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Portes du Soleil - Avoriaz/Morzine/Les Gets/Chatel etc - 19/20

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2 inches of wet snow fell overnight at 1250m, it was rain down at 1100m.
@pdsguy, your drive looks ok though Smile
The kids did Praz de Lys a few years back - I feel ashamed as I have never been in Winter.
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Looks like the forecasts are predicting even more snow from Thursday next week now!

Can any one recommend a good instructor for a 2 hour private lesson next Friday for two beginners?
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@Roscoe, Not sure where you will be based, but All Mountain Sports in Morzine would be my recommendation and worth a try.
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@Roscoe, Not sure where you will be based, but All Mountain Sports in Morzine would be my recommendation and worth a try.
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@Roscoe, Not sure where you will be based, but All Mountain Sports in Morzine would be my recommendation and worth a try.


Sorry I should have said. We're based on Les Gets, just a stones throw away from the Chavannes Express lift.
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Instructor - Lionel @ Synergieski https://www.morzineskimtb.com
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Anyone local able to confirm if much snow has fallen overnight in LG? Flying out for a week on the 18th so all top ups before then are gratefully received
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@pdsguy, your drive looks ok though

Excellent! Could do without lots of digging on Thursday night...
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@Rebelbrowser, I went up for a slide this morning, doing all the blue runs for Roscoe Very Happy ....easily 5cm fresh squeaky snow. I would say 3cm in the village and 5-6cm above 1400m. Not enough to make the offpiste much fun, but the pistes are in excellent condition
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@Rebelbrowser, I went up for a slide this morning, doing all the blue runs for Roscoe Very Happy ....easily 5cm fresh squeaky snow. I would say 3cm in the village and 5-6cm above 1400m. Not enough to make the offpiste much fun, but the pistes are in excellent condition


Thanks @polo Laughing Going above and beyond!! Much appreciated!
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@Roscoe, you haven't seen the video yet.....was still snowing lightly most of the morning, turning to rain at village around midday. Gotta say the only forecast that I read that called this accurately all week was the WRF model. Many others went for none. Link below...also have Arome and GFS pages there, and the diagramme ensembles. I find Arome always understates precip, GFS often overstates it and moves around a lot, worth keeping an eye on all 3 pages, but over time WRF appears the most accurate.

http://www.meteociel.fr/previsions-neige-wrf/27685/les_gets.htm
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From Chatelsnowreport:

Expected Snowfall At 1200m: From 7am today until 7am tomorrow:

​Forecast Range: 0cm to 2cm
Forecast Amount: Dusting



Expected Snowfall At 1800m: From 7am today until 7am tomorrow:



Forecast Range: 0cm to 5cm

Forecast Amount: 2cm

That doesn't sound too far out
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Right this vid is not my best piece of work......I don't normally record a few cm's of piste sliding, never mind 4mins of it. But it shows how good the conditions are above 1400, and also how sketchy it still is towards 1300m. Went around the new reservoir in the bowl, and also down new Cyclamen piste. It's still not appearing on all the maps, so it is literally empty every time I take it down. Quite long at 2km, there is a very flat part in the middle, but the last section has a series of nice wide corners, before joining forest track back to QG (which is also quite flat). I had to speed up the video a lot towards the end to fit it in....so not great vid quality.

Order of the blues I did are Violette, Reine des Pres (note the family stuck at a little dip at top, so needs speed to get up the other side), Renardiere, Cyclamen, La Croix


CYCLAMEN info
Difficulté : Bleue
Longueur : 2 km
Dénivellation : 340 m
Altitude de départ : 1650 m
Altitude d'arrivée : 1310 m
Pente moyenne : 17 %
Surface : 3.65 ha


http://youtube.com/v/Bm4wc2sk6wI
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@polo, thanks for this. Conditions look better than I was expecting (guessing the little bit of fresh helped!).
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Right this vid is not my best piece of work......I don't normally record a few cm's of piste sliding, never mind 4mins of it. But it shows how good the conditions are above 1400, and also how sketchy it still is towards 1300m. Went around the new reservoir in the bowl, and also down new Cyclamen piste. It's still not appearing on all the maps, so it is literally empty every time I take it down. Quite long at 2km, there is a very flat part in the middle, but the last section has a series of nice wide corners, before joining forest track back to QG (which is also quite flat). I had to speed up the video a lot towards the end to fit it in....so not great vid quality.

Order of the blues I did are Violette, Reine des Pres (note the family stuck at a little dip at top, so needs speed to get up the other side), Renardiere, Cyclamen, La Croix


CYCLAMEN info
Difficulté : Bleue
Longueur : 2 km
Dénivellation : 340 m
Altitude de départ : 1650 m
Altitude d'arrivée : 1310 m
Pente moyenne : 17 %
Surface : 3.65 ha


http://youtube.com/v/Bm4wc2sk6wI


This is amazing!! Thanks Polo!!
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La la la la la la.....happy to help, the pleasure was mine etc....I think we are going to need more miracles next weekend
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Unbelievable amount of people getting stretchered off the mountains yesterday. Constant buzz of snow mobiles (blood wagons) back and forth, saw at least 7 people taken down between 2 and 4pm.

Big crowd of Roma community in town this week. But think it’s just the usual busy weekend crowd skiing too fast on hard slopes. Much quieter and safer mon-fri of course.

Forecast still for snow next Sat, most models now on board, but still disagreement on potential quantities, will have a good idea by Tuesday.
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@polo, any nice chalky stuff up high?
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@Mother hucker, yep Chamossiere was lovely all day, also my kid tells me MC still nice. Best snow tends to be in piles in the middle of steep pistes, or my favourite as a boarder is to hug the piste edge where all the chalky scrappings are.
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@polo, helicopter as well from near Indian village just after lunch. Chamossiere was, as you say, brilliant. The runs down to the Atray were hard but good fun with good edges and very quiet. Tulipe was manic. Melezes was quiet. Sat watching the carnage of first day skiers making their way through the moguls on the final pitch of Gentiane.
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@polo, I think that this is the start of "Canada Goose" week.
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bit of decent snow showing up Friday now , fingers crossed
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Champoussin Morgins lovely today, Avoriaz waay too crowded, not surprised the blood wagons were busy. What's Canada Goose week?
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@shep, a reference to the high end fashion that certain youth like to wear. I don't want to stereotype, but this particular group of visitors come in large numbers, with all the latest brands.
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@shep, a reference to the high end fashion that certain youth like to wear. I don't want to stereotype, but this particular group of visitors come in large numbers, with all the latest brands.


A local explained to us in Avoriaz last season how the nationalities tended to demographically distribute themselves throughout the season, i.e. French, Brits, Ruskies, etc. I can't remember which weeks saw peaks in which. Puzzled

There's probably also variations due to xmas/easter/school holidays, etc.

Seasonally varying accommodation prices are also going to bias punters by respective budget (especially the new 5 star apartments in Avoriaz).
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@crosbie, sounds right, but myself and Timc were referring to the large Roma community that visit PdS early Jan every year....I believe they sometimes head to Avoriaz and Morzine, but LG seems to be the choice (at least for several hundred of them) the last few years
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@polo, how do you know they're Roma? Do they all turn up in horse driven caravans? Or do you recognise them by their language? Or, how precisely do you tie their fashion to their ethnicity?
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Ah Yes, I'm aware of the phenomena, just not the fashion reference. I remember handguns being brandished in The Place in Avoriaz, and Guy Dupuis the owner taking them on with a baseball bat... Confused
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@crosbie, language, skin complexion, clothes/fashion, group behaviour.....and the fact that everyone is talking about them
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@crosbie, language, skin complexion, clothes/fashion, group behaviour.....and the fact that everyone is talking about them


I assume this group does actually engage in winter sports?

Or are they simply visiting one of their traditional stops on their European itinerary, as they've done since time immemorial - before skiing became a leisure activity?
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@crosbie, no idea of the history, but yes they enjoy the slopes as badly as any other group
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@shep, Ditto Les Crosets and Planachaux, great at there yesterday.
@crosbie, Pikey week has been a thing in Avoriaz for years.
When we had our restaurant, that week we had loads of stuff stolen - cutlery (Steak Knives) cruet sets, a vase, a picture ....
Many of the (adult) customers could not read, and would get others to read the menus for them, and they did not expect to pay full price.
They lied about what they had had, expected free drinks, and at then end of the meal they gathered round and intimidated my staff while they were trying to collect payment - just an awful experience.
In the end we just put reserved signs on all the tables and I vetted customers as they came through the door, and if I didn't like the cut of their jib, I just said the place was full and reserved for a private function.
Our friends who had a ski shop had loads of sunglasses stolen as well as some pairs rental skis that were outside.
There were so many fights, that the gendarmes drafted in re-enforcements and there was a visible presence outside the bars and club in the evenings.
This is was such a contrast to the rest if the season.
I was always happy once we moved into the end of January.
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@WindOfChange, an underlying 'them & us' kind of attitude I guess. Confused I don't suppose they contributed in terms of culturally enriching the place during their stay, music, dance, etc.
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@WindOfChange, is it Roma week or fortnight?
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@crosbie, TBH I was taken a back the first year.
There seemed to be an expectation that because there was a group of 40 of came to the restaurant, they could do what they liked and pay for as little as they wanted. All though the families were smart enough to arrive in groups of 4, it was clear they were all one big group.
This was one of the worst experiences ever for me, my wife and our staff.

In terms of culturally enriching ... some of the fights drew in a few onlookers, and we got used to drinking from plastic glasses that week.
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@Mt, Used to be 2 weeks, but fewer the 2nd week.
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Amazing snow forecast from Friday! Saturday up to 33cm! Assuming these will be a lot more reliable only 3/4 days out. Great for the piste but maybe not my two days of skiing (fri & sat)
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Should I be concerned about the Roma week thing? We have booked flights but held off booking accommodation because of the dry spell. We are looking for a family holiday and had heard great things about Les Gets as a family destination.
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@Mt, No, I would not worry about it - enjoy your holiday.
They were stealing from business owners like me (not holiday makers), and most of the fights seemed to be between members of the same family.
Outside of that they were way better behaved than groups Uni Students, and there were no issues on the slopes.
IMHO Les Gets is a great resort for families, beginners and intermediate skiers.
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