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Les Deux Alpes 2019/20

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I'm sure there must be places in the Ecrins. The nearest is the road past Venosc to La Bérarde, about 1800m. Lots of high peaks on all sides though.

Going deeper into the Ecrins over Col d'Ornon again there must be passes etc but I'm not that familiar with them. Col Noyer is quoted in places I've seen.

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Interesting is there are chance to get up by Jandri Express to the first stage and then spend a night of observation in the Lac Noir area. are telescopes allowed in the gondola?


Tbh I don't see why not. It's used for mountain bikes. I've known local photographers spend the night on the glacier producing some fantastic photos of the milky way. Contact them in advance.
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Email from lift pass office asking for my bank details as the card I used to pay has expired. It did in March. Getting there slowly.
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Talking to a couple of friends last night who are out here for a very quick trip, 2 days skiing. They said that conditions on the glacier are stunning and it's much quieter than a normal summer. They went up about 8.15 yesterday and there was no queue at all.
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Meanwhile down in the town it's hot and sunny, panorama from my balcony yesterday Very Happy

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Looks nice!
Thanks for the astronomy advice, good places to try.
Still waiting for France to lift 2 weeks quarantine.
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Read this in The Telegraph , it’s part of a longer article but I personally wouldn’t be happy with no restrictions in the gondolas and therefore would stay out of them.This may put a lot of people off.
“Once in the lift cabin people keep as much as a respectful distance as possible in the confined space but most lower their masks. There are only four of us in the lift so I lower my mask too – rightly or wrongly, I don’t feel worried. While earlier in the season the amount of people in 20-person cabins was limited to eight, numbers are no longer restricted.”
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There are problems with the observance of the rules in L2A right now. The ski club kids simply cannot keep their masks on in the cabins, and often also in the queue. This is especially true of the Italian and Spanish kids. I have tried politely asking, which occasionally works. We also had one group resort to name calling and swearing about us in Italian, which turned out badly for them since one of our party is a native speaker!

We are here for two weeks and will test the whole family when we get home. For me it looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Skiing is good though snowHead
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^ Worth saying that I don't believe any children of <12 yrs old have the discipline to follow the rules at all times. There just happen to be more ITA and ESP skiers here now. If they want it to work, the resort needs to go after the coaches IMV and try pulling some passes pour encourager les autres...
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I haven't been up to ski yet. There are less kids ski camps than usual but still a considerable number. Always lots of Italian kids and they're well known for their arrogance and aggression, part and parcel of the training I think. Seen big groups of them running around town though and it's a similar picture.

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^ Worth saying that I don't believe any children of <12 yrs old have the discipline to follow the rules at all times. There just happen to be more ITA and ESP skiers here now. If they want it to work, the resort needs to go after the coaches IMV and try pulling some passes pour encourager les autres...


Pretty much spot on I think.

Thankfully you don't see them in the bars Laughing
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For the gondola situation, Im planning the following, which should lower the risks
- use FFP2 respirator
- wear googles on
- make sure the windows are open for air circulation

Still dont see any updates on the gov site about France lifting 2 weeks quarantine Sad
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@ed48, I was surprised tbh but I looked and it's still there but "voluntary" which I think everyone is declining.
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Just talking to someone who works on the glacier. There are serious concerns about adherence to wearing masks and it could potentially lead to early closure.
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Claude B wrote:
Just talking to someone who works on the glacier. There are serious concerns about adherence to wearing masks and it could potentially lead to early closure.


It is pretty universal. I came down with four ESF stagieres yesterday, all removed their masks in the cabin. After I asked, three of them guiltily replaced them, the fourth just pulled a thousand yard stare out the window...
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For me the point is that an individual cannot protect themselves. There are kids lifting their masks, picking bogies, then touching stuff. I also see a few people coughing, having the snots etc every day. I just dont believe that other people have the self discipline to not ski/get tested if they are ill.
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It is pretty universal. I came down with four ESF stagieres yesterday, all removed their masks in the cabin. After I asked, three of them guiltily replaced them, the fourth just pulled a thousand yard stare out the window...


I think I'd be complaining to the ESF. They should be setting an example. XAVIER SILLON is the Director. Really nice guy he took my daughter's etoile d'or class in 2007 Shocked
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What can I say!!! Les Duex Alpes is amazing!!! so much so we stayed another 2 nights, the skiing was spot on with the park being the highlight for me, my wife has come on leaps and bounds with help of Marco @proski, this guy is amazing! without a doubt, he went above and beyond and made our trip what it was!

The glacier was great, yeah it softened up by midday but by that point who cares it shuts a 1, swimming in the lakes, riding our bike, via Ferrata, 2 rounds of golf, watching the L2A skateboard competition Saturday, we literally didn't stop.

The first 2 days were very quiet but by the end of last week it had lived up to the point that everything was normal, restaurants shops and bars open with non-stop smiles everywhere.


@Claude B, apologies I didn't buy you that beer! as you can see we didn't stop, BUT I will be back 1000% and next time I shall be sure to thank you for all of your pre-trip advice, you are what a snowheads should be!!! Thank you
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@Noakes, No worries, glad you had a great time. I know Marco, yes he's a great guy. I was in Lyon for the weekend and when I drove down there was a lot of traffic heading for the mountains. Got back yesterday and its pretty busy here now. I had a job parking near mine. I suspect August will be very busy.
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@Noakes, No worries, glad you had a great time. I know Marco, yes he's a great guy. I was in Lyon for the weekend and when I drove down there was a lot of traffic heading for the mountains. Got back yesterday and its pretty busy here now. I had a job parking near mine. I suspect August will be very busy.


Decided finally to drive taking ferry tonight, exciting Smile
Is it ok to drop the car for a week at the car park at the beginning of the l2a? Is it free parking?
Beer from me for sure Smile
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@ed48, where are you staying? It's fairly busy but not too. You'll almost certainly be able to find free parking nearby.
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@ed48, didn’t have any issues parking even in the middle of town, you’re gonna have a great time & all the issue of the last few month will melt away once you’re there...
Have a great time...
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While I was having a little wander around yesterday I noticed that CDC Performance, aka Chemmy and Dougie Crawford are running a ski camp on the glacier for a couple of weeks. Saw Chemmy outside the chalet, they're using a couple of nice ones. Some of the french team stayed there recently. Pretty busy at the bottom of the "pistes" with family activities, carts, luge, tennis, crazy golf, swimming pool, bump track, skate park, etc, etc.

Also finally received 140€ refund on my season pass.
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Claude B wrote:
While I was having a little wander around yesterday I noticed that CDC Performance, aka Chemmy and Dougie Crawford are running a ski camp on the glacier for a couple of weeks. Saw Chemmy outside the chalet, they're using a couple of nice ones. Some of the french team stayed there recently. Pretty busy at the bottom of the "pistes" with family activities, carts, luge, tennis, crazy golf, swimming pool, bump track, skate park, etc, etc.

Also finally received 140€ refund on my season pass.


Have seen on her instagram that she's over there.

Looks great. I've never done any racing at all, but quite like the idea of tying together a summer holiday with some ski training. Need to get over to the alps one summer!
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She didn't recognise me wink My daughter skied with her at Hemel on a snowHead do in 2010 Very Happy

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Just got home after two weeks in L2A. I did one week of GS and one of SL with Podium. Highly, highly recommended. Skiing conditions were excellent, and there was plenty for the family too. Finished up with a parapente trip for me and the oldest daughter (7!)

Good food, good drinking and good people!
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The resort is also gentrifying fairly rapidly. I'm almost tempted to go back in the winter season snowHead
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Claude B wrote:
Just talking to someone who works on the glacier. There are serious concerns about adherence to wearing masks and it could potentially lead to early closure.


Oh, and even some well known UK skiing personalities had to be asked to put their masks on in the cabin lift... Not just the Italians!
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Just got home after two weeks in L2A. I did one week of GS and one of SL with Podium. Highly, highly recommended. Skiing conditions were excellent, and there was plenty for the family too. Finished up with a parapente trip for me and the oldest daughter (7!)

Good food, good drinking and good people!


Is this coaching aimed at only racers? Or could a non racer that fancies going along to improve general skiing go along?
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A typical group for Podium in mid-summer (and other similar operations) might include:

1- Some youngsters, say 12-20, who have racing experience. Often with a parent too!

2- Youngish folk, say 20-32 who are at various levels of BASI training, say level 2 onwards.

3- some old farts (I'm 39), who for various obscure reasons thought it was a good idea! For info, I started skiing around 28, and have no 'pro' background at all.

4- We were also very lucky to have two guide/skier pairs from the visually impaired racing scene this time. Extremely impressive skiing in gates!

I've always felt extremely welcome (especially when buying a round for the young thrusters!) and my skiing has improved beyond all recognition. I believe my first gates course was a 'racecarve' job with SnoWorks (also recommended). In general, the summer courses are the best to start with as they are very relaxed. Later on in the Autumn, it tends to get a bit more gungho, as the proportion of people close to e.g. Eurotest passes etc increases.

Note that these are definitely (IMV) coaching, not teaching courses, and use video review (which WILL be excruciating to see first time around!). Your areas to improve on will be identified, drills etc given, and it is up to the skier to make changes


Any more questions, feel free to PM. I'd also recommend just contacting e.g. Dave Morris at Podium, or Emma at SnoWorks.
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@JamesHJ, I briefly met Dave Morris last week.

Getting pretty busy generally here now. The annual Vintage Car Show attracted a lot of exhibitors and the atmosphere on Saturday was pretty cool with a lot of live music going on.



Upcoming events include the French MTB Championship 14 -16 August.

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Just returned from2 weeks stay in Les 2 Alpes, and must say that the perfect place for summer holiday, skiing on glacier, mtb in bike park, walks from the lifts and still huge possibility for proper wild mountain walks starting from Venosc! Will definitely return next year and still thinking of doing GR54 in September Smile

Thanks ClaudeB for your help and advice!

some photos here
https://photos.app.goo.gl/teG6QLK5uRBo6wTJ9

and some videos here Smile


http://youtube.com/v/Sih2wt-aTEw


http://youtube.com/v/l9uTUq0gZ7I


http://youtube.com/v/j0fGvmFX12g
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@ed48, Great to meet you. Super shots, I know you fitted a lot of different stuff in during your time here. See you again some time.
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Fête des Foins (hay festival) here this weekend. Guess it's similar to the harvest festival in UK. Obviously a commercial aspect but it's nice to see some traditions kept alive. Church service on the hill opposite mine this morning with traditional alpine clothes and alphorns.

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Much busier here now with the french holidays kicking in. Still not that bad though. Has been very warm but a big storm last night bought some relief. VTT event this weekend may bring some folks in.

Lightning over La Muzelle last night
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Just had a wander and people and kit are filling up the official areas for the mountain biking. A round of the Coupe de France Downhill MTB is taking place with practising and competitions taking place from tomorrow until Sunday. As well as all the top french riders (Loris Vergier, Amaury Pierron, Rémi Thirion, Thibaut Daprela, Myriam Nicole). Danny Hart (UK) and Greg Minaar (South Africa) are also taking part.

Roughly 500m of vertical descent it's forecast to take 4 minutes Shocked Although MTB isn't really my thing I'm always up for watching and photographing quality sport. I'll hike up to try to find a decent vantage point to take some shots.
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