don't get a recommendation for a Bootfitter in this thread - Start another one asking about recommendations for Avoriaz (or possibly Morzine)....and a link to this thread, to give context.
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You know it makes sense.
Might be of interest - Decathalon are doing a cheap aftermarket mouldable wraparound liner
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/ski-boot-liners-evofit-id_8543114.html
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