Poster: A snowHead
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If not then please refer to them by their English job titles:
Piste Worker
Lift Worker
This is a pet hate of mine. Anyone else want to share their pet hates of the otherwise lovely snowHeads board?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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xyzpaul, So do object to the use of the words "schuss" and "piste"?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Serial contradictors.
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xyzpaul wrote: |
If not then please refer to them by their English job titles:
Piste Worker
Lift Worker
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Bwahahahahahahahaha that is just excellent, I wonder which English dictionary you found the word "Piste" in?
Just to pass out the cluesticks the usual "English" terms are
Ski Patroller
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Lift Operator
although please feel free to use whatever terms you like, I can just see you out with the bros and saying "hey dudes, lets score us some sex workers and go back to my hotel room and do a few rails of okey-doke".
Yes yes, I'm taking the pisteur... sorry
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Wed 22-03-06 19:46; edited 4 times in total
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Not friends, but nodding aquaintances and p*ss takers yes
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davidof,
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xyzpaul, who rattled your cage?!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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xyzpaul, none of the pistuers or lifties that I know work in England, what is your point?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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boredsurfin, us too, we have had one offer to make us a guitar for my son, another thinks my hubby is the local p*sshead (probably true), and asks him when the live music is on in the local bar. As far as I was aware they are known as pisteurs.
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xyzpaul wrote: |
If not then please refer to them by their English job titles:
Piste Worker
Lift Worker
This is a pet hate of mine. Anyone else want to share their pet hates of the otherwise lovely snowHeads board? |
One of my pet hates is job descriptions ending "worker". "Human rights worker" is a particular bug bear, which generally means "axe-grinding pot-stirrer" (try doing those at the same time - it takes years of training). "Pisteur" and "liftie" are just fine by me.
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You know it makes sense.
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laundryman, co-worker! need I say more
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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someone is taking the p1ss...
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Poster: A snowHead
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bh1, loving the give a damn thing!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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David Murdoch wrote: |
someone is taking the p1ss... |
Yes and it was very funny too although I'm sure we could come up with better terms, how about?
Vertical Transportation Facilitator
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Uplift capacity management operative
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Right, definitely time for me to retire for the night, I've spent the last couple of minutes trying to tie in the above two terms with davidof's "sex worker".
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UpsidePunterScooperZoomemUpdaMountainWorker
DownsideStraightNnarrowKeepemOnitChasemOffDaHillIsGettingDarkNdontBeLateWorker
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davidof, Is it true that to become a "Pisteur" one has to pass the slalom speed test carrying a large walkie talkie, a rucksack the size of a small shed, a Hilti drill, some netting, and a pallet of marker poles?.
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Any online English dictionary will confirm that:
"Piste" is an English word, copied from French.
"Pisteur" is not an English word.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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xyzpaul wrote: |
"Pisteur" is not an English word. |
We're not French. There's no formal procedure for admitting words to the English language. If 'pisteur' is understood by a group of English speakers, then it's just as much part of the language as, say, 'chav'.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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xyzpaul wrote: |
Any online English dictionary will confirm that:
"Piste" is an English word, copied from French.
"Pisteur" is not an English word. |
I still can't decide if you are joking or serious?
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What is a pisteur, or a piste worker? It is a very vague description. Does it mean someone who patrols the piste? Do they also patrol off piste? Is it someone who does work on the piste, such as a piste basher driver, or maybe a ski instructor?
If you mean a patroller, i.e. someone who patrols the slopes, then use that name, cause that's what they do.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Wear The Fox Hat, naw, use pisteur cos then everyone will know what you're talking about.
xyzpaul, do you also hate the use of "bobbies" for police workers, "clippy" for onboard bus ticket inspection workers or "jakey" for methylated spirit imbiber and social ingrate unworker?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
What is a pisteur It is a very vague description. |
Why do you say that? A pisteur is someone who holds one of the various levels of "pisteur" qualifications awarded by the ENSA in Chamonix or foreign equivalent. A pisteur is specifically responsible for accident prevention in the ski domain: evacuation of injured people, avalanche search and rescue, first aid, marking of dangers, piste markings. Optionally a pisteur may be involved in avalanche prevention with explosives and avalanche forecasting.
Piste Worker just struck me as oxymoronic, a mixture of French and English words but as bh1 says if both are in the OED (neither in my dictionary but it is possibly too small) then fair enough.
Liftie I assume is a corruption of lift operator or lift man.
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David Murdoch wrote: |
Wear The Fox Hat, naw, use pisteur cos then everyone will know what you're talking about.
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I would say that's a bit of a big assumption.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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davidof, it may be a standard French description for a French qualification, but is it the same word used in German, Italian, etc, and does it have the same meaning, or even, dare I say it, "outside Europe"?
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Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
davidof, it may be a standard French description for a French qualification, but is it the same word used in German, Italian, etc, and does it have the same meaning, or even, dare I say it, "outside Europe"? |
That was the OP's point and I agree but he suggested two alternatives that are not in common usage one including the stem of the French word he objected to. I assumed he was having a joke but maybe not? Piste isn't that well understood in the US I find - ski run or slope seems more usual.
Here are some suggestions for other languages:
pattugliatore (it)
patrouilleur (swiss france, germanic countries)
anyone like to confirm?
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Frosty the Snowman, yes, the chief pisteur in La Rosiere is very much our friend, he's also the local plumber.
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There are no friends on a powder day...
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What's a piste-basher driver called?
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xyzpaul wrote: |
What's a piste-basher driver called? |
"Sir" if he's heading toward you, "Jesus!" when he's almost on you and "Oh ****" when it's too late?
...and "God" if the lifts have closed and he's taking hitch-hikers...
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If you were run over by the track of a piste pasher in soft snow, would it kill you? (presuming the grooming attachment fails to shred you)
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