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Socks over or under base layers?

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Random question/poll for a bit of fun.

So which is it? Over or under??
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Neither.

3/4 length base layers snowHead
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Over the top of the sock but above the boot
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Over
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Mosha Marc wrote:
Neither.

3/4 length base layers snowHead


Interesting.........never any "gap" issues?
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Gyro wrote:
Over

Gyro wrote:
Over

And out?
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Agree with @Mosha Marc.
And no "gap" issues coz sock meets 3/4 leggings and embrace snowHead
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If they are under you get a ridge in your boot. If your boots fit properly that will be uncomfortable. When my kids were younger "Daddy, my shin/calf (delete as appropriate) hurts" was always followed by "Did you tuck your thermals in?" which was 95% the problem.


Hence this
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Over the top of the sock but above the boot

WHich leads you to

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Neither.

3/4 length base layers

as the optimal solution.


As for this

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Interesting.........never any "gap" issues?

Tue 22 Jan, 19
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Yes sometimes - means the socks are a tad short. But TBH if you have gaiters built into your ski pants it shouldn't matter.
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I do it as per Jedster above...

3/4 length Helly Hansen Dry base with the last couple of inches on top of the socks - Dissent Nano tour which are very compressive (and proper ski sock length), so no worries about sagging sock tops (or more blood clots come to that....).
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socks pulled up smooth and tight so no ridges, thermals never ever inside boot, or sock for that matter, they can rest on top of sock if long enough - my aren't, the kids ones get /got neatly fold back on themselves to keep clear of the boot.
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socks pulled up smooth and tight so no ridges, thermals never ever inside boot, or sock for that matter, they can rest on top of sock if long enough - my aren't, the kids ones get /got neatly fold back on themselves to keep clear of the boot.
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Neither, 3/4 length base layers, anything else may lead to discomfort
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Base layers are for Southerners
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This is as bad as non matching ski poles . . .3/4's all the way with a discreet fold over the sock above the bootline for all day comfort (sounds like a panty liner ad)
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Under, but then base layer leggings pulled up to whatever height needed to clear the cuff of the boot and then snug themselves into its top - so with the 3/4 answer, really.
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I'm going to go completely against the grain here, and confirm that I wear full-length thermals under my socks. I know, the horror! Laughing

Three reasons for this:
1. I tried some 3/4 thermals and found that they rode up my legs and caught around my knees in a quite uncomfortable way. I have quite large calves, so that may have something to do with it.
2. Any gap between trousers and socks is completely unacceptable.
3. Socks are usually applied quite late on in the dressing process, normally after I've been wandering around barefoot for at least an hour. Getting socks underneath at this point would be more problematic than just making sure everything is smooth with no folds or lumps.
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
Base layers are for Southerners


Oi, this southerner doesn't wear a lower baselayer!
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Another vote for 3/4 length thermals pulled on after socks with around a 1 inch overlap above boots.
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Over socks, but outside boots.
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I'll have to admit that I prefer socks under base layers! In my experience, pulling a sock over a full length base layer cause's creasing/uneven contact with the skin, and therefore becoming uncomfortable, hence going under.
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Mjit wrote:
Over socks, but outside boots.


Eh? How is that possible? Assume you use the snow gait to go outside the boot?
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base layers under socks is exactly where lumps and bumps will occur, inside boots, which is where you don't want the lumps and bumps to occur

either 3/4 or 1/2 length or normal sized underwear (usually 3/4 for me, which just fit over the top of the socks, which are well above the boot cuff - Falke for me, which nearly come up to the knee)

gaps are no issue, cos they'll be covered by padded ski pants
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Over, but I'm very careful to eliminate wrinkles and bumps, particularly at the front of the shin.
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I have never felt the need for leg base layers, either I am weird or you are skiing in some very cold places
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Jonny996 wrote:
I have never felt the need for leg base layers, either I am weird or you are skiing in some very cold places

It isn't just warmth , its also comfort for me the inside of my salopettes can get a bit sweaty and uncomfortable if its warm without a base layer
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It's all about the 3/4 merino, with the socks always under. Socks have a nice snug fit, with something else under them it becomes too snug.
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Never use a leg base layer - mainly because I wear knee supports on both legs, leaving very little leg/thigh uncovered!
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@Jonny996, @martinm, @Frosty the Snowman, where there’s no sense, there’s no feeling! Laughing
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Another vote for 3/4 length.
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I've had my merino base layers for a while, didn't even know 3/4 lengths were a thing until a year or so ago...but I've never had a problem with pulling on socks nice n' tight and high, then the long johns over top. I do make sure there aren't any bulges/creases etc. I may switch to 3/4 length next time, but then again i like to be able to wear them for activities other than skiing so full length is more versatile for me.
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martinm wrote:
Frosty the Snowman wrote:
Base layers are for Southerners


Oi, this southerner doesn't wear a lower baselayer!


Clevedon is definitely the north. This (proper) southerner don't wear a base layer on legs either.
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@Jonny996, @martinm, @Frosty the Snowman, where there’s no sense, there’s no feeling! Laughing


But there is a decent pair of salopettes Cool
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SnoodlesMcFlude wrote:

Clevedon is definitely the north. This (proper) southerner don't wear a base layer on legs either.


Clevedon is south of the M4, that makes it Sarf.
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@Jonny996,
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I have never felt the need for leg base layers, either I am weird or you are skiing in some very cold places


depends whether you wear shell pants or insulated pants
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For me it’s always full length base layer but then folded back up over my already laced in tiger balm knees to give them the extra warmth theydeserve and need.
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Mjit wrote:
Over socks, but outside boots.


Same
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jedster wrote:
@Jonny996,
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I have never felt the need for leg base layers, either I am weird or you are skiing in some very cold places


depends whether you wear shell pants or insulated pants

I'm with Jonny996. I don't usually wear base layer. And I normally wear shell pants only. Granted, my "shell" pants is wind proof and somehow being rather warm, even though there's no insulation. (I tried xc skiing in it one day, a rather chilly day, I was sweating buckets at my thighs. So it may just be me who sweat a lot)

But on really cold days (below 10F), I would add a thin base layer. Or, I switch to insulated pants, sans base layer.

Odd thing is, when I stop to pee, I noticed my thighs would be cold to the touch. But somehow that doesn't bother me. And if it's warm, I start sweating and it gets rather uncomfortable.
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kittya wrote:
Mjit wrote:
Over socks, but outside boots.


Same


You couldn't have them inside socks and over boots could you snowHead snowHead
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