 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Saw a youtube test of the second one, they snapped as soon as the wheel turned. Or one similar.
It's true that the concept could do with a bit of innovation.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I read a few reviews on aliexpress etc on these and apparently great idea...but they break.
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@polc1410,
these people talk about 'approved' snowchains :
' https://snowchains.co.uk/questions-and-answers/ ' there's a phone number so you could easily ask them about necessary approvals.
The FAQ page has some useful info on it.
I have bought chains from them and they offer a buy back service if i need another size...
Before you order a hire care - in advance , ensure winter tyres and chains are included.
Everyone i met who hired a vehicle on the PBB and BB had winter tyres and chains included.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Orange200, @Sweedish, I actually bought a couple of sets of the funny orange zip ties. No idea if they are any good and I wouldn’t think of them as an alternative for real snowchains. But they are light, cheap and IMO not a bad thing to have in the boot in case you get caught out without the real McCoy. They seem pretty robust and the ratchet is easy enough to open/close by hand. I’ve seen the video of them snapping and I suspect that part of the secret is to get them really tight so that they cannot move across the surface of the tyre. Use pliers to tighten perhaps? Also, maybe deflate the tyre slightly, attach and then reinflate? But of a faff though.
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Don't use them on steel rims, the edges are too sharp and cut the zip ties under load..............
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Yes...agree with above...standby only. I bought a set and three broke within 5 miles. The cloth sock type are light and a lot better and wouldn't add a huge amount to luggage weight.
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Read a few reviews on Amazon.de, as others have said the cable ties are useless and break.
The top (yellow) ones look to perform OK. One person did report a breakage but it turned out he had the wrong size although I thought they were a universal size 
Doubt they are legal in Austria but the yellow ones with metal studs would probably be good for people who have all season tyres on ice.
Also talked about previously in this thread
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=134857
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@DB, But surely without CE certification putting these devices on your car on Europes roads would invalidate your insurance.
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| T_Hee wrote: |
| @DB, But surely without CE certification putting these devices on your car on Europes roads would invalidate your insurance. |
Some UK insurance companies say your insurance is invalid if you put winter tyres on esp if the size is different (which is often the case).
... but yes if they snapped and cut through a brake pipe causing a loss of brakes which led to an accident then IMHO the insurance company would have grounds not to pay out although this could also happen with chains.
I use certified high quality snow chains.
The above gadgets I see more as for getting the car out of trouble for a short distance at slow speeds (e.g. up a short driveway)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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A multi-size, reliable snow solution would be really popular for emergencies and for hire cars. Do they exist yet, other than the above?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Orange200 wrote: |
| A multi-size, reliable snow solution would be really popular for emergencies and for hire cars. Do they exist yet, other than the above? |
Spider Spikes? don't work as well as normal snow chains and are expensive.
https://www.snowchainstore.co.uk/brand/spikes-spider
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@DB,
I have used the spikes spyder compact for 5 years now. They have never let me down and are so much better than normal chains especially in terms of ease of use.
If I was stuck on the Lautaret at midnight and needed to put on a set of chains then spikes spyder every time.
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You know it makes sense.
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| howiet wrote: |
@DB,
I have used the spikes spyder compact for 5 years now. They have never let me down and are so much better than normal chains especially in terms of ease of use.
If I was stuck on the Lautaret at midnight and needed to put on a set of chains then spikes spyder every time. |
Like these?
http://www.99-04.azauto.hu/a2-web03-03/hopok/pokn.jpg
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Four hundred quid plus?!
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Poster: A snowHead
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We have Spikes Spider Easy for our BMW convertible and they are excellent. Not sure why DB thinks they aren't. They're far superior to conventional chains in my experience. The Easy Alpine are the version for larger SUVs etc. Ours cost £300 but their 2 advantages are (a) they fit a wider range of sizes (if I'd got them earlier I wouldn't now have three different sets of chains from previous cars) and (b) take a couple of minutes per wheel to fit. The ones in the link above are the previous generation of Spiders.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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In their full glory!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| LaForet wrote: |
| We have Spikes Spider Easy for our BMW convertible and they are excellent. Not sure why DB thinks they aren't. |
The German ADAC and Austrian ÖAMTC (AA equivalents) don't think they perform as well as chains.
The main reason is because the metal surface doesn't extend over the whole of the tyre esp. the tyre shoulder. This can be exactly what people who have very little tyre to wheel arch clearance want (e.g. sports cars).
On deeper compacted snow the chain will eat into the snow until it gets grip, even if it means 'sanding' off most of the compacted snow & ice. With the Spikes you can end up with a channel where the spikes bite in but the tyre spins on the unspiked areas either side of the spikes.
For people who often need to put on chains (e.g. living in the alps & daily comute with a short steep commute ascent/decent) the "ease of use" advantage could outweigh the performance on deeper compacted snow.
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I've never had this problem in deep snow.
They've worked perfectly each time.
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@DB,
Thanks for the link, I might buy the alpine set now.
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