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What is the longest continuous vertical drop in Europe -.pisted?

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And what is the longest continuous piste too?
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Longest - cascades in Grand Massif ? 14km I think.
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Sarenne at Alpe D’Huez is 16km, with a drop of 1,470m.
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The drop from Aguille Rouge to Let Pré/Villaroger in Les Arcs area I thought was one of the greatest pisted vertical. Don't think it matches the others for distance though.

Claims For Serene? In Alps d Huez to be the longest distance seem to be prominent.
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Les 2 Alpes top of glacier to bottom can all be done in one run. 2000 m vertical has to be one of the biggest.
La serenne for longest piste.
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From the top of Cervinia at 3,883 metres down to Valtournenche at 1,524 metres is a 20 km long run according to this website: https://www.onthesnow.co.uk/news/a/107281/the-longest-ski-runs-in-the-alps
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Alastair Pink wrote:
From the top of Cervinia at 3,883 metres down to Valtournenche at 1,524 metres is a 20 km long run according to this website: https://www.onthesnow.co.uk/news/a/107281/the-longest-ski-runs-in-the-alps


Valtournenche like to market that. But it is a bit of a cheat to call it continuous. Just past Colle Superiore delle Cime Bianche you have to get on a short lift to take you up into the Valtournenche bowl. Still a nice run mind. In that resort you can ski continuously from the Klein Matterhorn (3883m) to Zermatt (1620m) or Breuil-Cervinia (2050m).
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achilles wrote:
Sarenne at Alpe D’Huez is 16km, with a drop of 1,470m.


Sarenne is under 10km with a drop of 1670 meters. That gives around 15 minutes skiing for the average punter.
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It’s not the length but what you do with it that counts! Toofy Grin
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The Parsenn in Davos down to Kublis is a reasonable descent, about 2000 m of vertical.
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I thought the biggest pisted vertical was to Zermatt from klein Matterhorn. Unpisted la Grave. Vertical drop easy to establish!

Longest pisted run? Not sure. Piste length is a bit tricky as I think that the resort figures might be a bit dodgy.
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It's the ski run down to the toilet you are having problems finding.
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Longest - cascades in Grand Massif ? 14km I think.


Its a fib, they measure as a skier actually skis ie. linked semi circles

Straight it is 9km
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Saas-Fee, the top T-Bar lifts are around 3550-3600, and the village is at 1800, so the drop is 1750-1800M
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@Gordyjh,
Exactly - Wide runs can also have their merit, as well as those with varied terrain that go up and down a lot, and those which allow themselves to be ridden backwards / switch.
Anything which provides prolonged excitement, is physically engaging, and that does not finish unexpectedly soon.
Although some long ones can be quite sloppy at the end like the ironically named "Grand Paradis", and although it's length is considerable (10KM) it goes very low, is pretty flat, it takes a lot of effort for the last few minutes and has its ending in a car park.
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Chamonix's Grands Montets drops from 3275m to 1252m - over 2000m. Lift served off piste: Aiguille du Midi to Chamonix, 3777m to 1012m - over 2700m, admittedly with a slight climb in the middle.
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Not sure about length-but Zermatt-3820 at top of Klein Matterhorn down to the town at 1620 most be the biggest vertical you can ski in one hit without needing a lift.
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JohnMo wrote:
Alastair Pink wrote:
From the top of Cervinia at 3,883 metres down to Valtournenche at 1,524 metres is a 20 km long run according to this website: https://www.onthesnow.co.uk/news/a/107281/the-longest-ski-runs-in-the-alps


Valtournenche like to market that. But it is a bit of a cheat to call it continuous. Just past Colle Superiore delle Cime Bianche you have to get on a short lift to take you up into the Valtournenche bowl. Still a nice run mind. In that resort you can ski continuously from the Klein Matterhorn (3883m) to Zermatt (1620m) or Breuil-Cervinia (2050m).


I seem to recall doing that when I was there, the piste map suggests there's a "high line" which one could take that goes "above" the lift and is continuous. I thought we had just messed up. Whichever way round is a fun blaster of a piste, I remember a series of rollers about half way down that were great fun.
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No idea how long this is but the top of Pic Blanc above Alpe d'Huez to L'Enversin d'Oz is 2200m drop and all on piste, with no link lifts, however the tunnel is stretching the term pisted! However it is superb if the snow is good, black at top and bottom with red and blue in the middle.
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What about the run from the top of the glacier in Sölden back down to village?

Not got the details to hand but have ‘some’ recollection of it being one of the longest in Austria.
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There is the Inferno race run down from the top of Murren to Lauterbrunnen. Strictly I suppose you would say that was two pistes, though.
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@Zorrac, ha ha, you're probably right there. At Easter, I reckon I did more than +16km on Cascades with all my turns etc but the kids just straightlined it. I got a bit jumpy at the hairpins at the bottom esp in the heavy sugar and they just flew over it all...grrrrr. If it is open this coming season might track the kids and me to see the difference.


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rogg wrote:
JohnMo wrote:
Alastair Pink wrote:
From the top of Cervinia at 3,883 metres down to Valtournenche at 1,524 metres is a 20 km long run according to this website: https://www.onthesnow.co.uk/news/a/107281/the-longest-ski-runs-in-the-alps


Valtournenche like to market that. But it is a bit of a cheat to call it continuous. Just past Colle Superiore delle Cime Bianche you have to get on a short lift to take you up into the Valtournenche bowl. Still a nice run mind. In that resort you can ski continuously from the Klein Matterhorn (3883m) to Zermatt (1620m) or Breuil-Cervinia (2050m).


I seem to recall doing that when I was there, the piste map suggests there's a "high line" which one could take that goes "above" the lift and is continuous. I thought we had just messed up. Whichever way round is a fun blaster of a piste, I remember a series of rollers about half way down that were great fun.


Very Happy Yes. The piste map is misleading. You are not the first person to be fooled by it. The piste that is shown is the one that goes down (only about 100m) from the top of the Valtournenche bowl to take you to the drag lift you use to get you over from Valtournenche to the Cervinia bowl. I agree with you though: notwithstanding that little lift ride up, blasting off the top of Klein Matterhorn and then ending up way down in Valtournenche is a great ride.
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Zell am Ziller in the Zillertal valley has now put in a black home run which opens up the top to bottom without a lift....2000m vertical from 2550m down to 550m in the valley
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Les Arcs? Aguille Rouge (3226m) down to Villaroger (1200m), 2026m vertical in a single run with no flat bits (that I can think of).
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What about the run from the top of the glacier in Sölden back down to village?

Not got the details to hand but have ‘some’ recollection of it being one of the longest in Austria.

My memory of this is that it is about 1700m.
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Yes Klein Matterhorn back to Zermatt is 10 miles and 7,424 feet of decent. Its all lift served, continuous and reliable from about January. Its a good challenge to do it without stopping Laughing
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Peter S wrote:
Yes Klein Matterhorn back to Zermatt is 10 miles and 7,424 feet of decent. Its all lift served, continuous and reliable from about January. Its a good challenge to do it without stopping Laughing


They usually have it open for the Christmas week. It would have to be disastrous snow for them not to get it open. all be it in a couple of years in this decade the last stretch into town was along artificial snow with brown fields either side!
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La Grave when it hasn't snowed in a while. Skier packed.
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The Marmolada in the Dolomites has a good long run down to Malga Ciapela\. Starts off as a really good red and finishes as an easy blue. 1815 m vertical.

But I enjoyed the run down to Valtournenche from the Plateau Rosa on the Cervinia side. Make sure you understand the options to return to Cervinia.
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Chamcham wrote:
Chamonix's Grands Montets drops from 3275m to 1252m - over 2000m. Lift served off piste: Aiguille du Midi to Chamonix, 3777m to 1012m - over 2700m, admittedly with a slight climb in the middle.


I was going to call GM to Argentierre too as I reckon that does count as a piste (not this season to come clearly) even if it can't often be accused of brutal grooming. I reckon the climb in the middle of AdM to Chx discounts that one though, so would have to suggest top of the Toule to Courmayeur, what's that, about 2500m?
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midgetbiker wrote:
Chamcham wrote:
Chamonix's Grands Montets drops from 3275m to 1252m - over 2000m. Lift served off piste: Aiguille du Midi to Chamonix, 3777m to 1012m - over 2700m, admittedly with a slight climb in the middle.


I was going to call GM to Argentierre too as I reckon that does count as a piste (not this season to come clearly) even if it can't often be accused of brutal grooming. I reckon the climb in the middle of AdM to Chx discounts that one though, so would have to suggest top of the Toule to Courmayeur, what's that, about 2500m?


Toule to Courmayuer is only 2.2km sorry.

AdM to Chx is possible without the climb, just via some more challenging routes.

Biggest skiable vert Mont Blanc to Le Fayet - 4810 to 580 = 4230m, theoretically there are greater verticals to be skied in Canada and Alaska (but not the Himalayas) but AFAIK the have never been skied in one go.
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@Idris, That sounds like fun. Do you have any links or videos of that?
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That's for another thread Shirley Laughing Laughing
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Idris wrote:


Biggest skiable vert Mont Blanc to Le Fayet - 4810 to 580 = 4230m, theoretically there are greater verticals to be skied in Canada and Alaska (but not the Himalayas) but AFAIK the have never been skied in one go.


I think only Logan (Canada) and Denali (Alaska) though - at least going by prominence on wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_highest_major_summits_of_Canada

This is also an interesting list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peaks_by_prominence#Prominence_table
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The Marmolada in the Dolomites has a good long run down to Malga Ciapela\. Starts off as a really good red and finishes as an easy blue. 1815 m vertical.

But I enjoyed the run down to Valtournenche from the Plateau Rosa on the Cervinia side. Make sure you understand the options to return to Cervinia.


Is there a shuttle bus that runs from Valtournenche to Cervinia?
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@enduroaid, from ski resort.info website

“Übergangsjoch in Zell am Ziller down to the base · Length 10 km · Elevation difference 1920 m”

Not bad for Austria.
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TQA wrote:
The Marmolada in the Dolomites has a good long run down to Malga Ciapela\. Starts off as a really good red and finishes as an easy blue. 1815 m vertical.

But I enjoyed the run down to Valtournenche from the Plateau Rosa on the Cervinia side. Make sure you understand the options to return to Cervinia.


Is there a shuttle bus that runs from Valtournenche to Cervinia?


Not sure it is a "shuttle bus". There is a bus but it just a normal bus and is not that frequent. I have never taken it myself (or taken a taxi). It is easiest just to get the lifts back up and then ski down to Cervinia.
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