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Are "Pisteurs" and "Lifties" your personal friends?

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If not then please refer to them by their English job titles:

Piste Worker
Lift Worker

This is a snowHead pet hate of mine. Anyone else want to share their pet hates of the otherwise lovely snowHeads board?
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xyzpaul, So do object to the use of the words "schuss" and "piste"?

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xyzpaul, how many Pisteurs and Lifties have "English job titles" (aside from those at Milton Keynes et al) ??? Puzzled

bh1, Laughing Laughing thought I had a virus at first... especially when the cancel button wouldn't respond!
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Isn't Pisteur a perfectly acceptable French job title ??
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xyzpaul wrote:
If not then please refer to them by their English job titles:
Piste Worker
Lift Worker


Bwahahahahahahahaha that is just excellent, I wonder which English dictionary you found the word "Piste" in?

Just to pass out the cluesticks the usual "English" terms are

Ski Patroller

and

Lift Operator

although please feel free to use whatever terms you like, I can just see you out with the bros and saying "hey dudes, lets score us some sex workers and go back to my hotel room and do a few rails of okey-doke". Laughing

Yes yes, I'm taking the pisteur... sorry


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xyzpaul, none of the pistuers or lifties that I know work in England, what is your point?
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boredsurfin, us too, we have had one offer to make us a guitar for my son, another thinks my hubby is the local p*sshead (probably true), and asks him when the live music is on in the local bar. As far as I was aware they are known as pisteurs.
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xyzpaul wrote:
If not then please refer to them by their English job titles:

Piste Worker
Lift Worker

This is a snowHead pet hate of mine. Anyone else want to share their pet hates of the otherwise lovely snowHeads board?

One of my pet hates is job descriptions ending "worker". "Human rights worker" is a particular bug bear, which generally means "axe-grinding pot-stirrer" (try doing those at the same time - it takes years of training). "Pisteur" and "liftie" are just fine by me.
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laundryman, co-worker! need I say more Evil or Very Mad
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someone is taking the p1ss...
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someone is taking the p1ss...


Yes and it was very funny too although I'm sure we could come up with better terms, how about?

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Right, definitely time for me to retire for the night, I've spent the last couple of minutes trying to tie in the above two terms with davidof's "sex worker". rolling eyes
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davidof, Is it true that to become a "Pisteur" one has to pass the slalom speed test carrying a large walkie talkie, a rucksack the size of a small shed, a Hilti drill, some netting, and a pallet of marker poles?.
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Any online English dictionary will confirm that:

"Piste" is an English word, copied from French.
"Pisteur" is not an English word.
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xyzpaul wrote:
"Pisteur" is not an English word.


We're not French. There's no formal procedure for admitting words to the English language. If 'pisteur' is understood by a group of English speakers, then it's just as much part of the language as, say, 'chav'.
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xyzpaul wrote:
Any online English dictionary will confirm that:

"Piste" is an English word, copied from French.
"Pisteur" is not an English word.


I still can't decide if you are joking or serious?
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What is a pisteur, or a piste worker? It is a very vague description. Does it mean someone who patrols the piste? Do they also patrol off piste? Is it someone who does work on the piste, such as a piste basher driver, or maybe a ski instructor?

If you mean a patroller, i.e. someone who patrols the slopes, then use that name, cause that's what they do.
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xyzpaul wrote:
Any online English dictionary will confirm that:

"Piste" is an English word, copied from French.
"Pisteur" is not an English word.




It's not a question of whether a word is 'English' or not, it is whether it is, for all intents and purposes, formally recognised as a word in the English language. Piste and pisteur are both listed in the Oxford Concise English Dictionary 1995 on page 1040, thereby making no distinction between your "is" and "is not". They are both words that are formally recognised in the English language. As you might say "... end of..."

As for you "Any online English dictionary will confirm" assertion, I know which source I'd rather pay credence to. I suppose that you believe all that you read in Wikipedia?



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Wear The Fox Hat, naw, use pisteur cos then everyone will know what you're talking about.

xyzpaul, do you also hate the use of "bobbies" for police workers, "clippy" for onboard bus ticket inspection workers or "jakey" for methylated spirit imbiber and social ingrate unworker?
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Wear The Fox Hat wrote:
What is a pisteur It is a very vague description.


Why do you say that? A pisteur is someone who holds one of the various levels of "pisteur" qualifications awarded by the ENSA in Chamonix or foreign equivalent. A pisteur is specifically responsible for accident prevention in the ski domain: evacuation of injured people, avalanche search and rescue, first aid, marking of dangers, piste markings. Optionally a pisteur may be involved in avalanche prevention with explosives and avalanche forecasting.

Piste Worker just struck me as oxymoronic, a mixture of French and English words but as bh1 says if both are in the OED (neither in my dictionary but it is possibly too small) then fair enough.

Liftie I assume is a corruption of lift operator or lift man.


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David Murdoch wrote:
Wear The Fox Hat, naw, use pisteur cos then everyone will know what you're talking about.



I would say that's a bit of a big assumption.
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davidof, it may be a standard French description for a French qualification, but is it the same word used in German, Italian, etc, and does it have the same meaning, or even, dare I say it, "outside Europe"?
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davidof, it may be a standard French description for a French qualification, but is it the same word used in German, Italian, etc, and does it have the same meaning, or even, dare I say it, "outside Europe"?


That was the OP's point and I agree but he suggested two alternatives that are not in common usage one including the stem of the French word he objected to. I assumed he was having a joke but maybe not? Piste isn't that well understood in the US I find - ski run or slope seems more usual.

Here are some suggestions for other languages:
pattugliatore (it)
patrouilleur (swiss france, germanic countries)

anyone like to confirm?
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Frosty the Snowman, yes, the chief pisteur in La Rosiere is very much our friend, he's also the local plumber.
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What's a piste-basher driver called?
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xyzpaul wrote:
What's a piste-basher driver called?


"Sir" if he's heading toward you, "Jesus!" when he's almost on you and "Oh ****" when it's too late?

...and "God" if the lifts have closed and he's taking hitch-hikers...
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