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Maria Alm DIY

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This will be my first DIY trip and want to return to Maria Alm, can't stop thinking about the place!

Ski passes - do they start on Saturdays? Can I choose what day I want it to start?
Transfer - what are my cheapest options?
Best airport to fly to?

Any advice is appreciated!


Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 30-08-19 15:54; edited 1 time in total
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@NewSki, you can choose the day you want, just walk up to the cash desk and buy it on the day. Fly into Salzburg. You could do Innsbruck if more convenient; it's about 45 mins further away
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holidayloverxx wrote:
@NewSki, you can choose the day you want, just walk up to the cash desk and buy it on the day. Fly into Salzburg. You could do Innsbruck if more convenient; it's about 45 mins further away


Which ever airport is easier for the transfer!
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Passes - see https://tickets.skiamade.com/en for prices and options, you can start any day you like and buy as many days as you want. Discounts are rare in Austria - the online price is the same as walking up to the ticket office at 8am on your first day.

Transfer - look at https://fahrplan.oebb.at/bin/query.exe/en? and search between your chosen airport and Maria Alm Ortsmitte. As an example, bus 260 goes from Salzburg Airport to Saalfelden, and then bus 620 from Saalfelden to Maria Alm, for a 1:38 transfer time and a cost of about €30 each way, but it can be twice as long depending on the time of day. If you prefer a taxi, see https://www.shuttledirect.com/en/destination/at/maria-alm-am-steinernen-meer.html though this will be expensive unless you have 6-8 people and can share a minibus. Or Holiday Shuttle can do it for €84 per person return - see https://www.holiday-shuttle.at/images/downloads/HolidayShuttle_Flyer_Winter_ENG.pdf

Airport - definitely Salzburg, although Innsbruck can work if that's easier for you and you are prepared to take the risk of delays or diversion
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Salzburg is the closest airport, although klagenfurt, Innsbruck, Munich, are all doable if your flight are a problem.
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Ski passes start any day but you might well find that accommodation doesn't.
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Fabulous area, am I to assume DIY is the only option with all the Brit' tour ops having dropped it?
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
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Rogerdodger wrote:
Fabulous area, am I to assume DIY is the only option with all the Brit' tour ops having dropped it?

It's about 5 years since I was there but we went to a catered chalet operated by a Dutch company. There were at least two of them but I'm afraid I can't remember the name now. Try google?
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Skifix operate in the area and will do everything but the fights. Agreed, it is a great place to ski!
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With regards to the slope conditions in Maria Alm, do they have a history of being groomed even with bad snowfall? (Veterans please help)
When I visited before it was the worst snow in 10 years according to some 100cm in 5 days but the pistes were perfectly groomed everyday! Very enjoyable!

There was lots of snow in Saalbach and the pistes remained ungroomed, personally I didn't like skiing ungroomed pistes through snow and moguls. Does the size of a resort have any impact on wether the pistes get groomed or not during bad snow?

Maybe I'm being super super pedantic? but the ungroomed pistes in Saalbach ruined my trip this year. There is nothing better than skiing on groomed pistes. Perfect!
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Umm, all pistes are groomed every night, certainly where I am in Ski Amade. However, with snowfall throughout the night leaving a fresh layer on the top, then a few turns by the first skiers, then yes, after even half hour of the slope opening it can appear that the piste has not been groomed at all and it is bumpy. Ange
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@NewSki, Saalbach tends to groom slopes every day, but clearly when there has been a heavy overnight snowfall it doesn't take much for the slopes to develop moguls again especially on slopes where lots of people are putting in lots of turns, e.g. on the lower section of the Hochalm slope at the end of Hinterglemm, or on Turm in Saalbach.

The piste bashers are not used during opening hours for safety reasons.

Maria Alm operates in the same way, and has the same issues when the bashers finish at 3am and the snow starts at 4 and continues heavily throughout the day.

"Worst snow in 10 years" = "100cm in 5 days" ... most skiers would call that good snow, and revel in it. Yes, skiing cut up snow is harder at first, but eventually you will learn to ski through it rather than around it, and then it becomes fun.
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@NewSki, As others have said, all the pistes in Saalbach are groomed every night, so normally, first thing in the morning, you would be skiing on pistes that are as flat as a pancake, with a surface like corduroy. Last season we had massive amounts of snow, which often frustrated the nocturnal piste-grooming (as it would anywhere if heavy snow was falling throughout the night), but on the other hand provided ample opportunity for practising skiing in deep powder and mogully conditions. Such challenging conditions can be off-putting for some, but it's all part of skiing. I've found that the best answer is to try to think positive and to thank nature for giving you the chance to gain experience and develop technique in different conditions. The only other thing worth mentioning is that the choice of skis can make a difference, so, if you find yourself struggling in difficult conditions, it might be worth speaking to your equipment provider (e.g. Hansi in Saalbach) to see if they recommend swapping to a different ski. Also, needless to say, a two hour private lesson can make a big difference.
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@NewSki, no doubt skiing perfect corduroy is fun and very easy to ski, but it never lasts long. If you get the first lift in the morning you might get two runs if you are lucky. After that the state of the pistes depends on a number of things, number of skiers, type of snow, temperature, steepness of the piste etc. On piste conditions tend to be at their best from mid December through to mid February simply as this is when the temperatures are lowest, often not rising above freezing during the day and the power of the sun is not so high. At this time when there is good snow you can often hear the snow "squeak" under your skis, compressed snow easily keeps its shape and it takes a lot of skiers using the piste to cut up the surface. The downside is that, especially on steeper slopes, the snow can get scraped away leaving exposed patches of ice. As conditions get warmer (or if there is a lot of fresh snow) the surface of the piste is less able to keep its shape especially when there are lots of skiers.

It could well be that smaller resorts, especially if they have shady or north facing pistes, appear to have better prepared pistes. There is a lot less area to deal with and likely to be less people skiing on the pistes.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
pam w wrote:
Ski passes start any day but you might well find that accommodation doesn't.


you're correct, the hotels online booking system doesn't like my dates!
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Finding it difficult to work out pricing structures for 4 and 5 day passes, my accommodation is for 5 nights arriving on a Saturday and leaving on a Thursday which only gives me 4 full days skiing.
I would prefer 5 full days skiing but if I buy the 5 day pass I will only get to ski a few hours on first day of arrival! Will the price justify the extra day of skiing?
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@NewSki, see if they let you on the lifts on the afternoon of your first day, even though your pass starts the next day (as they do in Saalbach).
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