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@flangesax, Good luck Very Happy Welcome to the floppy side --- have fun Toofy Grin
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Telemarking always looks a bit tragic.

Like you bought a cheap pair of skis and the backend is about to snapoff.

It's why nobody has really bothered with it since World War 2 wink
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Is it just me or did 'Wolverine' sire a puppy? Shocked
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@limegreen1, great vid Very Happy
FWIW, I tele on Hammerheads, no intention to trade (up?) to NTN........
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Mind you, I learnt on leather boots/pin bindings/60mm x 200cm skis so anything else feels super solid Laughing
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@Whitegold, I don't believe you can actually ski or snowboard anyway.
Most of your posts seem to be generated by a quick copy and paste from askjeeves.
Go live under someone else's bridge!
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@limegreen1, great vid Very Happy
FWIW, I tele on Hammerheads, no intention to trade (up?) to NTN........


I havent tried anything but ntn so have no real basis for my assupmtion other than marketing talk vs cables .. however the people i have met who dont ski on ntn are usually interested in the concept but are more than happy with what they have and they were/are far far more competent than I ...
I think its the easier way to transition from or try out on, as its sold on being a stabler (?) way of doing it, and allows for alpine turns, which I know is frowned upon, but it makes the learning process, perhaps less painful, and possibly less alien, so "easier" ?
I will use cables, to see the difference. I think that they will help fine tune techniques ? maybe thats the way to go. I wont be using the wooden skis on my wall with the lauritz leather and spring bindings !
Do racers use the ntn system as a whole or is it a mix ? And yep, a lot of the "newschool" young telemarkers you see in the videos are on 75mm.
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I liked the unboxing of the Targas with the whole "essential bits". Do make sure you mark the skis left and right because no matter how obvious you think the duckbill looks it's a different matter when it's covered in snow and your hands are freezing because you've had to tske your gloves off to operate the stupid leash.
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Do racers use the ntn system as a whole or is it a mix


All NTN.

Cables less stable, more progressive, less active, way less edge control. You have to work harder to get on the back ski, and then stay in balance. Think of NTN as a "lack of" skill compensator. For the purest experience, three pins and leather is where it's at.

NTN for tele similar change to carving skis for alpine.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Thanks mate!... But I'm pretty sure that advice is irrelevant as there is absolutely no way I'll ever fall over anyhow!
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Episode 3... up and at 'em...


http://youtube.com/v/w_5dvThqiGc&t=1s
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@flangesax, hi

just watching your YouTube vlog.

Yep- all your reasons are my reasons- slow surfy turns especially off piste, bindings and kit that is cheap, cheerful, breaks and old skool. A challenge, mentally, physically, logistically, And fun.
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You know it makes sense.
If you are going to mount your own bindings then the main issue is getting the torque high enough and good glue. Especially if you are 'well built'. The thingies in your second video are climbing bars.
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@flangesax, I had a brief tele clinic in Dec 2014 on 75mm and cables.
Went home and bought Rottefella Freedom NTN and Scott Voodoo boots. Then skied a further 15 weeks only on tele gear. Went to the AWSA event Ex Telemark Titan 2016 and had to relearn everything - I had picked up rubbish from other telemarkers I met around the mountains and lots of bad habits. It was also quite difficult to self analyse from the Mike and Allen Telemark tips book when I didn't really know what I was trying to feel. Great instruction with Nicko Braxton.
Sold off alpine bindings last winter having used them for 2 days in 50 odd weeks.
So, along with ed123, highly recommend the ExTT in January. Just brilliant instruction and value and lots to chat about with novice to World Cup telemarkers.
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@ed123,
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Yep- all your reasons are my reasons- slow surfy turns especially off piste, bindings and kit that is cheap, cheerful, breaks and old skool. A challenge, mentally, physically, logistically, And fun.


... but NTN is more fun Toofy Grin Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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Thanks for all your input and advice chaps!
It seems that the sport is much more popular in North America than in Europe.
Here's my next vid.... be careful... you will never get these eight and a half minutes back!


http://youtube.com/v/urJ1uz2q14k&t=
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@flangesax, Tele was more or less re-invented in the US -- that's why there is more of a following there. Nice boots ! I had a booster strap on my T1s to stiffen them up a bit.
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Eight minutes of boot faff, what a joy. Toofy Grin wink
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@Hurtle, ah-hem!... I think you will notice very little faff!!... Plenty of waffle but pretty much faff free!
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@flangesax, lucky fit lad. Tightness is down to comfort, just like alpine. Minimal heel lift and watch out for rubbing. As long as your ankle pivot is congruent with the boot pivot you'll have no problems. You can get a 'pinch' over the top of the foot from the bellows and there are some diy uTube videos to fix this with a bit of warmth from a hair dryer and thick socks.

Yes, you will feel like you're wearing stilettos in these modern boots. I'm sure someone will come and explain why there's so much difference between plastic to leather.

Oh, BTW, if you're not doing any 'lunge' exercises . . . IT'S PAST TIME TO START!!! And when you do, vary and control the spread. SERIOUSLY, you need to be doing this now.
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@Hurtle, ah-hem!... I think you will notice very little faff!!... Plenty of waffle but pretty much faff free!
Admittedly it's an unusual kind of faff. For instance I've not witnessed even Scarpa, the Faffmeister, struggling to get his boots out of a cardboard box. But I'm not complaining, it's highly entertaining, for some weird reason. wink
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@Hurtle, dear old @Scarpa is a legendary faffer. It's how he became such a fast skier............members of his group just started to ditch him at the top of lifts etc because it was incessant Toofy Grin Toofy Grin, so he had to learn to catch up Laughing Laughing
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@Timberwolf, indeed. Even I can overtake him when he's having a faff and I'm a right slow coach. wink
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No... I'll defend him! It wasn't boot faff... he just couldn't find his car keys.
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Oh... EM...Geeee.....
Episode 5 is an absolute corker!


http://youtube.com/v/ACwsEPRob1Y
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Laughing Laughing Laughing
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
Any chance of rotating the camera 90 degrees?
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Great work. Love the the "no expense …. spent" theme.

Can't be long now until the maiden voyage (snow permitting).
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Now a need a pair of skis for these instead of a table top!!
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@flangesax, I epoxy in a length of the sticky bit, well a bit approx same diameter as hole. Then trim flush to ski surface when cured. This will maintain the strength and structural integrity of the ski better than filling with ptex. Telemark bindings will put a lot more force into the ski than an alpine binding and pull mounting screws out, as I have found out even when using the softest spring settings.
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