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New board for the ValaisGrom - all help welcome...

 Poster: A snowHead
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ValaisGrom2 is now nearly 14 - 44 kilos, 1.6m tall - carves on a board all over the hill, and graduated from a 125 Rome Minishred season 17-18 to a 139 Rome Mini Agent Rocker for season 18-19. His feet are growing at a silly rate, and will be around 41-42 (mondo 26-2Cool next season, so he will need a reasonably wide board. The Mini Agent is a symmetrical park board and he finds that it is a bit 'dive-ey' in powder - is nose digging in. I have searched quite a bit for choices, but grief its all very contradictory, and I can't get a fix on a board which will fit the bill. He will keep the Mini Agent for park and piste work, so I can get quite a specialist off-piste board, but note that this is for euro-off-piste use (rubbish powder, plenty of crusty grunge....).

What length?
What width?
Models?

All help really welcome....
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Rome Ravine 148. It's been highly recommended on the snowboarding forum though I've not ridden it myself. I did buy a Rome Blur new for this season and put in about 30 days on it, absolutely love it though I do wish the topsheet was more lift queue resistant.
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@BoardieK, woooooooooooah.......that looks good.....many thanks
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@BoardieK, I was looking at one of those for me, a bit bigger though........ Do you have a link to the forum?
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@rogg, there we go....

Absolute Snow

http://youtube.com/v/NVG0krlUVo4

and

WhiteLines

http://youtube.com/v/bAKzO7xdY20
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It keep getting good mentions on snowboardingforum.com especially by Nivek who is a well respected contributor and one half of the AngrySnowboarder team. His "professional" review is here http://www.angrysnowboarder.com/the-2019-rome-ravine-snowboard-review/ and you will note that its been his personal board of choice this season.
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Right...I sense a call to Absolute Snow coming on for the ValaisGrom’s birthday present...
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
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I would also consider a Hovercraft 148cm as its a proven tree design that is designed for control this will hold resale value although possibly more costly

The Rome looks like a pseudo powder board designed for jib kids attempting to transition to freeride reality so it may work to a degree .
The market throws these out for flatland jib/freestyle kids transitioning from pathetic (in powder) jib/park designs.....only they manage to sell them.... yet they are a half as ssed jib/powder board.
6mm of taper
15mm of setback
Tight sidecut
You can bet the flex torsionally is soft and also overall

If the Rome Ravine has a soft jib flex then it fits the above wannabe powder board design ...... that isnt really one at all and is just a american reviewed stepping stone .

The Jones works no question with "double the above noted specs " , has a better straighter sidecut for stability at speed and carving and a .....very gradual nose rise .
The rome nose rise actually looks like it was bent in a vice but its hard to tell online although I have seen this carp on Capitas

Your son may well prefer a soft low speed flatland jib type flex pseudo powder board but in time riding powder in big or small europe resorts you need tools designed for the job.

It pays to know the differences in design that the market is throwing out at £300-450 a pop as the reviews want you to buy new annually .
A proven powder board design from 2007 will still work as will one from 2020 its just more sucker models exist today as its very fashionable.


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@Tirol 164, Yikes....radical disagreement - this is a helpful interjection, since I have been veering backwards and forwards hearing very different arguments. Hmmmm time to dig some more.
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The flex pattern and board surface area in powder depths at your sons weight is important as it is with anyone ...many will size powder boards completely wrong even so called experienced riders.

Another point is board stance width if he is 160cm in height .
The Ravine is said to have a narrow and wide range so it covers all bases yet the min stance width on a 148cm jones hoverC is 52cm with a ref stance at 54cm .

Too much info ...probably but then get in the snowanrock que for a new board annually not knowing one from the other as far as design for purpose.... thats the negative .

In practise you wanted a quiver powder board which by design is a freeride design not a pseudo soft low speed flatland jib/park board design with very very minor powder features .


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No radical disagreement. The dimensions of the 2 boards are within a few mm of each other and both have similar flex and camber profile though the Hovercraft is definitely the more serious powder board.

I was looking at where Grom is coming from and the Ravine looks like a good match. Depends how much emphasis you want to put on powder use.
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