I have bought a pair of Salomon X max 100 boots and had them heat moulded and a custom foot bed put in. The boots feel good size wise (snug but not overly tigh) but after wearing them around the house for a while I start to have some issues. After around 30 minutes in the boots my feet, mainly the bottom towards the front of the foot start to tingle and feel quite hot. After a while they start to feel a bit numb so it is not overly comfortable. It is not unbearable but obviously not what I exclected after paying the premium to have them properly fitted. I haven’t done the boots up tight and I’m using a pair of thin race socks so no issues there. So to anyone who can provide some advice I have a couple of questions:
Will this ease up after skiing in them and packing out the liners? Has anyone experienced this with new boots before and then found the boots to be okay after a couple of days skiing?
Should I go back to the fitter and ask for some adjustments? The only issue with this is as I have left if fairly last minute I will not have chance to try them on a slope or get much wear around my house before I go. And the isssue doesn’t start straight away it may be hard to tell in the shop as they felt great when I tried on in the shop before.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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Have you skied in them?
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As Endoman says, try and ski in them.
Ski boots aren’t designed to be worn around the house. When skiing your stance and weight distribution will be completely different and that’s the only real test for how good a fit they are.
No not ski’d in them yet, Going to St anton on Sunday for a week. Only issue is if they don’t feel great I will be stuck with some uncomfortable boots for the week.
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Mine were initially uncomfy to walk in around the house, but skied beautifully, totally different movements.
1. As said, (hopefully) you are in a very different stance when skiing than walking. The in-the-house experience really does not give you any impression of how they'll be on the slopes.
2. There's likely to be a swift and immediate but very minor bedding in. The first 30 minutes in my most recent liners (race foamed into plug race boots) and I could barely walk never mind ski. Absolutely fine thereafter.
So I'd stop worrying and worst case, you'll be able to find help in Austria. But boot fitting is as much art as science, I have to ask, who did the fitting? Not suggesting for an instant that anyone did anything wrong..
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Hopefully they will feel okay once I get on skis after bedding in. They were fitted at my local fitter who is reccomended on here. My main concern was whether the numbness/cramp feeling was normal with a new pair of boots or whether I might need some more room potentially at the front of the boot.
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- buckle up in the correct order and not too tight: http://youtube.com/v/5Hw_uYtjreU
- calf/ankle flexing exercises
- put ski on floor in front of telly and click in to the binding and do some some ankle flexing whilst watching Coro. Start with 5 mins and increase by a few mins every night.
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If you lean into the tongue to start off does the pain come, or come as quickly?
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Thomasski wrote:
If you lean into the tongue to start off does the pain come, or come as quickly?
Yes I am leaning in to the front when wearing them. The feeling still comes after around 30 mins. Strangely the boots feel fine everywhere, no pressure points etc so can’t work out what could be causing it.
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@MAP747, probably a nerve compression over the top of the foot, close the upper buckles first and firmly, flex the boot a few time sot get into the back of the liner then close (finger tight) the lower buckles
standing/ sitting around the house is probably the worst thing you can do in a ski boot especially when new, it takes the motions of skiing and a couple of days to compress the liner padding a bit and bed the boot in
alternatively you could have tight calves and until you resolve issues all ski boots will do this to some extent
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I had similar issues and my boot fitter said I should always undo the “foot” buckles when not skiing. Only do them up when you are about to ski, then do them straight away at the bottom.
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Get decent ski socks; I was disappointed with the fit of my (top notch UK fitted) boots, bought new ski socks (Falke 2) and it has transformed the boots to a perfect and comfortable fit (which are incidentally 1.5 sizes smaller than my previous S&R fitted boots).
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When you get the numbness, put your skis on the carpet and click your boots in and flex forward. If the pain/numbness goes away then you will be Okey. If not simply go back to the shop and get a thinner footbed. I had this with my current boots in one foot and had a 1mm thinner one on one side and it worked a treat.
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Get decent ski socks; I was disappointed with the fit of my (top notch UK fitted) boots, bought new ski socks (Falke 2) and it has transformed the boots to a perfect and comfortable fit (which are incidentally 1.5 sizes smaller than my previous S&R fitted boots).
I wondered about this and was thinking about getting thinner ones as my current ones are quite thick. Do they still keep your feet as warm though? It will say it on the blurb but do they actually?
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@bambionskiis, merino is warm. Furthermore, thinner socks mean less pressure on the blood vessels, better circulation so warmer feet
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Was using Falke SK2 in Meribel three weeks ago in -15 and no cold toe issues, though I suspect different people have different circulation issues.
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I had mine custom fitted at Pro Feet. The guy said it would take them a week of skiing to bed in, and then they would be absolutely fine. He was right. Give them time and they'll be great I'm sure - but as said, you need to ski in them.
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MAP747 I have the same boots. Took a few days skiing to break them in. Around the house they are warm so will flex more than on the slope in the cold and you need the heat and movement generated by skiing to make the liners bed in.
If they are close fitted pay attention to the socks you're wearing because I tried a different brand (both lightweight) and it was hellish after 30 minutes with the alternate pair. Went back to the socks I had fitted with the boots and all fine again. Must have been the location of the padding on the socks or a slightly different density. The difference was stark, which I didnt expect.
Unclip after each run for sure. I havent used the toe buckles at all, but I do ski steady. I noted that many instructors do the same, so I guess there must be something in it as they wear them many hours a day.
Lastly, on this particular boot, I've found that the buckles can easily end up on a different notch to where I left them when I unclipped. That, plus the tongue likes to pull itself down a bit. It's worth resetting after each run and letting the rest on the chair lift do its job for you.
As a sidenote over the last few weeks I've worn the boots in temps ranging from 0 to -21c and the only time I had cold toes was if I stopped skiing for more than a couple of minutes and didnt unbuckle. The socks are just Teko lightweight merino's.
Unclip after each run for sure. I havent used the toe buckles at all, but I do ski steady. I noted that many instructors do the same, so I guess there must be something in it as they wear them many hours a day.
Lastly, on this particular boot, I've found that the buckles can easily end up on a different notch to where I left them when I unclipped. That, plus the tongue likes to pull itself down a bit. It's worth resetting after each run and letting the rest on the chair lift do its job for you.
That sounds like a whole lot of messing about, I'd be fixing the underlying issue rather than unclipping my boots after each run. I'm sure others may chip in with their view but my boots get clipped up when they are put on in the morning, tightened after the first couple of runs and then not touched for the rest of the day. They are a rather snug Atomic Tracker 130 fitted by our eminent boot fitting specialist @CEM at Solutions4feet. Looking forward to getting back in them next week having had a balance adjustment by Andy the Mechanic recently.
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I usually tighten mine at various points across the day if I feel my shin moving.
Wearing them round the house is a waste of time, get to your local dryslope or indoor to give them a spell. Through the first half of my first week in my new boots I had a few times where I’d unclip at the bottom of a run to relieve the strain. But after 3 or 4 days it was fine.
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I was told that the front two clips are only there to keep the snow out...
Should be able to close them with light pressure from your little finger...
Mine often pop open during the day as the boots get warm , I have to make minor adjustments on the clip but they are never tight.
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Bought some new boots from CEM for this season. Didn't wear them around the house, just went straight on a ski trip. Thinish socks (from Aldi) and followed the recommended procedure to put them on (as others have said bottom two buckles just needing a nudge with the finger to close). Perfect comfort all day, every day, from day 1. Never had to undo any buckles.
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