Poster: A snowHead
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After a recent trip to Aviemore for first ever shot on a snowboard, I absolutely loved it! I borrowed my kit from mates but was wondering if the powder/snow skirt featured on any mountain jackets or if it was only a snowsports specific feature. I know the latter is logical but I figured there are prob a fair few people who do both and wondered what was out there. Hands up I'm utterly ignorant by the way!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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bib pants
1 extra pocket
no snow skirt required
no snow getting down your back bottom crack
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Pradela, personally, I don’t worry about one. Haven’t had one on my last couple of jackets.
Situations where it might be required...
1. Falling often onto your back. It won’t protect you.
2. Spin drift from helicopter rotor wash. You won’t care.
3. Can’t think of a 3rd.
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@Pradela,
some mountaineering shell jackets come with powder skirts but I agree with @under a new name, I don't find they make much difference and are a little (only a little) extra faff
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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under a new name wrote: |
... 2. Spin drift from helicopter rotor wash. You won’t care. ... |
And as you're well trained you'll be looking directly at the machine, so the skirt's irrelevant there too.
I do use them, but more to stop them hanging down that anything else.
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@Pradela, welcome to snowheads
Though I started skiing wearing an anorak and jeans, my normal moutain wear I now do not wear a mountain jacket. outside of skiing I wear a T shirt, a jumper (both made of man made fibres) and take what is known as a belay jacket and a very lightweight waterproof jacket. In my dotage I even carry waterproof overtrousers. I certainly do not use those expensive heavy, thick gortex jackets. But I do use a thick gortex jacket for skiing.
If you have a mountain jacket aleady then it will be fine for skiing and boarding and I admire someone who breaks the fashion concenious snowboarding mould.
I'm not sure snowskirts serve any useful purpose. One hot day the snow was very slushy so I thought I would try snowboarding. It was hot and sweaty so I untid my jacket fully. Except the snow skirt/ The snow skirt may have helped as a funnel directing slush into my trousers until they were full. Even (for @Mr.Egg) my pants were full. The shivering afterwards was epic.
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On my Mountain Equipment Changabang jacket the zip off snow skirt is actually pretty handy for keeping warmth in, I only tend to wear a shell and base layer down to about -10C as I ski hot. But these days I usually wear a closer fitting soft shell. If you are doing a lot of off piste in deep snow they are useful, for general skiing probably not.
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My latest jacket has a snow skirt. If there was an option to unzip it, I would due to the faff. Bib pants are better if you are worried about snow in your pants
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The skirt is very much a snow thing, I've not seen it on any other type of 'technical' (wanky) jacket.
Personally quite like 'em as it keeps the warmth in a little. Probably has helped me a few times getting wet if I've taken a quick lie down ever.
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There is an elasticated flappy bit in my Wedze coat, but I never knew it had a name or even a useful function.
Up until this point I though it was to keep snow in my jacket and stop it falling out the bottom, aiding muscle pain in the lumber region.
My crashes are mainly head first, so the point of ingress for snow is generally the neck.
Now I know what it is for I'll start using it properly.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Legend.,
technical =/= "wanky". Technical just means typically has features that your average one week a year holiday skier is never going to need.
But if you are often in a situation where you do want/need them, then you really do. It may be overused, but you don't see many Nevica "technical" jackets around Chamonix. Not to say that you don't see lots of people in jackets too "technical" for their likely use-envelope.
My last mountain jacket which was technically aimed at winter mountaineering (circa 2002) but was excellent for skiing had a snow skirt.
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You know it makes sense.
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Skirt are designed to prevent powder snow to get into the jacket and to provide some air tightening. All my jackets have one, and I very seldom use them, only when it is very windy.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@proskilab, is it thread reanimation after 7 weeks whereas resurrection needs 7 years?
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