 Poster: A snowHead
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Well, in the small fall we had in Alta last week (6"-10") I took out a pair of Volkl Karmas, 170cm.
In fairness they did make the snow easier - especially once it was well tracked - but they didn't really do a great deal for me. I think I wanted something a little longer.
I am still decidedly "iffy" about skis where there's a noticeable castor. That said, one friend hired Armadas with very nice graphics. I mean, that's important innit?
Comments? (on the Karmas, not my shallow views on colour...!)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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170cm Karmas are too short, unless you are too...
Which Armarda?
Lap my fat ski.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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parlor,
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170cm Karmas are too short, unless you are too...
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Just how short is....short? 
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parlor, I am small but, apparently, perfectly charming.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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David Murdoch,
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parlor, I am small but, apparently, perfectly charming.
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I can think of one tree in particular which would tend to disagree with the "charming" despite your best efforts
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I ski on Volkl 170 but I am only 5` 8" on a good day so I would think they are a bit short for you. But I really do like the Volkl.
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snowbunny, cheek!
Nick_C, I am only 5' 6" but a tad on the aggressive side...
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Oi, who you lookin' at? 
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I tried the next one up (176?) and thought it a little flexy in the cut up stuff. Bought the 8800's in the end, if you still ski in your GS skis then I think you'd like the Dynastars.
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marc gledhill, I thought you bought the 11000, not the 8800
David Murdoch, when I bought my Pistols, I considered the Karmas, but wanted a bit extra girth for the days when Alta gets more than the light dusting you experienced...
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David Murdoch, 170cm on a twin tip is v short, esp if you're used to GS skis - the twin tip will take about 5cm off the running length.
If you want to see what fat skis are about, I'd suggest getting your hands on something longer and no less than 95mm underfoot. You will notice a difference then, I am sure. Whether you like it or not is another thing, but at least you'll have tried 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Arno,
Agree with this, I tried Snakes in 180 and they skied well too short, it ruined the whole ski and day for me.
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Wear The Fox Hat, yep, the 11,000 - real phat muthas
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You know it makes sense.
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You beauty. My 177 Karmas have just arrived.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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kiwi1, are you getting to ski them soon, or will you just stroke them for a while?
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Poster: A snowHead
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kiwi1, Awsome ski. Top 5 all time best skis. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Arno, a good point. I still like the idea of the Stoeckli Asteroids
Annehillskiing, I suppose so...
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marc gledhill, Are you insane, why ski them when I can just stroke them for a while. After I'm done stroking, I'm heading out on the 25th for a week to make up for what has been a very snowless season.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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David Murdoch, the Asteroid lives on in the DP Pro, also available in 201cm and stiff as you like. There are quite a number of big skis which are built a bit like GS skis, actually. The old Volkl Explosiv and Dynastar Legend Pro are examples but not available in quite such an old school length as the Stocklis. The LP comes in a 194 tho
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Gotama in 197 next year. Might make it skiable. Very happy that people are starting to realise that fat skis can be made long.
Long is good. Short is bad.
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parlor, back yo the days of 210cm but three times as wide?
I am going to invest with companys that make ski bags 
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parlor, interesting. Tried out some 190 Gots at the weekend. Very enjoyable and certainly didn't feel like a particularly long ski. Anything shorter would have felt like a bit of a toy IMO
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Arno, is it indeed? Hmmm, I must see if I can try a pair (next season)...
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parlor, can't help but feel that much sidecut is a bit pointless on skis that big. I mean, it doesn't do you any good in soft snow, and I accept that carving a ski that big isn't impossible, but it's not exactly the reason for buying them
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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parlor, I'm sure the Ross DH boards that I#ve borrowed a few times are about 80cm underfoot and 210cm. At least the length would be there for you. Haven't tried them in powder though...
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