Poster: A snowHead
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From another thread ... the advice is always to test skis, but what is the best way to do this? In resorts I rarely,if ever see test centres, and in a ski hire situation it is hard enough to get the skis you ask for, let alone a selection.
I have come to a conclusion that all mountain skis have moved on some in the last five years, and having hired a range of skis this year I have ascertained what I don’t want, mainly to do with weight, power and width.
So if I get to a short list of say three skis, what is the best way to try before I buy?
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@DavidYacht, It may depend on where you are skiing. Since i’ve had my own skis I haven’t paid that much attention to rental shops, but I used to see every shop with a range of test skis outside which you could try. Also when renting, if you select the top end packages, you can often change skis every day, to try something new.
If you are really lucky, one of the manufacturers will be holding a test session on the mountain, where you can swap skis without even taking your boots off.
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@DavidYacht, very much down to where you are going? And it may mean hiring from multiple shops.
Were limited in our ski tests of last year (although not to a meaningful degree) by the intention to buy from the brother in law's shop, as that would mean mates rates. And they specialise in high end more off than on piste kit. So while I didn't get to try the Nordica/Kastle/Crows equivalents, we had about 4 options to play with in the range we were interested in (Mantra replacements).
In Cham, you would be able to find almost anything that you might be looking for, not always from the same shop.
Smaller resorts, maybe not so much.
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@under a new name, I don’t think you an establish what you want to buy at Oktobertest, but you can certainly tell basic characteristics of skis and create a shortlist to try on the mountain. Plus you can discount ones that you really dislike.
There’s one pair of skis that I loved when skiing then inside (both years that I tried them) but don’t want to buy until I’ve given them a crack on a normal skiing day.
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Will probably look to do some testing in the 3V's next year; will try and find out who stocks what and see if any stock Blizzard/Atomic/Nordica or if anything else comes through that fits my criterea.
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DavidYacht wrote: |
From another thread ... the advice is always to test skis, but what is the best way to do this? In resorts I rarely,if ever see test centres, and in a ski hire situation it is hard enough to get the skis you ask for, let alone a selection. |
Have you have discovered the "try before you buy" mantra isn't as easy as it sounds in practicality.
DavidYacht wrote: |
I have come to a conclusion that all mountain skis have moved on some in the last five years |
Would agree. I was skiing on Rossignol Bandits for a number of years having moved on from skinnies. When my last pair died I hired some Cham 87's and then bought some Cham 97's. The waist/width of ski's you can get now that can still hold their own on piste is much greater.
For me when I hired the 87's the guy saw what I'd been skiing and I told him what I skied, how I skied, what my level was. And he picked out the 87's. They were great and so I looked to buy some. At which point my research turned up that 97's would be even better for what I wanted. I did once buy a pair of Movements off the cuff that I hated - so I figured I had the experience of getting something that was wrong. How right the 97's are is open to question. I think they are great and I don't have the opportunity or time to try lots of ski's.
DavidYacht wrote: |
So if I get to a short list of say three skis, what is the best way to try before I buy? |
Back to my first comment. It's not easy. You can try getting on them in resort.
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I have always just e-mailed the manufacturer or distributor directly and said I was interested buying such and such a model, and did they have any demo skis available that lined up with my holiday dates. Has worked for me. Although I wouldn't expect such a service from somebody like Head or Rossignol whose operations are clearly just too big to bother with those sorts of requests.
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@SnoodlesMcFlude, I don't even think you can do that. Mind you, the only time I have skied in a fridge, and EB had some test skis, I was on their rental boots. I wouldn't have been able to tell you whether I was on skis or water skis.
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I find it almost impossible to test skis (or at least the ones I want to test) in resort. There is one shop in resort, but prices are not at all competitive and stock is quite limited. Very occasionally I've been able to try skis at a manufacturer demo in resort, but again never on skis that I was actually considering.
So I just rely on reading many reviews and then try to work out what might work for me. As it happens most skis these days are really very good, so it's hard to go far wrong unless you really don't know what you want. I've only ever been disappointed once with a ski I've bought like this and even then it wasn't a total disaster. Just not quite what I'd expected from it and I'd taken a bit of a gamble anyway as there were very few reviews.
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@under a new name, having been to Oktobertest, and created a shortlist, I'm saying that you can do that
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You know it makes sense.
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@SnoodlesMcFlude, not on Braehead’s rental boots you can’t.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@uktrailmonster, where do you ski that has only one shop?
Or is it a secret?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@SnoodlesMcFlude, @under a new name, you would appear to have found a middle ground that cannot be settled until @admin launches a Scotoberfest
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Tubaski, why would I want to voyage from the Alps to Braehead to ski in crappy boots indoors?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@SnoodlesMcFlude, I can't. I thought I could, as there were some skis I liked when I tried them in the dome, and others that I didn't. For example, I tried a pair of Head Magnums at Hemel, and really didn't like them.
Then a few months later I accidentally ended up renting some in Andermatt. It took some persuading for me to even actually take them out because I already "knew" I didn't like them, but I did, whereupon I discovered that I loved them.
Like the OP, I find actually testing the models I want to test difficult. I have actually planned a trip to Chamonix in a couple of weeks partly because it's somewhere I can actually get to test skis.
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I enjoyed the Oktobertest, but the reality is it's pretty limiting. I hated anything over 110 ( no surprise in a dome) but when in proper powder the other week the Bent Chettlers at 117 or whatever were perfect. All the piste based skis skied well. I went back to free ski later on my dome skis which I'd recently serviced to 1,3 edge, they were as good as anything, ( a 5 year old pair of Salomon something or other)
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under a new name wrote: |
@uktrailmonster, where do you ski that has only one shop?
Or is it a secret? |
Big White, BC. Only 1 ski shop in the village. Obviously plenty of shops in downtown Kelowna, but that's a 2 hour round trip and they don't seem to have any presence on the hill (maybe not allowed to compete with the "official" resort shop). The only time I get to demo skis is when various manufacturers show up, which is not that often.
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@uktrailmonster, ah.
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