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Paradiski vs Espace Killy,

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi Snowheads,

I am looking at booking either of these for March and wondering which is better for Intermediate Skiers, mainly reds with some blues.

We also like to be able to walk from the apartment to the LIFT rather than buses.

Don't really do much apres just ski all day and have a picnic lunch.

MAny Thanks Happy

PS not been to either


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@jason.peter1986, If you have never been to either then toss a coin. If you have been to one and not the other then goto the one you haven't been to. otherwise you have sufficient information to decide yourself. To me the bigger choices are: do you want Val d'Isere or Tignes or which of the Paradiski villages you want.
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Thanks John, appreciate there is sufficient info. But nice to hear opinions of those who have been.
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@jason.peter1986, EK every time, stay in Val if you want apres, stay in Tignes if you prefer to ski.
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Paradiski if you enjoy queueing. Recall being stuck waiting for a lift in La Plagne for half an hour at the beginning of March.

Tignes is a huge resort, but it's so well designed you're scarcely ever more than two lifts from home.
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James the Last wrote:
Paradiski if you enjoy queueing. Recall being stuck waiting for a lift in La Plagne for half an hour at the beginning of March.

Tignes is a huge resort, but it's so well designed you're scarcely ever more than two lifts from home.

Unless you're trying to get back to Le Lac from the Toviere side of even just from Val Claret, when it's a minimum of 3 lifts for many people.

Having skied both mega areas, I'd say that for intermediates (which I'm taking as people who ski reds and blues but avoid blacks), Les Arcs is by far the best linked.
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i"ve been to both and they are both brilliant, i would do one this year and the other next year, i would say la plagne has the easiest red runs, as val disere blues can turn in to hard reds in bad conditions, also in cloudy low visability days la plagne has tree skiing down to the lower villages, i much prefer to stay in la plagne rather than les arcs which to me has a souless appeal, but again it has good tree cover for rubbish days.valdisere has the best nightlife, tignes can get a bit crowded, i always stayed in catered chalets with various companies and have always had a great time. another advantage of the paradiski is it doesnt have that monstrosity la folie douce, which is my idea of hell.
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Like many here, I have been to both and enjoyed them. I agree with the guys above. You should definitely do both of them in your ski lifetime. Financially they are both close and quite expensive.
I reckon it's a question of:
personal taste (to me Tignes le Lac's high and rectangular buildings are annoying, compared to the fairytale ones of Les Arcs 1950, for example),
style of skiing (I love the long reds of Les Arcs that descend all the way from the bowl towards 1800 and towards Vallandry, can't wait to ski between the trees towards Plan Peisey. But in april those are the slushier and annoying bits),
timing (in early december or april I would go higher thus EK, expect more open km and less slush)
apres ski (I enjoy La Folie Douce down from Bellevarde, but I am sure people here can recommend smth similar in Paradiski),
food (could be my fault here, help me guys) - I enjoy skiing till 16 then looking for a place to eat on the mountain. Most places I've got to after 16 in Les Arcs had their kitchen closed already, meaning they were serving only cheese platters/cold cuts and a lovely tarte de myrtilles. While you can crash in the Taverne de Neiges in Val Claret after they close the lifts and still get a hot soup with croutons and bacon and then an amazing carbonara.
Now I am hungry Laughing
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Peek weeks will be busy in pinch points of La Plagne (Bellecote mainly), but it’s possible to avoid this and later March would be fine.

Personally I prefer La Plagne to Tignes, a bit more variety in terms of places to head when the weather is poor.
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Peek weeks will be busy

Yup you need to look out for them. wink

Actually I agree with the above not a lot of difference for red runs in good weather but if you happen to get a week with a lot of bad light there is a lot more tree level stuff in Paradiski.
Given good weather you'd almost certainly enjoy either if the purpose built nature of the resorts themselves doesn't bother you.
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@jason.peter1986, try to avoid the first full week of March 2019. French school holidays and still very busy.

I’d say for intermediate blue/red piste cruising, Paradiski is better overall. Personally I prefer to stay on the Les Arcs side of the area (including Plan Peisey). Easy enough to get over to La Plagne but I find in a typical week I’d ski 70% of time in Les Arcs.

Val D and Tignes is edgier and more challenging in my opinion. Significantly fewer kms of relatively easy piste than Paradiski. Still more than enough though. More exciting and a good lift system, which generally copes better at busy times.

All subjective opinions.
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I have been to both on many occasions. For what you are describing, blues and reds, I think I would avoid Val Disere only because the way home can be a bit exciting. So it’s either Tignes or Paradaski and on balance, it’s probably Paradski as all routes home are pretty gentle.
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Don't think there is much difference to choose between them. Both very big areas with plenty of skiing for all grades of skier. Espace Killy has more terrain at altitude, Paradiski has more runs through the trees. Both can be useful depending on the weather, but in a typical March week neither of these attributes should be a deal breaker.

I'd make your choice based on the accommodation you prefer best (price, quality, location, etc).
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Nickbrad wrote:
I think I would avoid Val Disere only because the way home can be a bit exciting

I beg to differ. You have amazing reds from Bellevarde, and one can always take the gondola down. Same with the next peak in Val d'Isere
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It really depends on what you want to ski, nice cruising blues/reds, then La Plagne, or more challenging pistes with the cruising areas then Tignes/Val D. Tignes is less expensive than Va D. Whatever areas you choose you should enjoy.
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Both resorts are roughly the same.

Overall, Espace Killy has slightly tougher slopes. But not by much.
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Paradiski for a gentler ski holiday, EK for an experience. If you choose EK stay in Val Claret on the Tignes side.
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