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As above. Any recommendations for resorts or ski schools that they'll really hate?
Thanks in advance
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Aspen if they're paying.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If the person isn't sporty in any way... Do a city break where they can shop/chill while you ski.?
Andorra la vella/innsbruck /oslo
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Recipe for a miserable trip.
But as it's you... maybe somewhere like CMH Galena? Expensive and there is absolutely nothing to do other than sit in the lodge? No internet (well, minimal) so that's maybe an advantage.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Gerry, why don't they want to ski?
Is it because they've skied before and decided they hate it?
Or is it because they don't like other sports / think they might hate it?
If the former, then I agree that it could be a recipe for a miserable trip. If the latter... well, I used to hate almost all sports, but I love skiing.
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Er, he's joking.
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Recipe for a miserable trip.
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Change the title of this thread to the above.
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Ahhh it's one of these 
I misread part of the first post...
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Wherever Stanton is 
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La Grave
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Yeah La Grave... and make them ski it 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Gerry, Taking the inlaws then?
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We need more info - is it David Goldsmith?
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You know it makes sense.
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You don’t have to be a non skier to have a miserable time in La Grave, still it made for a memorable 50th.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Gerry Have you already booked the trip, or are you asking about locations with ski+non-ski activities? How old is the non-skier? Do they have any other interests e.g. art, music, just looking round places? Do they swim/gym? Would they be up for a spa 'wellness' thing? Would they be prepared to hop on a train to go out for a day? If the location isn't set, are the skiers prepared to drive to different resorts from a valley location? Does your non-skier speak German or French? How long do you plan to go for? Are you flying or driving?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Gerry, Is a mate asking you to come along on a skiing holiday?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@skimottaret, trying to explain to a total stranger why I've just laughed out loud at your post is proving to be a challenge.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| @skimottaret, trying to explain to a total stranger why I've just laughed out loud at your post is proving to be a challenge. |
Those long winter evenings must just fly by.
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Putting this into perspective. I had a drink with an old mate I haven’t seen in 20yrs. He always was a bit stuck in his ways due to the red lines he surrounds himself with. Anyway he never fancied skiing even though me and the rest of our mates tried to convince him to go.
Now he’s 60, retired, bored, fit as a butcher’s dog but has just turned down an offer from his nephew of a free ski holiday. It would mean him stepping over one of his redlines.
Another redline is the internet which he says he has no interest in. He’s single, wants to meet someone but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
He’s stuck in an 80s time warp and not happy. How can someone like that be helped?
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| Gerry wrote: |
Putting this into perspective. I had a drink with an old mate I haven’t seen in 20yrs. He always was a bit stuck in his ways due to the red lines he surrounds himself with. Anyway he never fancied skiing even though me and the rest of our mates tried to convince him to go.
Now he’s 60, retired, bored, fit as a butcher’s dog but has just turned down an offer from his nephew of a free ski holiday. It would mean him stepping over one of his redlines.
Another redline is the internet which he says he has no interest in. He’s single, wants to meet someone but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
He’s stuck in an 80s time warp and not happy. How can someone like that be helped? |
Saga cruises?
(on a more flippant note: doesn't want to ski? Dignitas?)
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| Gerry wrote: |
Putting this into perspective. I had a drink with an old mate I haven’t seen in 20yrs. He always was a bit stuck in his ways due to the red lines he surrounds himself with. Anyway he never fancied skiing even though me and the rest of our mates tried to convince him to go.
Now he’s 60, retired, bored, fit as a butcher’s dog but has just turned down an offer from his nephew of a free ski holiday. It would mean him stepping over one of his redlines.
Another redline is the internet which he says he has no interest in. He’s single, wants to meet someone but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
He’s stuck in an 80s time warp and not happy. How can someone like that be helped? |
The reality is that the singles have all left the pubs & clubs and moved to the internet.
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With so many red lines, that’s why he’s single. Sounds a bit like my brother (who is not fit or 60 but is “computer says no” stubborn, and leads a hand to mouth existence as a result).
Relationships are about compromise. Why would anyone want to be with him if he’s so tough to not compromise?
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| tangowaggon wrote: |
| Gerry wrote: |
Putting this into perspective. I had a drink with an old mate I haven’t seen in 20yrs. He always was a bit stuck in his ways due to the red lines he surrounds himself with. Anyway he never fancied skiing even though me and the rest of our mates tried to convince him to go.
Now he’s 60, retired, bored, fit as a butcher’s dog but has just turned down an offer from his nephew of a free ski holiday. It would mean him stepping over one of his redlines.
Another redline is the internet which he says he has no interest in. He’s single, wants to meet someone but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
He’s stuck in an 80s time warp and not happy. How can someone like that be helped? |
The reality is that the singles have all left the pubs & clubs and moved to the internet. |
He won’t shift on his decision (taken in 1997) not to ever go online. He’s got a smartphone FFS but doesn’t realise the potential of it.
He won’t go on the FREE ski trip because it doesn’t fulfil his criteria for a holiday which is to lie by a pool or on a beach and do nothing. To each his own I suppose but Jesus wept!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Orange200 wrote: |
With so many red lines, that’s why he’s single. Sounds a bit like my brother (who is not fit or 60 but is “computer says no” stubborn, and leads a hand to mouth existence as a result).
Relationships are about compromise. Why would anyone want to be with him if he’s so tough to not compromise? |
Good question.
He’s good company, a no baggage, perfectly normal in the social sense, geeza who always had a girlfriend but has fallen through the cracks into a single life that he wants to get out of. I think he’s beyond help though.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| SBP wrote: |
| Gerry wrote: |
Putting this into perspective. I had a drink with an old mate I haven’t seen in 20yrs. He always was a bit stuck in his ways due to the red lines he surrounds himself with. Anyway he never fancied skiing even though me and the rest of our mates tried to convince him to go.
Now he’s 60, retired, bored, fit as a butcher’s dog but has just turned down an offer from his nephew of a free ski holiday. It would mean him stepping over one of his redlines.
Another redline is the internet which he says he has no interest in. He’s single, wants to meet someone but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
He’s stuck in an 80s time warp and not happy. How can someone like that be helped? |
Saga cruises?
(on a more flippant note: doesn't want to ski? Dignitas?) |
Ha, yes. I’m sure he could get some discount vouchers for Dignitas online.
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| Gerry wrote: |
| Orange200 wrote: |
With so many red lines, that’s why he’s single. Sounds a bit like my brother (who is not fit or 60 but is “computer says no” stubborn, and leads a hand to mouth existence as a result).
Relationships are about compromise. Why would anyone want to be with him if he’s so tough to not compromise? |
Good question.
He’s good company, a no baggage, perfectly normal in the social sense, geeza who always had a girlfriend but has fallen through the cracks into a single life that he wants to get out of. I think he’s beyond help though. |
Looking at some of the wretches in my industry, no one is beyond help in Thailand...
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You know it makes sense.
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Aw, bless him. What hope is there for a bloke who still uses expressions like ‘pull a bird’, who is so hedged about by his red lines that he can’t step out of the 70s and out of his self-made prison. All the good will and wise advice in the world isn’t going to help your mate if he can’t see over those red line walls.
For the record, I’m a bit of an odd bod, a snowHead who doesn’t ski or board. Tried it, crocked my knee early doors and decided to stick to dancing. But I’m a fan of snowy mountains and with two sons who are ski nuts and a husband who’s getting there, I’ve managed to insinuate myself into a few bashes. While everyone takes to the slopes I take myself off for walks or hang out at the hotel and read or chat to those passing through. I love being among happy ski folk, listening to tales of the piste, the banter and the camaraderie in the bar and over dinner.
As for your mate - you could try telling him he’s right, he’d hate skiing, he’s way too old to think about trying it, he’d really wouldn’t want to meet all those fit ‘birds’ in the pub for a bit of après . . . . And then you can offer to go in his stead.  Good luck.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
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Go to a supermarket and/or get a dog
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Poster: A snowHead
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but believes the only legitimate way to ‘pull a bird’, as he puts it, is in a night club, pub or at a party.
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There’s got to be equally uncompromising “birds” like him out there. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Some people genuinely do not like the idea of a holiday where the weather is cold and there is more physical activity involved than lifting a beer glass to one's mouth. That's their choice. Same as I would never choose a holiday which involves large amounts of alcohol and potential skin cancer. Live and let live.
However, I can't see a 'bird' ever being interested in someone like your friend, internet or not. 
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He's not keen to ski and isn't an internet addict - so that makes him an inferior person? It might actually make him more interesting to a lot of people, women in particular. And he's managed to be able to afford to retire at 60 as well. Yes, tagging-along with you might not suit, but then it might: if you've chosen to stay somewhere that's more than some anonymous ski package tour hotelfest. Retired early, sounds like he has independent means, doesn't spend all day playing computer games or watching internet porn, actually likes to talk to people rather than chat online. Sounds a likeable enough person to me.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@michaelbury17, +1
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Read this and realised that, as a 54 yo “bird”, (and assuming he’s not so deluded that he thinks a woman half his age is what he’d go for) he’d be in the target age group for me, were I single.
A willingness to try new things is very attractive. Setting your face against something which could be fun and life enriching because 20 years ago you decided not to try it isn’t attractive.
My guess is that the reason he still takes this line is because his ego is in fact very fragile:
He likes to be the best at something and is scared he won’t be-skiing.
As he hasn’t used the internet, he knows/thinks it would be a daunting task to use it now (and is equally scared of making a tit of himself).
Women actually scare the pants off him (metaphorically speaking-as clearly his pants remain on at all times in their presence!). But ..obviously... it’s their fault that they don’t fall for him. 
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
Some people genuinely do not like the idea of a holiday where the weather is cold and there is more physical activity involved than lifting a beer glass to one's mouth. That's their choice. Same as I would never choose a holiday which involves large amounts of alcohol and potential skin cancer. Live and let live.
However, I can't see a 'bird' ever being interested in someone like your friend, internet or not. |
but at least live a little...
Be a lion & stop being a mouse.
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
Some people genuinely do not like the idea of a holiday where the weather is cold and there is more physical activity involved than lifting a beer glass to one's mouth. That's their choice. Same as I would never choose a holiday which involves large amounts of alcohol and potential skin cancer. Live and let live.
However, I can't see a 'bird' ever being interested in someone like your friend, internet or not. |
Large amounts of alcohol and potential skin cancer sounds like a fair few of my ski trips.
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