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British skier dies after fall from chairlift in Meribel

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Report in French: https://www.randonnees-en-vanoise.com/le-mag/il-meurt-apres-une-chute-de-10-metres-du-telesiege-a-meribel?fbclid=IwAR0gOzvppFidvEGBXtknQbjlYEaEQ2pplHPxZ4LwXx8f36c_TzNRfDjZXQo
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Heart attack and fell off the chair, sad but not a chairlift incident
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And there are worse ways to go - though grim for the amie
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I hope that he had a good last run.
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Umm, poor chap, but they are not sure if the fall was related to any cardiac problems...
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Shocked fooook, he wuz my age Shocked . . . Though 10 points fer style Twisted Evil
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Thats the reason why they do not have hand rails on chairs in the US.
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@stanton, Puzzled Why?
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In the US ..Ski lifts mainly ascend over trails
. Ski Patrol can get to body dropped on piste below than waiting for chair to get to top....

There was a major lawsuit in 80's because of this ..
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Am I being thick here?
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@Frosty the Snowman, yes..
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@stanton, I’d have thought the chance of falling off a chairlift with no safety rail was a lot higher than suffering a fatal heart attack (or other life threatening health problem) whilst sitting on a chair lift.

Still don’t understand why some chairlifts in USA have no safety rail. So that makes me stupid too.

RIP.
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@stanton, so in the US do you get killed by the fall or the heart attack?
Are the medics always at the top of the trails.
I am getting thicker as I get older. Please help.
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@stanton, ummm, no, not at all, incorrect.
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Jeff Martin was a giver and someone who has touched onto at least 220,000 lives in a positive way, he deserves a little more respect than some of the posts on this thread.
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I don't think anyone has shown a lack of respect, @DavidYacht.
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@Frosty the Snowman, some stats for you to peruse...

https://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/CO+TRAMWAY+SAFETY+BOARD+CHAIRLIFT+STATISTICS.pdf

I like “they think he fell asleep” and “boys rough housing on lift”.
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Though I haven't read Stanton's comments as I have him on "ignore".
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@DavidYacht, disrespect???

@nozawaonsen, it would seem that medical condition falls from chairs are neglible
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@DavidYacht, obviously a complete tragedy. Thoughts with his friends and family.
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Umm, poor chap, but they are not sure if the fall was related to any cardiac problems...


Yes, I think people are reading too much into the story. He was found in a state of cardio-vascular arrest, well that is normal if you are dead. It is typical rescue worker speak for saying the person was dead when they got to the scene. He was probably killed by the fall, but there is always a possibility that he died on the chair and fell.

When I ride with old people they always have chairlift anxiety and want to lift the barrier hundreds of meters out from the station even if it is a high speed chair where you can lift as you arrive. No wonder some of the old dears fall off now and again. I always keep my foot hard on the barrier so they can't lift it. They should take up cross country or snowshoeing if lifts get them that stressed. Still as the over 60s say "never be more than a blue run from a mountain toilet" so you can maybe understand why they are in a hurry to get going !
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He was local to me. Highly regarded in the sailing community.

Very sad.

http://www.laserinternational.org/blog/2019/01/11/eight-bells-jeff-martin/?fbclid=IwAR24PAq0Rhu9KuWh5AFSkP0WIlU1-VpkfNw1UU1DmqIMPHBqoEwFJvckm7c
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Now who's reading too much into the story, @davidof? That's pretty disrespectful. All round. Sad

He was 65. A year older than my husband was when he died - sudden cardiac death. I said at the time that for him it was a good way to go. Not so good for me but being "an old dear" I have friends who have died quite dreadful deaths, or have looked after people suffering greatly.

I am a sailor. The skipper of the boat I crew on regularly had a very good friend drop dead whilst sitting on the transom of his launch (they'd been picking up moorings - heavy work) and fall backwards into the sea. That was a good death too, as is son remarked at his funeral - but grim for David who had to get a rope on him and tow him back in to the jetty and contact his wife. I know that David - now 85 - would love to go "out like a light" on his boat - though it would pose a challenge for his two regular crew. We'd cope, though.

There is nothing respectful about a show of faux-sentiment over somebody we don't know.
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Nothing respectful either about the adoption of the ghastly American "passing". The people who loved him will not be comforted by the avoidance of "death". Evil or Very Mad
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Loads of folks on here will know him, if not to call him a friend, just very well known. Great guy and well respected for his efforts -- look up the London Olympics if what you just a small look into what he achieved. Most folks under the age of 60 will have started sailing in a laser.

Some stuff here just plain rude.
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@Agenterre, I don't think it matters what anyone did in their life or how a well known figure they were. Every death on the mountain {this is a snow sports forum) is the loss of someone that meant a huge amount to someone.
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@Agenterre, I don't think it matters what anyone did in their life or how a well known figure they were. Every death on the mountain {this is a snow sports forum) is the loss of someone that meant a huge amount to someone.


Agreed
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Stanton's comments 're no bars on American chairlift is utter tosh

Over the last 15 years ( we ski most years in Utah) chairs have had drop bars added.
Basically yes the older chairs didn't have bars but ALL new chairs do
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... There is nothing respectful about a show of faux-sentiment over somebody we don't know.

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...Nothing respectful either about the adoption of the ghastly American "passing". ...


Yes to both of those, there are about 9 billion people in the world and they'll all die. If you're going to be sad about every death, that's going to be a huge downer and I doubt euphemisms will help much.

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Some stuff here just plain rude.

Nonsense.
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harvsurrey wrote:
Over the last 15 years ( we ski most years in Utah) chairs have had drop bars added.
Basically yes the older chairs didn't have bars....


There are many older chairs in US ski areas still without safety bars.

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.... but ALL new chairs do


That may well be true, however many American skiers choose not to use them where fitted. Puzzled
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Alastair Pink wrote:
harvsurrey wrote:
Over the last 15 years ( we ski most years in Utah) chairs have had drop bars added.
Basically yes the older chairs didn't have bars....


There are many older chairs in US ski areas still without safety bars.

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.... but ALL new chairs do


That may well be true, however many American skiers choose not to use them where fitted. Puzzled


Yes there are still lots of older chairs without bars but it goes against Stantons claims. However certainly across the 9 resorts I have experience of 75% now have bars where none did 15 years ago.

I generally don't bother dropping the bar unless there is a child on the lift or someone requests it.
It also means I don't being taller get my head smacked by the idiot who pulls the bar down as HE sits (in europe) which happens alot and is very very annoying
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Now who's reading too much into the story, @davidof? That's pretty disrespectful. All round. Sad



We have this wonderful writing device called paragraphs, you'll notice I used two. I'll explain how they work. They let you group a number of phrases or sentences around a subject. So in the first paragraph I discuss the speculation on cause of death, in the second, old folks who want to open safety bars up early (in my extensive career of riding lifts). The link being ski lifts and safety bars; hence the liberty of a single post.
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In places like Alta and Snowbird in Utah Vail and Aspen in Colorado which do have bars on most lifts the locals mostly don't use them.

Which has always seemed strange to me.

I have to say " Do you mind if I put the bar down?"

Even some mums with kids travel up with the bar up.
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Because they are so used to it, I learnt to ski in Utah back in 03 .... first lift with a drop bar I ever rode was 2011 in Europe and to start with having the bar down freaked me out.

About the only lift it would bother me not having a bar is the up and over in Val
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Because they are so used to it, I learnt to ski in Utah back in 03 .... first lift with a drop bar I ever rode was 2011 in Europe and to start with having the bar down freaked me out.

About the only lift it would bother me not having a bar is the up and over in Val
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He was staying at a chalet run by a friend of mine. Pretty grim day for her organising the return of the body, packing his room etc....
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Pretty grim day for her organising the return of the body, packing his room etc....

Grim for all concerned - but seems hard on her having to organise return of the body. Insurance should see to that? And he wasn't staying alone?
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@pam w, I don't have all the details but they tried to help as much as possible (interpreting, calls etc), not sure who was responsible for what. I was in another one of her chalets at the time..
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