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Nikwax spray
 Poster: A snowHead
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I've just been using some Nikwax spray on my ski jacket. Thing is it looks, feels and smells like diluted PVA. rolling eyes

I've used diluted PVA for many things in the past:- sealing fresh plaster and concrete, barrier on walls to combat damp, that sort of thing.

It must be more than PVA surely to retail at such a price Puzzled - or does anyone know different?
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person

Pretty good nose, can't believe you missed the coconut finish:

Nick(NikWax)Brown wrote:

Coating compositions based on ethylene vinyl acetate polymers have improved compatibility with solvents (especially with aliphatic hydrocarbon solvents) hydrocarbon oils, and mineral waxes by blending the EVA with a fatty acid and heating at or above the melting point of the EVA. Furthermore the resultant blends are much more easily emulsified in the presence of cations than blends which have not been processed with the fatty acids. Typically the starting material for the improved product of this invention is a composition comprising a blend of an EVA polymer and a fatty acid which is miscible in all proportions with mineral spirits at 25 DEG C or forms a solution at a level 5 % of fatty acid in mineral spirits, such as coconut or palm fatty acids. Also disclosed is that the addition of a salt of an amine acetic acid in sufficient quantity to an acidified salt of zirconium (for example EDTA and zirconium acetate) forms a novel emulsifying agent, and this emulsifying system is used advantageously with the described EVA/fatty acid blends.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?

comprex, I reckon that his patent attorney wrote that for him.
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richmond, watch out, SZK is bored already.
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 Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.

On the Nikwax front heard recently that there is some silicone containing fabric conditioner that is a) lots cheaper and b) performs almost as well as Nikwax wash-in. Anyone know about this?
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fatbob, fabric conditioners have had silicones in them for years now. I just used an ultra-concentrate on my Camelbak to get the straps nice and soft and chafe-free. Were you thinking of fluoros like 303?
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Comprex, Thanks for the Nik(Nikwax) extract. I've read it 3 times now and wouldn't fancy having to explain it to anyone else. Confused Must confess I missed the smell of coconut though.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!

Hehe - forget the technical crap Nikwax i've found WORKS. I bet now there are other alternatives but to be honest, I only reproof my gear (all my climbing gear etc) irregularly - perhaps after a week of heavy use in the Peak District or something Smile - or if they start to "wet out", so the amount of times I need to use it is rare which stops me being so bothered about the cost.

The fact is it won't really be better than when your gear left the factory, so anything you use is a freshner and won't be AS permanent. I know what you mean about the plastic smell, one of my jackets smelt a bit like one of the things you buy for £2 out of a vending machine in public loos Shocked

If you use nikwax (et al) correctly - it will enhance the lifespan of your gear. I find new fashions, "technologies" and just the whole money-burning-pocket thing kill the lifespan of my gear more of a problem, shame Nikwax can't fix that!!! snowHead
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