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 Poster: A snowHead
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Daily walks on coatal paths, mountain biking, trail running and, of course, skiing. It suddenly dawned on me and my wife that we must be pretty dumb doing all this and neither of us know a thing about first aid!

Time to learn. Can anyone suggest where to go for a comprehensive course aimed at these sort of outdoor activities?
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http://www.sja.org.uk/sja/training-courses.aspx , perhaps?
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Or your local red cross can probably help.
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I'm looking for something more outdoor specific. Glenmore Lodge do something that looks good but it's a fair distance to travel. It might be the only option though.
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Search on Google for outdoor first aid. Loads of providers around, i did one with my wife in the Peak District and was well worth it.
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Try BASP. The nearest ones look to be at Gloucester.


Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Sat 17-02-18 12:09; edited 1 time in total
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There is now a regulated (ie with OFQUAL) Level 3 Outdoor First aid course around. This (in the jargon) encompasses the learning outcomes of the Emergency First Aid at Work (EFAW). There is also the long-standing (but non-regulated) REC (Rescue Emergency Care) which is widely used by outdoor instructors who require a 16-hour course to validate their qualifications. BASP of course run excellent courses as well.

I take SJA First Aid at Work (which I require to validate my First qual) from time-to-time, I find it a blast because all the attendee assume I see more first aid scenarios than they do but they actually are forever running each over with a forklift, spilling acid or having heart attacks after 30 fags & a fry-up every day.

Skills like CPR need refreshing on a yearly basis really.

You'd be better off with an outdoor course really though. You can get an idea of what's covered on my site: https://www.swissmountainleader.com/first-aid-training/outdoor-first-aid/

Well done for being proactive, it's a great thing. Tell me where you are based and I'll recommend someone.
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@ise, you're a star and good old Snowheads comes up trumps again. We live on the Gower Peninsula (South Wales).
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No contest, Alan Ward. One of best trainers in the business.

http://www.bigfootservices.co.uk/
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Or Katherine Wills in Llanberis, heart of Snowdonia.
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V good idea to do a course. However, in my experience it’s all too easy to forget 90% of it within a few days. I think there are probably quite a few good apps to help you remember the key stuff when the moment strikes. Not a substitute for a course, just a reinforcer.

Since a course I did, I now carry two aspirin in my wallet wherever I go. Not for headaches, but heart attacks!
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foxtrotzulu wrote:
However, in my experience it’s all too easy to forget 90% of it within a few days.

Instructors have to repeat the course every three years, you remember more of it each time.
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That's the minimum requirement. Industry guidelines are that a refresher is required every year. If someone is in a position where they might need to use first aid and they're aware of a skill fade that may fall short of what's expected of them.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Foxtrotzulu.
Hate to be negative about the aspirin but be very careful if you have that to someone else. Giving medicine has always been a massive no no on every course i have been on.
Only exception being helping someone take an inhaler, or using an epipen on someone
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
I think you've misunderstood. 300mg of chewable aspirin can be given to someone suffering a heart attack.

You're confusing that with section 214 of the medicines act which prevents a lay person administering prescription medicines.

In the case of aspirin, heart attack victims will be conscious and consenting. It's also not a prescription medicine.
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I did a first aid course for work with St John Ambulance. It was greta and a learnt a lot, but as said I'd really need a yearly refresher course as I can't remember half of it now (I do remember the CPR bit though).
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I'll also add that administering an epipen is covered by Schedule 19 of the Medicines Regulations 2012 which allows administering lifesaving medicines. That really applies to prescription medicines but there's ample support for giving aspirin.

I'm pretty sure no one delivering a first aid course would say you can't give aspirin to someone having a heart attack.
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HoneyBunny wrote:
I did a first aid course for work with St John Ambulance. It was greta and a learnt a lot, but as said I'd really need a yearly refresher course as I can't remember half of it now (I do remember the CPR bit though).


Is the refresh not free from SJA?
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I stand corrected. assist the patient to chew 300mg of aspirin
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I can reccomend_

For outdoor first aid with a bit of a snow-sports focus https://www.worldclasstraining.co.uk/

For a hiking, mountaineering focus https://www.will4adventure.com/
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There may well be better apps, but I have the British Red Cross app on my phone. It’s not bad, but seems a bit scant in some areas. Any other suggestions?
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ise wrote:

Is the refresh not free from SJA?


Don't know, it was through work!
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
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They'll send a voucher I think for a half day refresh of CPR as recommended by the resuscitation council and any update on guidelines. There's some work around outdoor first aid refreshes as well so they may become a thing over time.
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