Poster: A snowHead
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I quite like the idea of zipfit liners. My current liners are starting to feel too, "bedded in," and I have recently skiied with two people who really rate zipfits. However my feet are in Durham but my boots are in France. So I'm thinking of buying on the internet and putting them in myself when boot and foot are reunited.
Is this another one of my brilliant ideas?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Moriarty, There's no real fitting involved in Zip-Fit liners as long as you buy the right size and the right thickness one. I've got the "Gara" model which is about the thinnest because of the limited room in the shells. Fitting was only a case of heating them up so as to speed up the moulding process, still took about 4 days skiing to get them properly moulded. It'd just take a bit longer to mould if you didn't heat them first, end result would still be the same.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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DB, There's no flo material in the toe box area so toe caps not required.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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depends on how tight the shell is and how wide the Achilles is, toe caps sometimes help push the foot back into the moulding compound and get a better initial shape
not a requirement but it can help the fit for some people
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I used the method explained here to fit ZipFit Tour liners to my Black Diamond Factor boots.
http://www.zipfit.com/qanda.html
Seemed to work a treat, five weeks skiing now and no problems.
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I quite like the idea of zipfit liners. My current liners are starting to feel too, "bedded in," and I have recently skiied with two people who really rate zipfits. However my feet are in Durham but my boots are in France. So I'm thinking of buying on the internet and putting them in myself when boot and foot are reunited.
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CEM wrote: |
depends on how tight the shell is and how wide the Achilles is, toe caps sometimes help push the foot back into the moulding compound and get a better initial shape
not a requirement but it can help the fit for some people |
I always thought the cap was to give room for the toes to wiggle.
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it does, doesn't really stretch the front of the liner much as it is fully neoprene, but it pushes the foot further back and therefore gives more space...depend on how tight the shell is though
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Thanks all. So how do I decide which one to go for? Is it the old "How many fingers can you get in?" question? (without ref. to actresses and bishops for the older generation).
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Hi. I have a pair of Sidewinders I just have decided to get on fitting again. I gave them up last winter since the was no chance the pre filled amount of compound could give enough support around my reasonably big knuckles and skinny lower leg. After heating as suggested in a plug shell I was in so much pain that I could not even walk a few steps in the bootfitter shop. Seems like the knuckles were taking all the pressure from the shell.
Yesterday I had my latest and completely disastrous Strolz liner attempt. The BF did not listen to my advice based on previous failures due to blocked hoses. One outside pocket turned out less then half filled. Both inside pockets was created over filled lifting the Footbed up under the exit hose.
Now I have to tubes of extra cork compound. I doubt that will be enough as the Sidewinder have this panel covering the whole inside. So I would guess type of liner depends on type of footshape and how much the shell are pre-shaped or punched/heat moulded to avoid pressure points on knuckles.
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I have Zip liners which seem fine, a little tight for the first few days but not as much as I was lead to expect.
However, my inner ankle bones are quite prominent and both the old liner and the Zip liners took the skin off. After taking the boots into the shop where they were purchased them they expanded that area a bit.....but not nearly enough. So I got home and made a tool in the workshop that pushes where the bone was rubbing and heated with a hot air gun, problem solved. Since then I've done a further 2 weeks in them and they are fine now.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Love my Zipfits, which are now 300+ ski days old, and still going strong. They do not however obviate the need to adjust the shell to your feet, especially if they are a bit gnarly. A properly-sized shell, that has been stretched to relieve any pressure points, eg from prominent ankle bones, bunions, etc, is key.
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Good to hear. What worries me a bit now is how stiff the "Sidewinder" side-panel is. I have had my shells punched for both front foot width and the inside able ankle bones, and I fear the stiff sidepanel will keep causing pressure even after the compound have been filled up and displaced and shell are stretched.
@king key, did you do that ankle punsh with the liner in the shell? Punshing both shell and liner?
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You know it makes sense.
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Hi Gunnar, I took out the liner and expanded just the boot shell where my angle bone was too close.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Gunnar, with the sidewinder you need to heat that panel and mold it around the tibia, normally it involves a heat gun (carefully) gloves and an assistant to get the shaping good BEFORE we put it in the shell
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ok. Have you encountered any tibia-knuckles that have not been possible to fit in Sidewinder liners? I did not have any other option when ordering, and as a full-time pro Patroler, all day long comfort is most important for me.
After todays pain I'm convinced I need probably 1,5 to 2 tubes in each liner to make them work.
How many tubes of compound are prefilled?
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