 Poster: A snowHead
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I have one of those ski tubes with wheels. Like it a lot as it makes it much easier to lug heavy skis around the large airport expanses. However, on my last trip as I was at Zurich airport going up an escalator heading for the train having just landed some people starting shouting at me and pointing at the tube I was dragging. Turning round I saw that the two halves of the tube were slowly coming apart, only held together by the friction of the outer on the inner. A moment later and they would have been completely separated and my skis would have been descending the escalator at speed, with me left holding the empty end. It seems that the tube must have been opened for security checks in transit and whoever did it failed to properly locate the safety clip back in place (i.e. connecting the outer and inner halves together) - it was there but only attached to one of the tubes. Moral of the story: inspect carefully when collecting the tube off the baggage carousel.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| DCG wrote: |
| I have one of those ski tubes with wheels. Like it a lot as it makes it much easier to lug heavy skis around the large airport expanses. However, on my last trip as I was at Zurich airport going up an escalator heading for the train having just landed some people starting shouting at me and pointing at the tube I was dragging. Turning round I saw that the two halves of the tube were slowly coming apart, only held together by the friction of the outer on the inner. A moment later and they would have been completely separated and my skis would have been descending the escalator at speed, with me left holding the empty end. It seems that the tube must have been opened for security checks in transit and whoever did it failed to properly locate the safety clip back in place (i.e. connecting the outer and inner halves together) - it was there but only attached to one of the tubes. Moral of the story: inspect carefully when collecting the tube off the baggage carousel. |
I went to pick up the double sporttube from a baggage carousel and security had obviously opened the tube but was unable to put it back together properly. I ended up selling it as although I do think they protect skis well it seems some people can't seem to figure out how to put them back together.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@o11y, My problem was that it was not initially obvious that the tube had been opened. I will look more closely in future.
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@DCG, Some years back when I was returning from the US I found that my ski tube at the baggage reclaim back in the UK was starting to separate into the two halves. It turned out that US security had snipped the original (US made) ski tube padlock to inspect the contents (fair enough I suppose although surprised that as it was a US made padlock they didn't have master keys) but what irked me was that when they put the two halves together again they hadn't secured them with a nylon tie strap through the holes, which would have been easy to do. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Alastair Pink, I don't use a padlock, just the clip that is supplied with the tube. It is now possible, though, to get TSA compliant padlocks which they can open with a master key.
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@DCG, Yes, I've now got some TSA compliant padlocks. 
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I can’t think of much that would be more lethal than half a hard plastic ski tube flying down an escalator, with skis and poles poking out!
They are quite tricky sometimes to get the holes in the runner for the inside and outside parts lined up and get a padlock or whatever through.
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| Themasterpiece wrote: |
I can’t think of much that would be more lethal than half a hard plastic ski tube flying down an escalator, with skis and poles poking out!
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The only saving grace was that the skis and poles were on the up side so it would be just the weight of them and the hard plastic that would have hit someone. That would still have done some damage!
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I work in airports and have seen too many people have accidents trying to take luggage on escalators. The signs that say please use the lifts if you have luggage are there for a reason.
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@pandora, good point, well made.
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| pandora wrote: |
| I work in airports and have seen too many people have accidents trying to take luggage on escalators. The signs that say please use the lifts if you have luggage are there for a reason. |
Whereabouts in Zurich airport are those signs? Haven't seen them.
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| pandora wrote: |
| I work in airports and have seen too many people have accidents trying to take luggage on escalators. The signs that say please use the lifts if you have luggage are there for a reason. |
No signs in Geneva Airport, where the baggage trolleys are designed to be taken on the escalators. You don't even have to hold them on the ride - though it feels like a leap of faith to let go of the brake the first time you try it! 
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Bergmeister, I think you are thinking of a different kind of escalator to the one i’m thinking of. I’ve got a picture of a moving staircase in mind. You definitely shouldn’t have a trolley on one of those.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| pandora wrote: |
| Bergmeister, I think you are thinking of a different kind of escalator to the one i’m thinking of. I’ve got a picture of a moving staircase in mind. You definitely shouldn’t have a trolley on one of those. |
There are escalators that have special trolleys to go on them...I hate them
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Ta for the video Alastair - looks exactly like the 'moving staircase' that pandora was fearing.....and that Bergmeister and I love 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@pandora, I think the trolleys are designed specifically to go on them. A bit un-nerving first time you use them, but they have special locking mechanisms to keep them safe. I'm surprised that you were not aware of them , given that you work in airports.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Well, whaddya know? I’ve never seen those, in spite of having worked in over 100 airports over the last 20 years. If you google YouTube escalator bag accidents there are plenty on bags falling down escalators but they seem to cause such horrible accidents that I didn’t think it polite to post such clips here. Only last year I had to press the emergency stop button at Gatwick when an elderly passenger let go of her wheelie bag and then somehow managed to get herself (in a sari) stuck underneath it.
As crew we generally tend to make a beeline for lifts because they aren’t the obvious route and we know where they are and how to get to them quickly, fewer passengers opt for them. Perhaps that’s why I have been deprived of the knowledge of trolleys that are supposed to go on escalators. I still think they are a bad idea.
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@pandora, In the last year I have pressed the emergency stop twice...no luggage but people either arsing about or drunk and falling down. Perfectly happy taking a bag on an escalator but not one of those trolleys
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Why bother with a padlock ? I use a pull tie - it's secure, and you know immediately if there has been interference. A couple of spares in the pocket deal with any issues.
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Have used a ski tube for maybe 30 plus trips - it has never (as far as I am aware) been opened. Good luck to them if they do try to open it - my skis are a jam fit and I usually have to get someone to help pull the halves apart 
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| Caspar wrote: |
| Have used a ski tube for maybe 30 plus trips - it has never (as far as I am aware) been opened. Good luck to them if they do try to open it - my skis are a jam fit and I usually have to get someone to help pull the halves apart |
I guess if they need to open it then, your bag won’t make the flight...
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Anyone know where you can buy a sportube padlock for less than £21 Amazon want. My double tube arrived to LHR minus the padlock!
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Anyone know where you can buy a sportube padlock for less than £21 Amazon want. My double tube arrived to LHR minus the padlock!
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A bag of cable ties and nail clippers would be a lot cheaper!
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@Alastair Pink, the attraction was the fact that the North American’s are able to open it without cutting through the cable. I am off to Canada in ten days and did not want any hassles. If that has not been your experience then I shall gladly purchase a cheaper lock!
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| Snowsartre wrote: |
| @Alastair Pink, the attraction was the fact that the North American’s are able to open it without cutting through the cable. I am off to Canada in ten days and did not want any hassles. If that has not been your experience then I shall gladly purchase a cheaper lock! |
Well it happened about 3 years back flying back from Denver. The Sportube (which is the name of the ski tube I have) is actually manufactured in Colorado and had the original silver padlock supplied with it, but for whatever reason the Denver security people had removed it (maybe as it was quite a few years old it was pre TSA specification).
I'm not sure if Canada adopt the same approach or use US TSA specification master keys anyway.
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