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skiing weekends in March 2019

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I have looked back over the last few years as to when we have grabbed some long weekends, flying into GVA on a thursday eve and then flying back Monday late. It's often been around the last week of March. Maybe that's not such a good idea in 2019....
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I intend to be at my apartment when the UK leaves the EU.
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I am definitely not going to be in the UK
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@under a new name, ...where I don’t want to be is sitting in GVA with 50,000 fellow flyers banished from the EU, and unable to take flights because of a ‘crash out’ Brexit.
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@under a new name, ...where I don’t want to be is sitting in GVA with 50,000 fellow flyers banished from the EU, and unable to take flights because of a ‘crash out’ Brexit.


Good point - it's a sneaky way of possibly getting in some extra skiing

"Well we were supposed to be flying back yesterday but as you know Brexit means Brexit so I can't see me being back in the office for a week unless you've got a time machine and can fix June 2016"
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@Dave of the Marmottes, sounds like a plan!

@valais2, I suspect I'm opening a can of worms here
for the avoidance of doubt, I'm completely in the Bremain camp
... but why would Brexit affect Brits
assuming you are British
flying to the UK from Switzerland?
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I think it will affect flying anywhere, won't it (not just overflying places like France) all our flying arrangements will have to be renegotiated, given that we are currently part of EU arrangements, rather than bilateral ones. That might be rubbish, of course - I can't claim to have read much about it!!
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@Gämsbock, depends whether our agreement with Switzerland is direct or as part of the EU as @pam w, says.
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@Gämsbock, all UK aviation s currently regulated under EU rules.

Nothing will be able to fly in, out, around or over the UK.
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@under a new name, strangely, for something connected to Brexit and the EU, it’s all rather complex. See FT articles. Easyjet etc all busy setting up European-based subsidiaries. The problem is unravelling things which took a long time to set up, and will take time re getting alternative agreements in place. Er....which describes just about every aspect of Brexit.
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I've got £10 here that I'm willing to bet that won't be the case.
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valais2 wrote:
Easyjet etc all busy setting up European-based subsidiaries.


Easyjet is now an Austrian company with offices in the UK.
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There is a thread about this (probably in apres) if you can bear to trawl through it
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@adithorp, indeed...scare-mongering is rife. I’m still not flying on that day though, for work or pleasure.
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@valais2, problem being that anything UK related that’s currently regulated by EASA will not be regulated after midnight CET on the 29th. (And there is not the time to put anything else in place, even where it is legally possible).

So no UK registered, operated aircraft can fly, no UK licenced pilots, no airports, no ATC, and arguably no aircraft containing parts manufactured in the UK, or serviced in the UK.

Nothing. Not one little bit. Not even e.g. domestic only services like police helicopters, air ambulances, non-military search and rescue.

But don’t worry, it’ll all be fine...
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@Gämsbock, all UK aviation s currently regulated under EU rules.

Nothing will be able to fly in, out, around or over the UK.


Wow. I know Brexit is a shitstorm but...

adithorp wrote:
I've got £10 here that I'm willing to bet that won't be the case.


This!

holidayloverxx wrote:
There is a thread about this (probably in apres) if you can bear to trawl through it


Thanks. I don't think I'm quite bored enough. Yet... Toofy Grin

Thanks for the explanations.
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@Gämsbock, well, as things stand, that’s what has to happen.

Read and weep. https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/legislation/brexit-notice-to-stakeholders-air-transport.pdf

No deal? No flights.

End of story.

P.S. the UK was highly instrumental in writing the rules so it’s only fair, surely, that it plays by them?
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@under a new name, I'll be quite happy with no deal Happy
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@under a new name, I know the argument, I just say flights will fly in/out/around/over UK. My £10 should be easy money if you take the bet.
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@adithorp, while the rational side of me thinks “surely they wouldn’t let it get to that”.... that side has been caught out so often and badly in the last two years that I can easily see the worst economic catastrophe since WW2 happen to a developed nation.
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@valais2, problem being that anything UK related that’s currently regulated by EASA will not be regulated after midnight CET on the 29th. (And there is not the time to put anything else in place, even where it is legally possible).

So no UK registered, operated aircraft can fly, no UK licenced pilots, no airports, no ATC, and arguably no aircraft containing parts manufactured in the UK, or serviced in the UK.

Nothing. Not one little bit. Not even e.g. domestic only services like police helicopters, air ambulances, non-military search and rescue.

But don’t worry, it’ll all be fine...


How many of the world's airliners have Rolls-Royce engines?
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I can see all kinds of people up to all kinds of no good taking advantage of a post-Brexit situation in which full application of "the rools" will be impractical in the short term.
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@Rabbie, yep, many. All screwed.
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Could be busy on the Scottish slopes this Spring.

What leads you to think that we are a developed nation ? Sad
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Be careful what you wish for...or vote for!
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How many of the world's airliners have Rolls-Royce engines?

Surely those built before March 2019 were built in the EU under EU regs?
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@leggyblonde, I think you will find that there is a bit of maintenance between whenever engines were build and the present moment...

None of which, if performed in the Uk or by a UK regulated tech, will be valid...
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@under a new name, yeah I realise that but the implication was that all planes with RR engines would be grounded on Brexit day which I don't think would be the case
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@leggyblonde,

You are the CEO of an airline.

Your RR engines cease to be “in order” 23:59 CET 29.3.19

You insurers won’t insure you.

Do you operate or not?
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@under a new name, I don't understand why they are suddenly not "in order". Built in the EU, serviced in the EU up to that point. As long as the ongoing service plan allows for EU servicing, what changes?

Apologies for the thread drift, I realise our discussion has nothing to do with brits abroad with a british airline!
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@leggyblonde, because (we are oresuming “no deal” here) the mechanisms for regulating and certifying all of the operating elements of UK air traffic will cease to exist.

Legally, that means they effectively never existed.
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@under a new name, that's really interesting! I never would have thought that it means they never would have existed.
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