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I've taken a load of lessons and was comfortable going down the main slope in the UK indoor ski centers.
However sometimes when I go, when turning on to my toe edge, my back leg doesn't seem to bend at the knee naturally and just feels all wrong and I have to force myself to bend it.
However other times when I go on the indoor slopes it all goes well and smoothly, so I'm really confused as to what the problem is.
Any advice??
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Without seeing you ride, not easy to say. Are you twisting your upper body, that sometimes blocks the legs from bending?
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@Charlie256, what kind of stance angles are you using?
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@Richard_Sideways Regarding stance angles, in these indoor slopes they're all set the same the left and right.
I did actually think this could have something to do with it, my back leg just feels in the wrong position.
@Sitter It could be I am twisting my upper body....
One thing I forgot to mention is that on the less steep part of the slope it does come easier and more natural.
Maybe on the steeper part I'm trying to force it more by twisting my upper body?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It could be you naturally prefer a different stance to what’s set up on those boards.
After I learned I preferred duck stance for some reason so I set my board up like that
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It could be you naturally prefer a different stance to what’s set up on those boards.
After I learned I preferred duck stance for some reason so I set my board up like that
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Probably easiest to take a lesson. Indoor slopes are great if you use them correctly, but they're so easy that you can get away with lots of bad habits, and almost all of the people you will see riding there will share those habits.
Regarding the stance.. if you don't know how to set it, probably easiest to take a lesson on that too. Seriously, unless you're telling the rental place how to set the board up then it's almost always not going to be correct for you.
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I’m fancying a snowboard lesson after reading this thread. Hmmm but do I dare get back on one after all this time!
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Charlie256 wrote: |
One thing I forgot to mention is that on the less steep part of the slope it does come easier and more natural. |
The above quote reminds me of my own issues and what I think is a common learners' and intermediates' issue: fear makes you use and pressure the back leg more as it's fundamentally your braking and emergency steering mechanism. I get it more on heel edge turns, but on both I know I am prone to stiffening and tightening up through lack of confidence to let the turn flow - but only when our of my steepness comfort zone.
Also, knees are connected to hips, which also need relaxing to allow an easy overall leg bend. And feet in the wrong position (i.e. stance and angle issues) can make it difficult to bend knees easily, particularly without letting the fall inwards (depending on if you favour doing that or not).
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Yep, what @Grizzler said. Leaning backwards (onto back foot) was my first thought too.
As you get better at snowboarding you will be moving your weight actively around the board as you turn, but at first it's helpful to concentrate on having your weight more over the front foot to counteract ones natural tendency to lean back as the board picks up speed.
When you initiate your toe side turn, try looking for a feeling of the weight of your body being focussed through your leading hip and driving your bent knee to put pressure on your toes. That feeling will tell you your weight is where it needs to be.
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Thanks guys, I hope some of these things help!
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You need too increase practise/training time like everyone else .
Without "Snowboard specific flexibility" your going to have to gain it snowboarding .
So if your only doing a week or two a season ....you need a sport specific physical reality check .
My thoughts are your locking the knee heelside before the transition starts to toeside.... and so possibly are still locked through the transition into the toeside turn.... but this is a guess .
Personal physical Flexibility and strenght through range of motion is worth more than any new equipment it must be specific to snowboarding .
The feet, ankles, lower leg chain, knees,upper legs and up through the core are a real good start where you will get out exactly what you put in .
Study flexibility/strenght to snowboard and/or ski and your going to do yourself a favour .
After all have you ever heard of a sport that requires no specific training ?
Lessons are passed off as all one needs... it even become a idiotic mantra yet lessons are really only part of the bigger picture and wont succeed without increased training time physically and on the board .
Last edited by And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. on Fri 18-01-19 7:44; edited 1 time in total
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Hi Charlie
Sounds a little like an issue my wife had turning. She feels like her stance is natural, but when trying to turn she didn't have the freedom of movement she needed. The main issue she had was that her hips were facing a little forward, rather than in line with the board. This meant that when she tried to turn her hips effectively blocked her back leg from bending. We did some exercises to relax the body and crouch a little lower - just enough to return the hips in line with the board. As Grizzler says - fear, even unconscious has an effect. You might unwittingly be turning your body to face down the hill slightly.
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