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It is always a bad idea to go skiing at night...

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Last time I went skiing at night I joined the 'Lucky To Be Alive' club.
Mind you, it didn't look like that - either the skiing or the scenery - it was in a field in Cheshire that had more rocks than snow after a lot of beer.
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Reminiscent of @tatmantours on his way home from the Bergeralm.......
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That's a fun video. Unlike so many of the "Lhotse Face" type ski things it's stuff we can actually do (albeit not quite like that!). Love those locked in edge angles!
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LED suit is cool (assuming it's real).

Nightskiing, however, totally sucks.

Freezing cold, no sun, no scenery.

Not even a few beers make it worthwhile.
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My brother skis almost exclusively at night under the lights.
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night skiing through the trees in Japan pow is an amazing buzz snowHead
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Nightskiing, however, totally sucks.

I agree, actually. But nice to sit in the warm watching that video.
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I’ve had huge fun night skiing. Under lights, under moonlight. On freshly pisted slopes, in powder.
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Very pretty vids. But I disliked night skiing the 3? Times I tried it. It’s like flat light, I couldn’t see the terrain and react accordingly. Maybe I’m not good enough.
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I'd like to try moonlight, well wrapped up, but found lights horribly disorientating.
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This!

A gentle midnight ski home after an evening at a mountain restaurant is an uplifting experience. If you have enough moonlight it's surprisingly bright, even without a head torch.
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My most amazing skiing experience was skiing (cross country) by the light of a full moon at midnight in Norway. We were sleeping in snow holes way above the tree line. We were about to hunker down in our sleeping bags when the instructor told us to get all our gear on again, we were going skiing. It was simply breathtaking. snowHead
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@pam w, with you there. Did it in NZ and it was sooooo icy, did not enjoy. But a little pooter about on a slope I know in soft stuff under a full moon might be nice.
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I have skied under lights at Meribel, Chamonix and Bormio.

As it is a Salomon film I was wondering whether it was shot nearer to home, maybe at Collet d'Allevard, until I saw the final credits.
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A lot of the mountain restaurants in Austria stay open into the evening, after the lifts have closed. I always stay up for a couple of drinks and occasionally dinner as the atmosphere is great. The runs down, when the lifts have closed and the people have gone home is always fantastic. So quiet and beautiful! Best run of the day.

If there is a moon of any size it's fine without a head torch, especially if the slope has been pisted while you have been relaxing. You can often find a map showing closed areas and times when you can't ski on the resort websites. I suspect they are mainly for ski tourers but they are also geared around early evening drinkers. Zell am see is particularly good in this regard and the apres is better on the mountain than in the town. Schnapps Hans, Breiteckalm, Ebenbergalm ( for dinner) and home!
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Using the pistes after dark is illegal in Haute-Savoie (and I would image lots of other places) due to the danger of skiing/boarding/tobogganing into the piste-bashers' winch cables. The elfin-safety mob have forced the ratracks to tether themselves to a fixed point at the top of even blue runs when pisteing, in case of avalanche or runaway drive-failure. The huge winch on the back of the ratrack pays-out (or takes-in when ascending) a steel cable under enough tension to maintain it at around neck height, in the dark, all the way down the piste. The ratrack may well be out of sight and earshot, but the cable is still there. The law was introduced as a result of fatalities. Catching a tensioned steel cable across the neck at anything above walking speed is not the best way to end a holiday.

I'm no fan of H&S, and often enjoy a ski down after a night out in Avoriaz, but I know where they piste and when, and am very careful and aware of the risk. Think twice, there are all kinds of hazards seen and unseen, even on piste! Skullie
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Wouldn't the piste basher coordinate with mountain restaurants to not bash the piste before the restaurant closes?

How else do the restaurants' customers come down? Even on snowmobile, the same hazards are still hazardous (probably more so as the speed is usually higher)
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Of course on the annual sHs Birthday Bash it's a tradition for there to be an evening meal on the mountain (in recent years held at the restaurant at the top of the Burz chairlift) and then people ski back down at night to Arabba snowHead . It's all officially arranged with the pisteurs and a piste basher leads the way down the slope back to Arabba. In addition to people's headtorches the bright lights on the rear of the piste basher provide good illumination. Just one point - you are supposed to stay behind the piste basher leading the way, I do recall one or two sHs in their enthusiasm as they neared Arabba skiing in front of the piste basher which you shouldn't do as it's potentially dangerous and moreover the pisteurs will get annoyed.
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Wouldn't the piste basher coordinate with mountain restaurants to not bash the piste before the restaurant closes?

How else do the restaurants' customers come down? Even on snowmobile, the same hazards are still hazardous (probably more so as the speed is usually higher)


No doubt due to commercial pressure or plain common sense local arrangements are negotiated. Hopefully these arrangements never need to be tested in court. The only two on-mountain restaurants which are permitted to regularly operate after piste-closure here (the Refuge de Verard and the Crapahutte) have non-piste alternative routes down (snow covered roads). In fact the inimitable Crapahutte is so far from the nearest piste it's a law unto itself! The restaurants in Linderets village are only allowed to operate pre-booked private soirées with torchlight-decent, but must hire pisteurs to escort the guests down the piste as a group. The escorts generally spend the evening at the (free) bar and are less competent than most of the punters by hometime Shocked ! The staff skidoos use the snow-covered road.

I believe in other french resorts restaurants can operate on the understanding that the guests (should) download by télécabine, and the other Alpine nations for whom on-mountain après is sacred have no doubt more understanding lawmakers Toofy Grin
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Of course on the annual sHs Birthday Bash it's a tradition for there to be an evening meal on the mountain (in recent years held at the restaurant at the top of the Burz chairlift) and then people ski back down at night to Arabba snowHead . It's all officially arranged with the pisteurs and a piste basher leads the way down the slope back to Arabba. In addition to people's headtorches the bright lights on the rear of the piste basher provide good illumination. Just one point - you are supposed to stay behind the piste basher leading the way, I do recall one or two sHs in their enthusiasm as they neared Arabba skiing in front of the piste basher which you shouldn't do as it's potentially dangerous and moreover the pisteurs will get annoyed.


Scroll to 9mins 10 seconds. The night time descent.


http://youtube.com/v/glvnL9lkX_I&t=15s
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shep wrote:
I believe in other french resorts restaurants can operate on the understanding that the guests (should) download by télécabine, and the other Alpine nations for whom on-mountain après is sacred have no doubt more understanding lawmakers Toofy Grin


On a similar point I was talking to the staff at the restaurant at the top of the Peclet funitel (Val Tho) last season as in the past they use to do a mountain meal and then ski down with a flaming torch - I was told they weren't allowed to use the flaming variant version anymore, although no accidents have happened, but that it can only be done via head torch or under the moonlight and it is organised for large groups only as opposed to the past where it could be a few tables staying for the evening
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Skiing the Vallee Blanche under a full moon is a great experience.
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Certain resorts in Austria allow night touring / skiing, the Full Moon night tour at Fageralm is an example. Using a simple LED bike light allows the bashers to see you, but they are very used to tourers and cables are not used.

For skiing down in dim light conditions a decent quality mountian bike light with a wide angle beam is ideal.
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Scarpa wrote:
For skiing down in dim light conditions a decent quality mountian bike light with a wide angle beam is ideal.


Going by the photos of you in ditches, I'm not sure yours works properly NehNeh Laughing
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Did the torch lite descent in 1991 in Tignes. Food and wine at top of Tovierre, bottle of wine in one hand, flaming torch in the other. Route changed from skiing back to Val claret due to wind blowing out most if the torches. We skied down trolles into Le lac instead. Some skidoo’s provided light. I loved it but I think a few fallers hurt themselves. Some great tales in the alpaca after.
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