Poster: A snowHead
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Coincidentally, I also have a Marmut HS Stoney jacket which I find far too cold (even with suitable base layers)
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I would argue that if you are far too cold your base layers are not "suitable". That's the beauty of layers you can add/subtract until you find a comfortable temperature.
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Decathlon puffer jacket - rated as good as a Rab costing 5 times as much by guide I ski with.
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Decathlon are fantastic. A lot of people get a bit snobby and turn their noses up in favour of big brands though. Decathlons light down jacket is £40 - weight 290g and guaranteed fill rating of 800cuin. Rab light down jacket (prosar) looks nearly identical, weighs more (371g) and has the same fill rating, but costs £230! once my current goretex jacket is finished I plan to get a decathlon shell for snowboarding as much more affordable - £90 for 15,000mm waterproof which is more than enough for my needs.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I like Decathlon too, I know when I buy stuff from there that I am not paying anything for the "name"
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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a good friend of mine taught me many years ago - its better to shiver than sweat...
Also, you should feel slightly cold on the first lift of the day. If you are warm, then you are wearing too much
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I find that with Goretex it only starts dumping the mositure when there's a significant difference in air moisture content between inside & outside of the jacket. This means that once you get a bit sweaty inside the jacket it doesnt dry out totally again. Opening the armpit vents or front zip drys out that area but the back remains sweaty. If you are damp and then it gets colder / less sunny later in the day it feels like you are wearing a wet cotton T-shirt / wet sock. Prefer eVent to Goretex for this reason.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I had a Mountain Equipment neoshell walking jacket, in fact I still have it, it is easily more breathable than anythng else I've tried, nice soft fabric too. Unfortunately they discontinued it years ago.
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@IainMcT, I have the Arteryx Mens Fissile Jacket bought it about five years ago, we ski around four weeks a year, from December through to March, it’s a great jacket, down and gortex, slightly long which I like when sitting on a cold chair, have skied in freezing Banff (Sunshine) and glorious Saalbach in March, all i do is alter my layers, its normally a merino base and mid layer for really cold days I go to a heavier mid layer, never been too cold, if I do get warm the pit zips come into their own.
I had thought about going to a shell when I changed jacket, but decided not to after skiing with someone who had a one and watched them peel off all those layer when we stopped for lunch, I had ordered by they time they finished
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Ditch the synthetic t-shirt !!
I generally wear two base layers under an insulated jacket (Spyder). I feel less constricted than with a fleece and after a run or two, more than warm enough. Basically if your in the shade on a windy exposed chair or run and it's well into minus figures, you're going to be cold but that's hands/face rather than the jacket.
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Tis amusing all this talk over jackets, and believe me I love my jackets!
But for ski touring on the up, in good weather conditions; now I just use my Marmot Air Lite over a single merino base type layer.
It's so light and thin and packs into a pocket so a sort of anthesis to all the talk of jackets in this thread.
Last few days it's been -10 and less and windy, but this just keeps the chill off whilst I stay cool, then I soon as I stop I whip out my 3 yr old down Jottnar Fenrir putting it on straight over the Air-Lite. In my pack, I also have a very old Patagonia micro-lite.
I have a new down Elevenate Aglie but can't quite bring myself to ski in that, as invariably we often end up combat skiing in the forest and bushes, some of which have some nasty barbs on.
The down jackets pack much lighter and less volume than a hardshell I find.
Currently, I'm "testing" a Klättermusen Farbaute down jacket...
Farbaute was a double winner at ISPO this year, the Farbaute won Gold in the Outdoors category and also took home the coveted “Sustainability Achievement Award”, with the judges commending its durability, functionality and design.
https://www.klattermusen.com/en/editorial-page/farbaute/
It's so damn warm and toasty, trouble is it's too damn warm and toasty, it's like being in bed under the duvet, so at the moment I only use it to walk the dogs, but would be great if you were up the hill and stuck on a chair lift, but for ski touring it's not exactly practical.
And +1 to Decathlon, their Simond gear is quality stuff.
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@Weathercam,
Likewise I often use one of these and thin Merino base/mid layers, only wear a jacket with a membrane if it's blowing a gale.
Marmot Herren Preon Hybrid Jacke
https://www.sportpursuit.com/catalog/product/view/id/1806611
It's only windproof on the front panels so the back & armpits are free to breath. When it's really cold I put a woolmix gillet over the top.
... but for resort skiing, which is what the OP is looking for I'd use something else.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@IainMcT,
You have a base layer to wick moisture & keep your body dry
You have a mid layer for warmth
You have an outer shell to keep out the elements.
Change your midlayer to suit conditions. That is much easier than changing a jacket to suit conditons!
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@IainMcT,
You have a mid layer for warmth
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For resort skiing I'd go with this. Prefer to use Merino wool rather than fleece as it deals with the fluctuations in temp/heat build-up better. e.g. Merino wool T-shirt & longarmed top plus woolmix gillet under a shell.
Shells are easier to clean and re-proof than insulated jackets.
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You know it makes sense.
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@DB,
Yup, Long Sleeve T + a zip up Fleece gives me 3 different options for warmth + depending if the fleece is zipped or not, gives another 2!
I also have a technical hoody that I can wear instead of the fleece (rarely over the fleece!)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Always a bit skeptical when the company don't put the waterproof rating. Also the laboratory tested to -40 thing is kind of misleading, good luck surviving in -40 in that jacket! Any reputable company is giving some facts about the type of insulation and some kind of fill rating. Not saying it's not a fine jacket for skiing, but would could never buy from that discroption alone which really doesn't provide any useful info.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Always a bit skeptical when the company don't put the waterproof rating. Also the laboratory tested to -40 thing is kind of misleading, good luck surviving in -40 in that jacket! Any reputable company is giving some facts about the type of insulation and some kind of fill rating. Not saying it's not a fine jacket for skiing, but would could never buy from that discroption alone which really doesn't provide any useful info. |
I had the added benefit of trying the jacket on (but not buying) at the end of last season, so was able to check out the stats on the labels.
It's 10kmm. This will be absolutely fine for me because I will never ski in the rain (again) and won't be going below -20!
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