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Knee locking up when I turn

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Why does my knee lock up when I try to turn? It is only on 1 side
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Do you mean your leg locks in to a straight position so you don't flex your knee? Or do you mean that your knee joint stops working so you can neither bend or straighten that joint?
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Wouldn't it be better to see a specialist such as a doctor for this rather than post in a forum? May be a developing problem which might also affect your non skiing life later
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Or do you mean it's a psychological problem? In which case pages of advice, some of it facetious, in this Forum might give you a good laugh and be just what you need.....
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Schnorrr wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to see a specialist such as a doctor for this rather than post in a forum? May be a developing problem which might also affect your non skiing life later


I've just done what my GP does, looked on Google.

https://www.paincare.org/knee-locking/
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Loose flap of cartilidge or meniscus getting jammed in the joint it it is a physical lock.
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rob@rar wrote:
Do you mean your leg locks in to a straight position so you don't flex your knee? Or do you mean that your knee joint stops working so you can neither bend or straighten that joint?


No, I can flex my knee into a straight position easily, it happens when parallel turning with my weaker leg. My leg gets stuck pointing inwards so that 1 leg is pointing straight and the other is doing snow plow!


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NewSki wrote:
rob@rar wrote:
Do you mean your leg locks in to a straight position so you don't flex your knee? Or do you mean that your knee joint stops working so you can neither bend or straighten that joint?


No, I can flex my knee into a straight position easily, it happens when parallel turning with my weaker leg. My leg gets stuck pointing inwards
Difficult to visualise without seeing it. Do you have this issue doing other activities? Is it a physical thing which you should see a Doc or a physio for, or a technique thing?
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rob@rar wrote:
NewSki wrote:
rob@rar wrote:
Do you mean your leg locks in to a straight position so you don't flex your knee? Or do you mean that your knee joint stops working so you can neither bend or straighten that joint?


No, I can flex my knee into a straight position easily, it happens when parallel turning with my weaker leg. My leg gets stuck pointing inwards
Difficult to visualise without seeing it. Do you have this issue doing other activities? Is it a physical thing which you should see a Doc or a physio for, or a technique thing?


It only happens when skiing, my partner has the exact same issue with her weaker leg aswell..
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NewSki wrote:
It only happens when skiing, my partner has the exact same issue with her weaker leg aswell..
OK, obviously difficult to make any suggestions without seeing it (do you have any video?) so I think the best that can be offered is "stop doing it". Many people have a strong side and a weak side, which might be caused by physical or psychological reasons, or just an acquired movement pattern. I don't think there is any shortcut to addressing the weak side, so you need to focus on doing the right thing with both your left and right turns, and be determined to make the right movements on your weaker side.
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@NewSki, Do you mean physically locks in 1 position (though presumably unlocks at the end of each turn, else you ain't going to go vary far down the slope!) or do you mean that it falls inwards or otherwise rotates oddly with respect to your leg or foot, perhaps then hitting a temporary 'end point' stop? You refer to a weaker side...?
Could, if the latter, be an issue of how your legs are designed, ankle flex, hip rotation ability, many other general physiological imbalances and non-knee issues.
Do you wear custom orthotic footbeds?
See a physio and get things assessed and get recommendations for further treatment, exercises etc.

Alternative thought (and I am not an instructor or very advanced skier): are you flat footing your turns and trying to tip the skis round with your leg/knee rather than rolling the boot onto its side? It might just be a technical issue which needs instructor input.
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My leg gets stuck pointing inwards so that 1 leg is pointing straight and the other is doing snow plow!

sounds like classic A-frame
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Unless this is a genuine defective knee issue, then I think I know what you mean... it sounds very like a phenomenon I termed ‘lazy left leg’, as when I got tired my left leg seemed to prefer pointing right and didn’t much care for turning left, which meant I was tripping myself up.

It transpires that this was just a symptom of a combination of issues (and not just being tired!!) so I won’t go into details here but my suggestion is that you need someone to watch you ski and identity the actual cause/s - lessons/coaching should fix it (or identify biomechanical issues you might need further help with).
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pam w wrote:
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My leg gets stuck pointing inwards so that 1 leg is pointing straight and the other is doing snow plow!

sounds like classic A-frame


Yes, exactly! This was also a(nother) symptom, but the causes can be complex - physiology, stance, boot - hence there is no substitute for eyeballing and fixing each in turn.
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Could be the third issue here at 5 mins 30 sec, leading too much with the inside ski causing it to grip and start to turn, but the outside ski carries on and breaks away. Happens to me if I’m not consciously thinking about building up pressure on the outside ski.


http://youtube.com/v/KWqQ4pf2OII
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I agree with those who are looking at stance.

- First thing to check is alignment

- Once that is corrected/shown to be correct, then lessons to make sure that your initiation of the turn is accurate...and that both skis are doing the same thing, at the same time and by the same amount.
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Amunah wrote:
Unless this is a genuine defective knee issue, then I think I know what you mean... it sounds very like a phenomenon I termed ‘lazy left leg’, as when I got tired my left leg seemed to prefer pointing right and didn’t much care for turning left, which meant I was tripping myself up.

It transpires that this was just a symptom of a combination of issues (and not just being tired!!) so I won’t go into details here but my suggestion is that you need someone to watch you ski and identity the actual cause/s - lessons/coaching should fix it (or identify biomechanical issues you might need further help with).


Sounds very familiar snowHead I've spent years skiing badly & falling over because of this & honestly did not know what was going on, almost to the point of expectation that the falls are just inevitable & I'd always be rubbish. Constantly had the 'a frame' pointed out to be a problem with various attempts to instruct it out of me, leading to widening of stance and increasing difficulties.

Reckon I've got a handle on it now, had new boots fitted & had a whole new world of pain, went back whinging and was told a lot of interesting stuff about alignment and what direction my bones go in, recommended further instruction to be able to work with my physiology rather than against it. Had a 1-1 session (with Noel from indepth) bringing everything back to basics & progressing from there. Turned out to be a mixture of issues, physical - constantly trying to get my body to do stuff it's not capable of doing, specifically the left leg I cannot bend my knee straight, physically impossible. psychologically not trusting my left leg so not letting go meaning I couldn't balance. Extremely useful series of events, just wish I'd been able to do it sooner.

In summary, I agree with old fartbag Blush
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As a GP I'm happy to say that if you only get the problem when skiing it probably isn’t your knee, it's your skiing.

Years of training right there.
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