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Les Arcs 2019 - 2020 (Useful links are added to the first post)

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Didn’t seem that much snow overnight but there are blasting so who knows.
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@thefatcontroller, Probably trying to trigger the wet avalanches lower down, as a result of the warm temps and the rain, that seems to be the biggest threat today
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@thefatcontroller,

Pouring with rain in Bourg overnight. What's it like up the mountain.?
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Arctic Roll wrote:
@thefatcontroller,

Pouring with rain in Bourg overnight. What's it like up the mountain.?


Cloudy, looks like it didn't snow much new overnight, will give it an hour or 2 to soften before boarding.

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Very warm when the sun was out today. Last nights promised snow didn't happen but conditions are great. By mid afternoon the snow had soften heavily but great for boarding. Only one photo today sorry. Home tomorrow to the madness that is the panic ridden UK, quote nice being up a mountain. For some reason we have lots of toilet rolls at the apartment, we are bringing them home, how forking mad has the world gone....

Safe travels out and home and see y'all next season....

At the top of Derby
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@timlongs, very pleasant little tipple you have there. Enjoyed in an extremely crowded bar this evening, good to see covid being given a proper gallic shrug.

Plagne today: huge queues for some lifts, straight on at others. But a different feel by driving to the cente rather than having to struggle out of Montchavin purely as a route march across the domain. Amazing difference in attitude. Nevertheless, Snow as predicted above very Very spring like.
So a week of different resorts ends, has been great. full report when I get back to a full sized keyboard!
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Les Arcs shut with immediate effect. Safe travels back for those that went out this weekend and to those that rely on skiing for their income this will be devastating. Good luck.

https://en.lesarcs.com/news/faq-about-covid-19.html
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Just for owners: did you all manage to get your apartments registered and classified for your points? I've done a quick run through of links and screen grabs for my 1950 owners, which I'd be willing to share if anyone is still wondering how to make it work.

AR
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Arctic Roll wrote:
Just for owners: did you all manage to get your apartments registered and classified for your points? I've done a quick run through of links and screen grabs for my 1950 owners, which I'd be willing to share if anyone is still wondering how to make it work.

AR
I took a look as the details emerged. Potential benefits were outweighed by the hassle of actually operating the system so I didn't bother with it. In terms of the empty beds challenge, I suppose the good news is that I'm not going to turn down bookings because of this scheme. However, it won't help me to temp skiers to come to Les Arcs rather than visit another resort, so I'm not sure what benefits the scheme will bring to Les Arcs itself.
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@Arctic Roll, @rob@rar, We are leaseback holders and we got registered, very painful process but but was worth it.
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@Arctic Roll, @rob@rar, We are leaseback holders and we got registered, very painful process but but was worth it.
Yes, if I was a leaseholder I would have worked my way through the registration. But as an independent owner / renter it just didn't seem worth it for me.
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@thefatcontroller, @rob@rar, it was a real pain at the beginning of the season but now it feels very straightforward. They have ironed out a lot of the faffing, although it is still a 3 step process thing. I only have a two bed room place, but reckon for 10€ a year we’ll get between 3 and 4 weeks of passes, so definitely worthwhile.
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Is watching snow melt on the live webcams an actual hobby?
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Has anyone had a refund for unused lift pass (not season pass)? My Easter trip next weekend is obviously not happening and filled in the forms a few weeks back.
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@thefatcontroller, I was meant to be going out tomorrow and looking at the livecams and all that snow just makes me cry.

@Arctic Roll, like @rob@rar, I thought it was a lot of hassle for limited rewards. I will look again for next season. "I only have a two bed room place" only!
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@Arctic Roll, yes please share you instructions.

@kitenski, We applied for refunds on our season passes and haven't heard anything yet. I suspect you'll get your money back but France is in a very sever lock down at the moment. So I suspect not much is happening.
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For anyone wanting a refund on their ski pass.

Here are the details of what to do.

SKI AREA CLOSING - COVID19 | 2020-03-15 2020-04-25

Description of the file constitution
- Repayment made after review of the file.

This refund will take place no later than three (3) months after receipt of all the documents relating to the claim for compensation.

Only complaints from customers who purchased their ski pass directly at ADS outlets, or on the online sales site www.lesarcs-peiseyvallandry.ski

If you have purchased your package from a travel operator (Tour Operator, Hotel, Real Estate Agency...) in package form, you depend on the general terms of sale of this operator and we invite you to contact this organization

To establish your please send us a copy of the following vouchers: the package and its proof (if you do not have a pass number yet assigned you can provide the corresponding field with 8 different characters), and for compensation by transfer: an RIB with IBAN and BIC

File Limit: within 2 months of the title's expiry date.

Use the link below.
https://ticketoski.fr/en/clientads/situation/778/dossier/add
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Apartment Owners : How to apply for points
(My original has lots of screen shots, but ICBA to work out how to do it on snowheads, so... trust me!)


STEP 1 Create an account at https://en.lesarcs.com by filling out the 'subscribe' form (you may already have one - in which case go straight to step 2)


STEP 2 Login, "Access my Account” / "acceder a mon compte"

STEP 3 Apply for classification.
Select “My Classified Apartments” ( Mes appartments classees) from the menu on the LHS. If you've already done one it will show up (including the Classification validity - mine runs until 2025) , otherwise there's a big blue button to "add a new apartment"

STEP 4 Fill Out the form that appears: it is quite long...

... and press “Register me for classification” . You will be taken to a payment screen, where they will demand your €50. Payable on-line, using your CC or Paypal


The Registration process will take between a few hours and a few days.
Once you are Registered , for Leasebackers ONLY: you will see the first tranche of points appear on your points account immediately. And you can spend them.

For private rentals, you will need to complete the Classification element before you start to see points appear.

(and for youse guys, there's a whole separate process to actually get points credited to your account for each bed-night you sell - but someone else will have to run through that because I'm not party to it).

Having Registered, they will then set up a visit to your apartment, to Classify it according to the local "Cristaux" system. They might ask you when you will be around, or ideally get someone else (like a concierge or syndic) to let them into the apartment. (Note: If you are a 1950 leasebacker, they are all graded the same, and have been done en bloc, so don't worry about this step - it will happen pretty automatically)

Once you are Classified, the extra Cristaux points will be added - a fixed amount for leaseback (depending on the critera awarded), for private rentals you are able to start earning.

( Side-bar: points are awarded based on Quality of apartment X Quantity of beds X no. of sales for private renters, Quality X Quantity X a arbitrary fixed number for Leasebacks. )

BUT: where are your points?

STEP 5

Go to https://proprietaires.lesarcs-peiseyvallandry.ski/

and use the same credentials as STEP 1 to log in

This will then show you how many points you have, and the catalogue of what you can spend them on, and how.



Simples...

Is it worth doing? Well, my points - 6 beds, 4 Cristaux, leaseback - get me about 3 weeks of Paradiski passes per season. or I could cash in for a Les Arcs Season pass. So yeah, For €10 I reckon it's worth it.
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@Arctic Roll, It was worth it for us too but being France they took a very simple system and have made it was too complicated and I think many haven't bothered signing up sadly.

Our process and we are leaseback was torture.
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@thefatcontroller, indeed - the bureaucracy, lack of transparency and changes since launch in both 'how to join' and 'how to redeem' have been staggering. Haven't they seen Game of Thrones: "Winter is coming"? What? here in a ski resort? Nah, yer 'aving a laff. We've got ages to sort this out...

And why you need two seperate websites with two seperate logins for the sign up and the redemption of points is beyond my ken.
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Just had a reply from ADS regarding Les Arcs lift pass refunds. They will refund me with €268 against the cost of my Paradiski season pass (which I think I paid €810 for?), credited back to my credit card within 10 days.

Have to say, very impressed. I wasn't going to bother with a claim, but ADS were very quick with setting up an online claim facility on their liftpass sales website, and emailed me direct to alert me to the facility to lodge a refund claim. I submitted a claim, which took about 3 minutes and generated an acknowledgement email for my claim, then a holding email a month ago to say they were busy, and today confirmation of the refund. Pretty good customer service!
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hmm that reminds me I've not seen the refund on 2 unused passes.... cheers!
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@rob@rar, Like you I received an email from ADS refunding 1/3 of my season pass. Very good service. I wasn't going to bother submitting a claim since I thought I'd had my use of the card and would actually only be losing 7 days sikking from it. The card will even be valid during the summer should the resort open. A quick calculation shows that I have spent 16 euros a day on my lift pass. Amazing value. I think I will squander the windfall in the Cairn and the Abrevoir during the summer

What I cannot quite comprehend is why they give a big discount to over 65s. I ski exactly the same pistes as my son yet he pays almost 50% more for his lift pass. My income is a lot more than his student grant.
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@rob@rar, good to hear.

I must set a reminder to turn off my Ski a la carte!
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Just received an email from the resort this morning anouncing that Les Arcs will be open from July 4th this year and that the funicular upto the resort will be free for pedestrians. I hope so.

We have rescheduled our Eurotunnel tickests for MidJuly so I hope we can make it.

Out of curiosity what did people make of the Folle Duce v's the Arpette this year?

We thought the Folle Duce was OK, the burger bar gave a reasnoble meal, but was more expensive than the Rocky Mountain in 1600. Coffee in the morning was pleasant. We stopped once or twice for drinks in the afternoon. They were cheapish but we had to leave early to get the last lift so missed the danicing girls and other entertainment. Would it be worth staying later and getting the bus home?

Sadly the Arpette seemed to go downhill but still appeared very popular in the early evening. We used to stop their a lot for a drink before returning to 1600 as it got dark, but in attempt to compete with the Folle Duce they started playing terrible music at painfully high volumes. We migrated to the even more expensive smoking boar for our apre ski drink. I'm not sure why we never visited the Altiport - perhaps because all our skiing was early in the season and the fun of the water splash not in use.
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+1 on lift pass refunds. My bank account has just been refunded with the weeks family pass for 5 that we didn't get to use at Easter.

I have put the money to one side and will be taking the kids to the Snowcentre once this is all over. Very Happy
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Just received an email from news-lesacrs.com informing me that work on the Vallandry telecabine has been postponed until Spring 2021.
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Just as a note for future years I see it is snowing heavily in Arc200 at the moment - the last day of April
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What was the official closing date this season?
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27th April
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@ringingmaster, I thought the official closing date was the Saturday, the 25.
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@johnE, You are probably right - just realised I was looking at 2018/19
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Snow would have been too late then.

Imagine how pee'd off we would have been Very Happy Very Happy
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I just had to post this link to the webcams for today. Take a look at the snow in Les Arcs right now. After what would have been a very sunny end to the season without much snow, although we could have still been skiing! Just like the last few seasons, as soon as the lifts close we get a dump of snow at the beginning of May.

http://m.webcam-hd.com/lesarcs/arcabulle

I wonder with the lockdown rules soon changing how many people will get the skins or snowshoes out and go in the mountains for a play!!

In other news. For all those that have requested a lift pass refund, be patient as the office in Les Arcs has had many applications and is slowly working through them all. As long as you provided the correct info you will get your refund.

The unofficial, official news is that they hope to open the lifts for summer activities from the 4/5 July weekend until the 29 August, although this does depend on the local conditions regarding the Virus by that time.

I hope everyone is well and staying safe whilst reading this post. Good luck with the lockdown still continuing for a few more weeks.

https://en.lesarcs.com/livecam-1800.html
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