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Unusual and alarming tragedy at Mammoth

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Three ski patrollers die after falling into a snow hole created be the venting of volcanic gases - not clear if death caused through physical injury or carbon monoxide poisoning.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/06/mammoth.deaths.ap/index.html
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How tragic. Sounds like gas was the cause of death.
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We skied there 8 years ago. Although the whole region is recognised as having a bit of volcanic activity going on, I don't recall any mention that the snow might open beneath our feet and swallow us up. The fact that these unfortunate guys were roping something off perhaps suggests that they were not far from the piste.
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richmond, I've heard that the Mammoth Lakes area is a bit like Yellowstone; the whole area could blow in a devastating fashion. I've climbed (really, walked up) Lassen Peak, much further north in CA, which has stinking fumeroles all the way up and an impressive crater, but like the rest of the Cascade peaks, it's a "proper" volcano. It last blew in 1917, I think.
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
How tragic. Sounds like gas was the cause of death.


Hmm, there could be a repeat at the eosb when I kick my skiboots off Shocked Laughing
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Charlatanefc, Nothing compared to Tartiflette and a "formidable" of fizzy French beer. You have to feel sorry for these guys and their friends and families - so unlucky.
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Frosty the Snowman, don't do cheese at all. Hate the stuff, especially the sweaty socks variety you put on spaghetti bol.
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Charlatanefc, you should be taken out behind the woodshed and thrashed Evil or Very Mad for that obscenity against cheese
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3 people die making pistes safe and its degenerates to cheesy feet. Really respectful rolling eyes
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Having only just read the piece now, seems strange. It says "Whether they were killed by the 21-foot fall or were also affected by gases seeping from the cavity was not immediately clear", but further down says "nothing to do with Volcanic activity". I'm not an expert geologist, but I would have thought if these gases were present, surely that's something to do with volcanic activity???

Must be said, last place I'd want to ski is on a volcano, be it dormant or whatever.
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kruked wrote:
3 people die making pistes safe and its degenerates to cheesy feet. Really respectful rolling eyes


This is an interent skiing forum, not the Brownies. Sorry for any confusion.
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Embarassed I thought he had said "cheesy feet", no wonder I was confused.
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Charlatanefc wrote:
Having only just read the piece now, seems strange. It says "Whether they were killed by the 21-foot fall or were also affected by gases seeping from the cavity was not immediately clear", but further down says "nothing to do with Volcanic activity". I'm not an expert geologist, but I would have thought if these gases were present, surely that's something to do with volcanic activity???

Must be said, last place I'd want to ski is on a volcano, be it dormant or whatever.


Avoid Chile, Oregon, Washington etc then in that case - actually the natural features on volcanoes makes then great places to ski. I'd guess the incident was inbounds by the sounds of it. I'd read the "nothing to do with volcanic activity" more as a "don't panic no eruption imminent" which would hurt the hugely pricey Mammoth real estate market.
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fatbob, I've no intention matey, I can't be bothered sitting on a plane for more than 2 1/2 hours Wink
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kruked, good point, sorry
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I experienced 2 earthquakes at Mammoth in 1997. I'm sure many British skiers have seen the well known blowhole next to the pistes, where the steam stinks of H2S. There are also plenty of other holes along the top ridge, created by snowmelt from gas seepage. But this is shocking - possibly a new vent hole that they didn't know about.
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Fuller story here http://www.telemarktips.com/TeleNews.htm. One guy was Mammoth's leading snow safety expert. Sad loss.
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This whole thing sounds really unlucky. Poor guys and their families - no stupidity on display for this one. Crying or Very sad
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Charlatanefc, Cheese is the Earwax of the Devil. Little Angel
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, hallelujah brother! Wink
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More details of the tragedy here in the LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mammoth8apr08,0,501308.story?coll=la-home-headlines

and also a description of the area's vulcanism here:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-risks8apr08,0,1166.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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A picture from the LA Times. There's a gallery there showing just how close this is to an easy-looking piste.

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richmond wrote:
kruked wrote:
3 people die making pistes safe and its degenerates to cheesy feet. Really respectful rolling eyes


This is an interent skiing forum, not the Brownies. Sorry for any confusion.


Learn how to spell you wnaker. Oops its seems its catching
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kruked, I don't appreciate your humour on a thread about an unfortunate tragedy
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Russell I dont think you have read the whole thread properly. 3 skiers lost their lives on the mountain and Charletanfc made a joke in bad taste about the incident. Kruked is merely showing their distain for such inappropriate jokes in bad taste.
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Edmundh009, I read it I didnt appreciate the other humour but the tone has been lowered more. The last I shall say on the matter
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take a look at where it happend. In the open on a well used piste(by the look off the ski tracks)




very scary and unlucky for all involved
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Russell wrote:
kruked, I don't appreciate your humour on a thread about an unfortunate tragedy


Hang, on he didn't start it, I did, or possibly charlatenefc did, depending on how you look at it. Fair dos. I'm perfectly happy to take my share of the 'blame' from the more po faced members of our little community, and I daresay that charlatenefc is too.
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Can I just say I'm sorry if my original hijacking of this thread offended anybody, certainly didn't mean to, as richmond so rightly summizes.
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for the avoidance of doubt, I was not apologising or suggesting that anyone else should.
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richmond, I know that mate, but felt that I would "just in case" anyone was offended
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Charlatanefc, very wise. We don't want to upset anyone.
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Having read hundreds of posts by you two it is obvious that you are thoughtless, uncaring nasty people....NOT
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Frosty the Snowman, ha, just wait till a week on Saturday Wink
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Here is some details about the boys and the memorial fund from Mammoth:http://www.mammothmountain.com/memorial/
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